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Re: Federal Election

Postby Leaping Lindner » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:26 pm

redandblack wrote:I'm not surprised you're ignoring Tony's appearance on the 7.30 Report, southee.

A Prime Ministerial candidate who says he has no idea about his broadband policy. Lazy and not good enough.

He's going to visit Asian leaders after the election if he wins. He'll get there before his emails under his broadband plan.


If I was the Liberal Party spin doctors I would be tearing my hair out. That was the most incompetent perfomance I have seen from a party leader ever on the 7.30 report. He really appears clueless on so many things.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Squawk » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:35 pm

If only there was this much scrutiny of Rann and Redmond last March.

What's worse, is that the talent behind both of them gets very shallow, very quickly. That's both Rann and Redmond, and Gillard and Abbott.
Ironically, all the talk about university qualifications makes me smile. Kate Ellis loves to talk about her university studies, but she never finished anything. Tom Koutsantonis says in his Bio that he studied at Adelaide Uni but again, never finished anything. Being an ex-taxi driver now means he can be given the small business portfolio to add to his 'talents' in the Corrections portfolio. Abbott for all his failings is a Rhodes Scholar, would you believe.

I'm so disinterested in this campaign.

Neither leader wants to risk taking a risk. As someone said, why wont either party dare to fulfil dreams rather than offer a fun-run of fear?

If Gillard wins, Hockey will be next up to the plate in 2013. By then, Labor will be saying Hockey is inexperienced when Gillard right now has about 4 weeks of experience as PM.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby dedja » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:53 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
redandblack wrote:I'm not surprised you're ignoring Tony's appearance on the 7.30 Report, southee.

A Prime Ministerial candidate who says he has no idea about his broadband policy. Lazy and not good enough.

He's going to visit Asian leaders after the election if he wins. He'll get there before his emails under his broadband plan.


If I was the Liberal Party spin doctors I would be tearing my hair out. That was the most incompetent perfomance I have seen from a party leader ever on the 7.30 report. He really appears clueless on so many things.


LOL, and Kerry was going for the jugular ... :lol:
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Re: Federal Election

Postby southee » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:55 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:
southee wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:anyone watching Gillard on 7pm..?
she handles herself quite well i think.. just match abbots parental leave scheme already! ;)


Yes...a ROVE production and as we know ROVE loves the Labour party. ie. Rudd in 2007.


They've had Steve Price and Andrew Blot on as special commentators in the past , and have also interviewed Abbott. For the record what Rove knows about politics you could write on the back of a matchbox.


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Re: Federal Election

Postby Brucetiki » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:36 am

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Re: Federal Election

Postby Magpiespower » Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:51 am

Q&A was pretty soft the other night.

At times, Abbott looked like a deer caught in headlights on The 7.30 Report.

Little under two weeks to go, it could be that he has peaked. Though the first few weeks were more about the Labor train wreck than anything else.

Interesting to see how 60 Minutes rates on Sunday night.

And how much venom special guest journalist Biff Latham spits...
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:55 am

AFLflyer wrote:Have you got kids Psyber?
No, partly by accident, and partly by choice.
My first marriage broke up before we had children, but I was already reluctant to anyway.
That was partly based on principle explained below, and partly because I'd learned the Bipolar Disorder in her family was hereditary in nature.
I didn't marry for the second time until 9 years later, when I acquired a teenage step-daughter.

I also felt it was inappropriate to bring children into a world that was already over-populated and likely to die whimpering from resources depletion and pollution.
I still think that will be the end - that's why I don't want to pay for other people's instinctive and unthinking behaviour.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby AFLflyer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:20 pm

Psyber wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:Have you got kids Psyber?
No, partly by accident, and partly by choice.
My first marriage broke up before we had children, but I was already reluctant to anyway.
That was partly based on principle explained below, and partly because I'd learned the Bipolar Disorder in her family was hereditary in nature.
I didn't marry for the second time until 9 years later, when I acquired a teenage step-daughter.

I also felt it was inappropriate to bring children into a world that was already over-populated and likely to die whimpering from resources depletion and pollution.
I still think that will be the end - that's why I don't want to pay for other people's instinctive and unthinking behaviour.


What an interesting way to look at life. dont understand it. but each to their own.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby smac » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:52 pm

I love the use of the word acquired. You're right, it is an interesting take on life/family.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby AFLflyer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:55 pm

yeah - instinctive and unthinking behaviour it's not.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:44 pm

smac wrote:I love the use of the word acquired. You're right, it is an interesting take on life/family.
I used the term to imply the somewhat passive/indirect nature of the process for me.
The woman I wanted to marry in 1984 came with a 16 year old who was by then boarding at Seymour for complex family reasons.
She then moved into a Nurses Home while training, with some of her school friends, and never actually lived with us beyond occasional weekends.
We have a cordial but not close relationship as you would expect in those circumstances.
And, yes, I did think about it before I decided rather than rush in.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby mick » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:16 pm

I agree with Pysber on this issue to large extent. My marriage broke up when my daughter was two, she turned 21 this week :D the break up of marriage was so heart wrenching for me because of the negative effect it had on a small and blameless human being, I resoved at that point that my reproductive years were over and had a vasectomy, primarily so I wouldn't be talked into having more children or make a rash decision in the heat of the moment. I subsequently met another woman who had a career and did not desire children,we never married again and never will. We are still together after 19 years. My partner really gets annoyed when she hears of handouts to people who have chosen to have children when she made the choice not to, and never receives anything for the taxes she has paid, having had a child myself I'm a little more ambivalent even though there was little around in regards to parental leave or financial assistance when my daughter was born. Still I do not regret having a daughter, however I do not think I was well cut out to be a father or a husband. In an ideal altruistic world perhaps no one currently living in Australia should reproduce and perhaps children could be adopted from unpleasant places overseas to replace the population here.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:36 pm

Another triumph of dogma over reality in health policy from the ALP - the "Healthy Kids Checks".
It appears the parents don't see the need to bring the kids for them, and the GPs don't see the need for them, but they are going to become compulsory for welfare recipients to get their payments whether they need them or not. Perhaps it is aimed at finding a use for the Superclinics if enough of them exist in time to see the 50,000 kids.

http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/arti ... 06BA21.asp?
Labor to make kids’ checks mandatory 11-Aug-2010 By Michael East

HEALTHY Kids Checks - widely condemned by GPs as flawed - will become mandatory in order for low-to-middle income families to claim welfare payments, if Labor is re-elected at the election next week.
The new rules are reported to be part of a wider attempt by Labor to link welfare payments to behavioural change. Labor’s policy would begin on 1 July and would affect about 50,000 children a year.

Introduced in 2008, the checks have had a poor uptake. Only 16% of four-year-olds received the Healthy Kids Check during the program’s first year, resulting in an estimated Federal Government underspend of $5 million. The checks have also been routinely criticised by GPs for being poorly rebated.
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Re: Federal Election

Postby bulldogproud2 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:03 pm

Interesting that the Liberal Party are refusing to release the costings on over 20 of their policies to Treasury in case there is a leak!
I personally see this as just an excuse as their costings are either not prepared or prepared extremely poorly.
However, if there has been a leak re their costings, it is just as likely to have come from within their own party as within Treasury.
They sure seemed happy enough about leaks on the other side! ;)
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Gozu » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:09 pm

Not a good look when Abbott's numbers are about $7 Billion less than Sloppy Joe's. Speaking of credibility it seems Tony Abbott is trying to back out of that auction Get Up won that would've seen him give someone a surfing lesson (they chose a boat person).

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Re: Federal Election

Postby mick » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:57 am

I had a play with the Vote-A-Matic feature, http://www.news.com.au/features/federal-election which asks a series of 15-16 questions and tells you which party most strongly agrees with your answers mine came up with the GREENS!!?? WTF :?
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Leaping Lindner » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:01 am

mick wrote:I had a play with the Vote-A-Matic feature, http://www.news.com.au/features/federal-election which asks a series of 15-16 questions and tells you which party most strongly agrees with your answers mine came up with the GREENS!!?? WTF :?


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Re: Federal Election

Postby Brucetiki » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:04 am

mick wrote:I had a play with the Vote-A-Matic feature, http://www.news.com.au/features/federal-election which asks a series of 15-16 questions and tells you which party most strongly agrees with your answers mine came up with the GREENS!!?? WTF :?


I got Donkey Vote :D
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Re: Federal Election

Postby Brucetiki » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:13 am

There's also this one http://www.news.com.au/features/federal ... 5888957047 - What's Your Politics.

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Re: Federal Election

Postby bulldogproud2 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:01 pm

You saint!
I ended up with Nelson Mandela (92%).
Apparently I match more to Gillard (69%) than Abbott (61%).
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