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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby The Ash Man » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:29 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Sploosh wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
We have naked ADSL and a home phone via Internode. Good part of it is you can choose your own phone number (within a range of numbers). Not having to pay $50 or $60 bucks for a line into the house is the best thing we ever did.


THis sounds interesting, because we are currently with internode and I like their service. If the phone line currently stops on the outside wall though, would internode be able to take it from there or would I still need to get telstra to set something up initially?

And yes, people calling us is something I need to consider too.


Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode. I was on the 25g $59.95 a month and decided to go naked. The costs are about $270 to set up but then that's only 3 or 4 Telstra bills. The plan I'm on is now 25g $69.95 with $10 free calls.

The ONLY problems we have now is that I can't use the box office facility on Foxtel and can't "vote" on one of those stupid voting things. Oh, also I can't use the Foxtel guide on line and record programs remotely. Small inconvenience for them not charging me $50 or $60 a bill for nothing.

I've read on here that you can use some alternate phone service for naked and it's like 1c per call or something. I haven't investigated it because we're not using the $10 worth of calls anyway.


I also have Fox and no phone line
I get 2 free Box Office movies per month
I was told I can ring up to order them and dont need the phone line, havent tried it though
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby White Line Fever » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:09 pm

The Ash Man wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Sploosh wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
We have naked ADSL and a home phone via Internode. Good part of it is you can choose your own phone number (within a range of numbers). Not having to pay $50 or $60 bucks for a line into the house is the best thing we ever did.


THis sounds interesting, because we are currently with internode and I like their service. If the phone line currently stops on the outside wall though, would internode be able to take it from there or would I still need to get telstra to set something up initially?

And yes, people calling us is something I need to consider too.


Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode. I was on the 25g $59.95 a month and decided to go naked. The costs are about $270 to set up but then that's only 3 or 4 Telstra bills. The plan I'm on is now 25g $69.95 with $10 free calls.

The ONLY problems we have now is that I can't use the box office facility on Foxtel and can't "vote" on one of those stupid voting things. Oh, also I can't use the Foxtel guide on line and record programs remotely. Small inconvenience for them not charging me $50 or $60 a bill for nothing.

I've read on here that you can use some alternate phone service for naked and it's like 1c per call or something. I haven't investigated it because we're not using the $10 worth of calls anyway.


I also have Fox and no phone line
I get 2 free Box Office movies per month
I was told I can ring up to order them and dont need the phone line, havent tried it though


I've done it and it definately works.
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Kahuna » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:43 pm

gadj1976 wrote:Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode.


gadj you CAN'T get rid of the line completely. Telstra still own the copper pair to your house and a service IS being provided over that pair. Only thing is you are not Telstra's customer in this case. Internode is now the customer and pay Telstra the rental on the pair. Google "Unbundled Local Loop"
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby fish » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:30 pm

I'd be a bit worried about the health risks of using a mobile for long conversations, so would definitely get some sort of hands free unit.
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby dedja » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:34 pm

Kahuna wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode.


gadj you CAN'T get rid of the line completely. Telstra still own the copper pair to your house and a service IS being provided over that pair. Only thing is you are not Telstra's customer in this case. Internode is now the customer and pay Telstra the rental on the pair. Google "Unbundled Local Loop"
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Lunchcutter » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:00 am

I use VOIP through http://www.engin.com.au .. uses the foxtel cable and plugs into the wireless router ( I think thats how it works - my late DH set it up for me).. have had it for 5 years now and my biggest bill has been 20 bucks for the month... the line can be a bit dodgy sometimes but perfect for those long calls to AGL, Telstra the bank etc and keeps the rellies happy too, specially the ones on the pension..
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:54 pm

Brucetiki wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:Got Telstra to install a broadband cable maybe 5 years ago.

Dropped the home phone about 2 years after.

Only have Telstra Broadband line that I pay for and a Vodafone mobile that work picks the tab up on.

Works well for me.


As I'm in a cable area, I did consider cable broadband. However, it costs $40 for 2GB (http://go.bigpond.com/broadband/9-plan/), whereas 3's wireless is $29 for 2GB or $39 for 6GB.


$59 for 10gig/month.

This plan can't be bought now... ;)

I must be locked in somehow...? :shock:
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Kahuna » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:14 pm

Dog_ger wrote:
$59 for 10gig/month.

This plan can't be bought now... ;)

I must be locked in somehow...? :shock:



Think you need to have a look here Dog_ger-- http://go.bigpond.com/broadband/
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:25 pm

dedja wrote:
Kahuna wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode.


gadj you CAN'T get rid of the line completely. Telstra still own the copper pair to your house and a service IS being provided over that pair. Only thing is you are not Telstra's customer in this case. Internode is now the customer and pay Telstra the rental on the pair. Google "Unbundled Local Loop"
Cheers


Don't be silly Kahuna, didn't you know electrons can jump from the roadside to your house without any means? #-o


yes yes "phone" line.....
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:26 pm

The Ash Man wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Sploosh wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
We have naked ADSL and a home phone via Internode. Good part of it is you can choose your own phone number (within a range of numbers). Not having to pay $50 or $60 bucks for a line into the house is the best thing we ever did.


THis sounds interesting, because we are currently with internode and I like their service. If the phone line currently stops on the outside wall though, would internode be able to take it from there or would I still need to get telstra to set something up initially?

And yes, people calling us is something I need to consider too.


Sploosh, nup, you can get rid of the line completely. Telstra will do that for you (and hence they can't say they are providing you a line, and hence can't charge the landline rental fee) as part of the installation with Internode. I was on the 25g $59.95 a month and decided to go naked. The costs are about $270 to set up but then that's only 3 or 4 Telstra bills. The plan I'm on is now 25g $69.95 with $10 free calls.

The ONLY problems we have now is that I can't use the box office facility on Foxtel and can't "vote" on one of those stupid voting things. Oh, also I can't use the Foxtel guide on line and record programs remotely. Small inconvenience for them not charging me $50 or $60 a bill for nothing.

I've read on here that you can use some alternate phone service for naked and it's like 1c per call or something. I haven't investigated it because we're not using the $10 worth of calls anyway.


I also have Fox and no phone line
I get 2 free Box Office movies per month
I was told I can ring up to order them and dont need the phone line, havent tried it though


cable or satellite?
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:53 pm

Kahuna wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:
$59 for 10gig/month.

This plan can't be bought now... ;)

I must be locked in somehow...? :shock:



Think you need to have a look here Dog_ger-- http://go.bigpond.com/broadband/


Hmmmmm.... :shock:

Looks good Kahuna....

I will follow this up and get back to you my friend..... :lol:
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby fisho mcspaz » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:01 pm

We've got two phone numbers because our internet exchange is lame. :( We used to have a naked connection with Adam but when we moved we could only get ADSL2 or something (I get confused with all these different internet whatsits), so we had to rent the line from Telstra but we kept our internet phone account too. So we don't use the Telstra account but we run the Adam one off the Telstra line. Fortunately Mr McSpaz works at Adam so we get a massive discount.
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Dog_ger » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:02 pm

Kahuna wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:
$59 for 10gig/month.

This plan can't be bought now... ;)

I must be locked in somehow...? :shock:



Think you need to have a look here Dog_ger-- http://go.bigpond.com/broadband/


$49.95/mth

@ 24 month plan

For customers with BigPond Multiple Product Benefit

Min. cost $2397.60
+ $9.95 delivery fee

24 x Dog_ger $59.95 = $1438.8

Doesn't come close Kahuna my friend.... ;)

Comment Kahuna.... ;)
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Kahuna » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:49 am

Dog_ger wrote:$49.95/mth

@ 24 month plan

For customers with BigPond Multiple Product Benefit

Min. cost $2397.60
+ $9.95 delivery fee

24 x Dog_ger $59.95 = $1438.8

Doesn't come close Kahuna my friend.... ;)

Comment Kahuna.... ;)



24 X $49.95= $1198.80.
This is for the Internet component only.
Multiple Product Benefit (which gets you the $20/month discount) means you must have a full service phone with Telstra and one additional service eg a mobile.
$2397.60 - $1198.80 = $1198.80.
$1198.80 is what they have calculated you will pay for the minimum qualifying products,HomeLine Plus and a $20/month post paid mobile.
Assuming you have a landline and a mobile with Telstra what is wrong with the offer? Your current internet cost leaves you $959 for land line & mobileas opposed to $1198.80.
You will also get 5 times your current download limit.
Up to you :)
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Dog_ger » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:11 am

Thanks Kahuna.

I'll look into it. :D
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Kahuna » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:20 am

One other thing Dog_ger,the current plan you are on is ancient history so you must be out of contract with Telstra.This is important as it give you a negotiating edge. Ring Disconnections on 137663 and tell them you want to disconnect because your plan is poor value. At the very least they will upgrade you to a more generous plan. Depends on your negotiating skills what you get,they will not want to lose your business so don't accept the first thing they offer.It is a game of brinkmanship,18 months or so ago I was on the 12 gig plan and well out of contract,rang up and ended up with 25 gig and a speed increase for no extra cost and no contract. They did tell me it was only a 6 month deal but when the time was up I rang again,they refunded (credited) the extra I had paid since my deal expired and away it went again. I have since signed up for the $49.95 50 gig deal,Bigpond Cable Elite and am happy with what I have.

Disclaimer: I am a Telstra employee,if you think that clouds my judgement,so be it but I don't see why you can't do better for your money,whether with Telstra or another company.
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby dedja » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:25 am

Kahuna wrote: Ring Disconnections on 137663 and tell them you want to disconnect because your plan is poor value.


LOL, so very true ... for everyone currrently on a Tel$tra plan.
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Re: choose no home phone line?

Postby Kahuna » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:28 am

dedja wrote:
Kahuna wrote: Ring Disconnections on 137663 and tell them you want to disconnect because your plan is poor value.


LOL, so very true ... for everyone currrently on a Tel$tra plan.


LOL,so very helpful
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