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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Swooper16 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:03 pm

Unfortunately the biggest obstacle for Adelaide clubs gaining big name players is that they would have to move to Adelaide. So like we saw with Campbell Brown last off season getting a recognised interstate player to relocate is almost impossible.

Best bet is to target ex South Aussies to return home but more and more are indicating they would rather remain interstate eg Pavlich, Cooney, Waters etc.

So unfortunately landing a big fish via the trade market is virtually impossible for the SA clubs.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:05 pm

This means that the SANFL with a 113 year history was gutted just to stop the Vics from poaching our players for a mere two decades.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. YOU'VE BEEN HAD.

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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:17 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Baron Greenback wrote:I'd like to see Brisbane trade Sherman, Buchanan, Hawksley, Johnstone, Selwood and Stiller.
All useless.


No, your mob trades in useless players. 8)

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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Baron Greenback » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:19 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Baron Greenback wrote:I'd like to see Brisbane trade Sherman, Buchanan, Hawksley, Johnstone, Selwood and Stiller.
All useless.


I don't reckon they'd get much for Buchanan mate, Selwood could hold some small interest, probably a toaster for Stiller .. Sherman could probably interest someone, as would Johnstone because he does carry and AFL clubs crave that, despite the clangers he can throw up.


I reckon you're on the money there.
Sherman could get picked up by a Port Adelaide/Sydney/West Coast/Essendon type side looking to bolster their list.
Johnstone is terrible, but that number 1 draft pick tag raises his profile a lot. Even though he doesn't deserve it.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:20 pm

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Gingernuts wrote:To secure a 200 game midfielder you need to put something serious on the table. Chris Knights would not command anywhere near enough.

I would be offering Nathan Bock personally. Graham Johncock would be another one. I rate them as players and would hate to see them go, but you need to be fair dinkum if you want to secure a decent trade.


no way for johncock, so important with goodwin gone !


I agree, Johncock should win the crows B&F IMO - Must Stay


How can Johncock possibly win the B&F with all the games he has missed?

For my $0.02 worth, anyone who has a club imposed suspension on them should not win it anyway.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Texas Rattlesnake » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:36 pm

The crows should target Sam Butler from West Coast... finds alot of the ball and uses it very very well! Thoughts?
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby JK » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:53 pm

Baron Greenback wrote:Sherman could get picked up by a Port Adelaide/Sydney/West Coast/Essendon type side looking to bolster their list.


Could even be the type Adelaide would look at if available, they seem to lack leg speed at times.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Gingernuts » Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:24 pm

Van Berlo and/or Griffin for Dean Cox could be a good one.

When Dean Cox is up and running he's as good as having another midfielder. My only problem is that he's 29 and fairly injury prone of late which introduces a fair element of risk. This could also drop his price though.

Dean Cox at his best with Maric as a back up would be a handy ruck combo.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:13 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:I'd like to see the cats trade blake for a Ruckman ....who can get more than one possession. Eg mumford

Geelong made a huge mistake in trading Mumford IMO. He's been fantastic for Sydney so far this year.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby scottroo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:39 pm

As a North Melbourne fan Chris Knights could be the link we are well and truly missing, a player who can kick 50 plus metre goals and carry the ball.

two trades id consider

Hamish Mcintosh for Chris Knights

Lindsay Thomas and our 2nd round pick for Chris Knights
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Media Park » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:21 pm

Lindsay to come home?

I honestly don't think we need anyone at the Cattery, but if Gaj goes, then we'd get what for him???

Crowies don't need a forward line player IMO, with Tippet/Tex, and Porps if fit and firing, they'd get enough goals...

Truck/Stiffy/Stevens/Davis for a solid back line.

VB, Thompson, Vince, Douglas, are not the blue-chippers of the comp- Something they want Danger to become...

What they really lack is a dominant ruckman, but I don't see who's going to make the move South, and don the tri-colours, who's good enough to make a difference...

Power where to start? Motlop/Ebert/Schulz can all play, no doubt, but they are sporadic, and have too many days of doing not enough.

Boak/Cassisi/Gray/Thomas are the core midfield- Boak and Gray have the ability to become elite, but not yet, and probably not next year... Leaves a lot of pressure on Kane, who McDermott said at the start of the year would struggle to make the side :roll:

Brogan carries the ruck, and I can't see the Hoff being the regular #2- he's gotta be FF/CHF when he plays...

Carlisle is the only real back of note, and that is probably the biggest area they lack, unless the Chad returns fit, and plays CHB.

Too many passengers, but I hope that they get something for Krakeour, who for me is the guy who's going GC...
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby scottroo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:45 pm

Media Park wrote:Lindsay to come home?

I honestly don't think we need anyone at the Cattery, but if Gaj goes, then we'd get what for him???

Crowies don't need a forward line player IMO, with Tippet/Tex, and Porps if fit and firing, they'd get enough goals...

Truck/Stiffy/Stevens/Davis for a solid back line.

VB, Thompson, Vince, Douglas, are not the blue-chippers of the comp- Something they want Danger to become...

What they really lack is a dominant ruckman, but I don't see who's going to make the move South, and don the tri-colours, who's good enough to make a difference...

Power where to start? Motlop/Ebert/Schulz can all play, no doubt, but they are sporadic, and have too many days of doing not enough.

Boak/Cassisi/Gray/Thomas are the core midfield- Boak and Gray have the ability to become elite, but not yet, and probably not next year... Leaves a lot of pressure on Kane, who McDermott said at the start of the year would struggle to make the side :roll:

Brogan carries the ruck, and I can't see the Hoff being the regular #2- he's gotta be FF/CHF when he plays...

Carlisle is the only real back of note, and that is probably the biggest area they lack, unless the Chad returns fit, and plays CHB.

Too many passengers, but I hope that they get something for Krakeour, who for me is the guy who's going GC...


Chaplin has had a career best year imo, been pretty good this year, with Carlisle and Chaplin port have a defence to start building a premiership around, what they lack is pacey/skillful outside running backs, look at the best teams, geelong has mackie, enright hunt who all run and use the ball well! saints have gram, ray, fisher, gwilt, goddard, gilbert. The dogs have gilbee, hargrave, griffen who rack up touches on half back.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby scottroo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:48 pm

Port also have blokes who I just cant see are good enough to win a premiership, theres not many players (besides 2nd ruckman) who you can honestly say dont have the skill to win a flag. Logan, M Thomas, Davenport, etc etc will not be in the team when port wins its next flag.

The roos had the same problem, we had blokes like power, leigh brown, watt etc who we were never gunna win a flag with in the team. Keep drafting youngsters, the roos look like there building a decent side and not one player isnt north melbourne bred
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Media Park » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:54 pm

I rate the Roos, and it's disappointed me that they aren't higher up in premiership contention.

Thomas/Campbell/Edwards are quality "secondary" forward- capable of killing opposition on their day, and still very young...

For mine they need a "key" forward, strong marking, long accurate kicking, and they'd be right up there.

Rate their mids/ruck/backs, and there's only a handful of players that wont be around in 2-3 years...

Get a key forward next year, and with the continual improvement of the young brigade, and they could go all the way within 2 years.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby scottroo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:13 pm

after the hay debarcle im happy not to trade, we have a couple of highly rated kids coming through who play key forward, throw petrie in fully fit he will kick 60 goals, and hansen is starting to become a star. aaron black and nathan okeefe will be the next two forwards at arden street. however i rate sam wright as our next big thing
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Hondo » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:02 pm

I think Maric has had a good year and Griffin is showing a bit now and with some young talls in reserve I don't feel we are screaming out for another ruckman

a quality midfielder would be nice but as others have said enticing any decent players over here is very difficult. I think Port and the Crows have to try to find those players needing a new club to bring about their best form - ie, Barlow.

I wouldn't go for Cox at age 29 and I don't think he would come over anyway. A recent article said he was looking at becoming NicNat's understudy in time which says to me he sees the sun setting on his career. We need a young hungry buck who wants to still be the number 1 ruckman.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Booney » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:03 am

Media Park wrote:Power where to start? Motlop/Ebert/Schulz can all play, no doubt, but they are sporadic, and have too many days of doing not enough.

Boak/Cassisi/Gray/Thomas are the core midfield- Boak and Gray have the ability to become elite, but not yet, and probably not next year... Leaves a lot of pressure on Kane, who McDermott said at the start of the year would struggle to make the side :roll:

Brogan carries the ruck, and I can't see the Hoff being the regular #2- he's gotta be FF/CHF when he plays...

Carlisle is the only real back of note, and that is probably the biggest area they lack, unless the Chad returns fit, and plays CHB.

Too many passengers, but I hope that they get something for Krakeour, who for me is the guy who's going GC...


Ok then. Ebert as a small man all too often found himself as the at home forward with the style we played in recent weeks changing he is now again the small forward playing at the feet of Schulz and Westhoff, this suiots him much more. Even though he played almost as a marking forward against Adelaide ( beating Stevens hands down in the air and on the ground ) he relishes being the smaller forward / second/third target and the best of him I think is yet to come. Schulz also is benefiting from the more direct style and can be, IMO, a 70-80 goal forward. Motlop, for those who only see him on the TV to be critical is poor IMO and although he does have some negatives about his game, those who see him regularly live at the ground know how hard he works off the ball. All too often his highlights package shows the bad stuff he does ( body language etc ) but rarely highlights the way he chases to the wing and centre of the ground. When he does this he doesn't work back hard enough, perhaps a sign of fitness not endeavour. These four with Gray as the bit player gives us a solid forward half nucleus.Daniel Stewart shows promise,but as always big men take time to mature. Stewart and Trengove both need to stand tall in the forward half and the ruck in the next 18 months to show they can fill the void when Brogan leaves.

Boak, Gray, Pearce, Cassisi, Salopek and Thomas are enough to build a mid-field around with Harlett ( body willing ) and Broadbent to play a role from time to time.

You didn't mention Chaplin when talking about our back half, why not? He is our back-half general and I think the teaming of him and Carlile will serve us well for years to come. Salter is proving to be a valuable backman since being recast and along with Krakouer, Hartlett,Broadbent and Logan build a back six pretty well.
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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:37 am

The Dark Knight wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:I'd like to see the cats trade blake for a Ruckman ....who can get more than one possession. Eg mumford

Geelong made a huge mistake in trading Mumford IMO. He's been fantastic for Sydney so far this year.


Geelong couldn't afford to match Sydney's offer Knighty. The salary cap at work.

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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby Mr Beefy » Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:46 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:I'd like to see the cats trade blake for a Ruckman ....who can get more than one possession. Eg mumford

Geelong made a huge mistake in trading Mumford IMO. He's been fantastic for Sydney so far this year.


Geelong couldn't afford to match Sydney's offer Knighty. The salary cap at work.

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Re: Trades for 2011 Season

Postby nuggety goodness » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:30 am

well my Bullies are comin good at the right time of the year and if not in the next couple then i think we may miss our window. i think it will be lucky to be open after 2011 but i'd love to be wrong...

trade wise i reckon we'll lose Harbrow to GC and he is an absolute superstar out of a back pocket. runs and carries and takes on opposition so replacing him will be difficult.

our forward line is pretty old. with Acker gone, Johno may have 1 more year left we will be down two gun FP/HFF, although there are a couple of good young blokes (Hill, Stack) developing we are lacking some nouse and experience in front of the sticks. although we have Murph, Higgins and Gia there still

our mids are still relatively young. led by Boyd, Cross, Cooney, Griffin and with Picken as a tagger and Moles looking the goods, plus Callan Ward we have a good mix and a few years left in their legs

our backs in Lake and Morris are two of the best in the comp and Gilbee and Hargreave and more than capable

Hahn is on his last legs so Minno NEEDS to be our CHF and have young Rough as Huddos back up, hopefully Ayce can get some game time next year so when Huddos time is up he and Rough can shoulder the load...

Tim Callan or Easton Wood could be used as trade bait, maybe Dylan Addison. Everitt may want to go after only playing a handful of games for the year, also Stephen Tiller. dunno what we would get, probably have to package a couple together to get anyone of substance

i think a run and carry type to replace Harbrow and an experienced FP to replace Acker would be the go although we do have adequate players on our list to be up there again in 2011...
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