Concerning Trend? The Woodville Oval Incident 3/7

[FlyingHigh]

Let it be clear however, that it is also the position of the WWTFC that the reactions of others involved in the incident were totally disproportionate to anything that had gone on previously and ultimately grossly inappropriate. There is no excuse for engaging in violence and we will continue to work with the SANFL to identify those involved.

This comes across as unprofessional and sniping IMO. The only position of WWT is to deal with its people and it has done that and that's all that that release should address. Having a swipe at the opposition is unnecessary, it's up the SFC to talk to the people in charge of the cheer squad and hope they continue in their efforts to weed out the idiots.

Rubbish. "Others (than Treeby) involved in the incident" include EAGLES AND STURT supporters.

However, FWIW, I think Treeby has got off lightly and would have thought 4-6 games plus perhaps some sort of counselling may have been appropriate.

[MightyEagles]

the media release should have mentioned that Woodville Oval would no longer be a fortress

but seriously hard to know if it is a just punishment or not as dont know the full facts.

I believe that it is still Fortress Woodville. Well it still is according to the fans.

[Barto]

"they did it too" is unbecoming of someone in a CEO position. Address what is in your control and leave it.

Hypothetically, someone, comes to your work place, taunts you and or physically attacks you, you react in some way. Your boss/ceo should punish you but not pursue the other party. I think not.

No, the police pursue the other party, not the CEO.

Using your example, you're actually the one taunting someone who comes into your workplace, they respond by hitting you. You are punished by the boss for taunting customers, the boss calls the police and hands over the evidence of the physical assault. Done.

The comment:

Let it be clear however, that it is also the position of the WWTFC that the reactions of others involved in the incident were totally disproportionate to anything that had gone on previously and ultimately grossly inappropriate.

It goes without saying, it's not necessary. Every reasonable person knows belting someone for mouthing off is disproportionate, but it happens in society and there are ways of dealing with it. It comes across as long winded and whiny IMO. We can agree to disagree.

I would have just said "The WWT will co-operate with any further investigation of the incident by the SA Police, the SANFL or the SFC" and leave it at that.

[Barto]

Rubbish.

Stopped reading there. If you want to debate with someone, address the point first, then abuse.

[MightyEagles]

IMO the family Friendly area should be to the South of the Grandstand in the SW pocket, much more room there esp if there is a reasonable crowd

From memory that's where I thought it was ?

Yes it was down at the southwest pocket, the reason for the move I do not know, I think that it should be moved back.

[Barto]

If someone spills petrol everywhere and another person sees it and walks around with a lit match, who do you blame the result on?

I think the answer is always going to be clouded by whoever you're mates with, the person with the petrol or the one with the match.

There's idiots everywhere and you've got to hope like hell they don't do it again. I have a love/hate thing with the SCS. Some of those blokes I've been personal friends with for over 20 years, others I cant stand the sight of and I want to facepalm when they open their mouths, some are perfect examples of nuff-nuffs.

I just get tired on the constant attacks on Sturt supporters in general. My 70 year old mother goes along to games and I doubt she's out there throwing haymakers in the outer. I'm sure Centrals supporters are tired of the generalisations as well, for every person who lit a flare at the grand final, there would've been another 10000 Centrals fans who didn't.

Although it's hard to legislate against stupidity, idiots are like weeds, pull one out and another will just take its place in time. Voice has done an excellent job cleaning up the squad. I hope he continues to work at it but it'll never be 100% perfect, just better than it was before.

The SANFL is pretty clean crowd wise these days, it's just a shame that an isolated incident has gotten so much negative press about another wise excellent football competition.

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Not an accurate thread title IMO.

[Dutchy]

the media release should have mentioned that Woodville Oval would no longer be a fortress

but seriously hard to know if it is a just punishment or not as dont know the full facts.

I believe that it is still Fortress Woodville. Well it still is according to the fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVEMIYZ9kvQ

[Dutchy]

IMO the family Friendly area should be to the South of the Grandstand in the SW pocket, much more room there esp if there is a reasonable crowd

From memory that's where I thought it was ?

Yes it was down at the southwest pocket, the reason for the move I do not know, I think that it should be moved back.

last year it was in the North West Pocket in front of the Cricket Club, must have changed it

[areaman]

IMO the family Friendly area should be to the South of the Grandstand in the SW pocket, much more room there esp if there is a reasonable crowd

From memory that's where I thought it was ?

Yes it was down at the southwest pocket, the reason for the move I do not know, I think that it should be moved back.

last year it was in the North West Pocket in front of the Cricket Club, must have changed it

Has been in front of the cricket club in 2009 and 2010, before that was in the SW pocket region.

I can understand why it was moved to that location but slightly dissapointing for those who previously liked to stand in that area and have a quiet beer or two

[Big Phil]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 5889523233

[MagareyLegend]

It was a good game but nobody noticed - not the spectators, not the reserves players in the crowd, not the SANFL, not the past players in the tent, not the police, not the Weslo security, not the media nor the photographers.

All the interest and post game analysis was on the fight - perhpas there should be more of it

[bayman]

stephen rowe said on 5AA tonight that at the recent glenelg v sturt match he was subjected to some abuse etc....i can see the common denominator, can you ?

[MagareyLegend]

Yes - Snouts Louts should not treat one of their assistant coaches in such a manner. The SANFL must hold an enquiry.

[arthur5038]

Don't move the kids becuase people in the opposite pocket cant keep their mouths or fists under control.

[bayman]

surely the 'your tribe is calling' campaign hasn't affected them to this ?

[CK]

Courtesy of the SANFL:

Thursday, July 8, 2010

STATEMENT ON SANFL INVESTIGATION

Darren Chandler – Chief Officer, Football & Corporate Operations

The SANFL wishes to announce the findings of its investigation into an off-field incident last Saturday.

The League has a responsibility to ensure all matches hosted at local grounds continue to provide the public with good, family-friendly entertainment.

The type of behaviour witnessed on Saturday was far removed from the atmosphere considered the norm at SANFL matches.

The League takes its responsibility very seriously and in turn, relies on our football supporters to act in a responsible manner as well.

The vast majority do so on a weekly basis.

The SANFL’s investigation involved meetings with the Woodville-West Torrens Football Club (including player Leigh Treeby) and the Sturt Football Club (including the leader of the Sturt cheer squad) and discussions with Weslo security.

All parties provided the SANFL with detailed reports of the events, which have been considered by the League.

We wish to thank the clubs, Weslo and the police for their full cooperation with this investigation.

The investigation concluded the following:

The behaviour of Woodville-West Torrens player Leigh Treeby contributed to the incident.

The behaviour of some members of the Sturt cheer squad contributed to the incident and its escalation

On the day, SA Police removed two individuals from the ground following the incident. There were no reported injuries or charges laid.

Other football supporters became involved after the initial altercation.

Woodville-West Torrens Football Club earlier today announced it has fined Treeby the maximum $500 penalty under SANFL regulations and has made him unavailable for selection for one League match.

The SANFL has viewed this action as appropriate and will not impose any further penalties on Leigh.

The Sturt Football Club is committed to working with the Sturt cheer squad to improve its behaviour.

Under direction from the SANFL, Weslo will now have a one-on-one relationship with every club’s official cheer squad. Security personnel will be advised to make themselves known to every squad prior to each match.

We will aim to keep a minimum distance of 50m between each squad at all SANFL games.

The SANFL and its clubs will continue to identify games where potential problems may occur. At these games, the League will put on additional security and will request police presence.

Patrons who behave in an unacceptable manner can be evicted from grounds and barred for three months.

The League will contact all clubs today to advise them of the new security arrangements.

The League understands not all groups of supporters cause problems at SANFL matches.
However, we have a responsibility to the men, women and children who come to the football to watch the game and while doing so, respect the safety and wellbeing of their fellow supporters.

[matt1]

Let it be clear however, that it is also the position of the WWTFC that the reactions of others involved in the incident were totally disproportionate to anything that had gone on previously and ultimately grossly inappropriate. There is no excuse for engaging in violence and we will continue to work with the SANFL to identify those involved.

This comes across as unprofessional and sniping IMO. The only position of WWT is to deal with its people and it has done that and that's all that that release should address. Having a swipe at the opposition is unnecessary, it's up the SFC to talk to the people in charge of the cheer squad and hope they continue in their efforts to weed out the idiots.

Rubbish. "Others (than Treeby) involved in the incident" include EAGLES AND STURT supporters.

However, FWIW, I think Treeby has got off lightly and would have thought 4-6 games plus perhaps some sort of counselling may have been appropriate.

Actually Barto, two mates of mine who are members received calls from the CEO this afternoon asking for help to identify those who threw punches from the Eagles side of things......... Although I think the penalty is light at least our Club has commented officially in regard to the whole thing and have been transparent from the word go. Get off of your high horse - the world doesn't revolve around the Sturt FC.

[Aerie]

Courtesy of the SANFL:

Thursday, July 8, 2010

STATEMENT ON SANFL INVESTIGATION

Darren Chandler – Chief Officer, Football & Corporate Operations

The SANFL wishes to announce the findings of its investigation into an off-field incident last Saturday.

The League has a responsibility to ensure all matches hosted at local grounds continue to provide the public with good, family-friendly entertainment.

The type of behaviour witnessed on Saturday was far removed from the atmosphere considered the norm at SANFL matches.

The League takes its responsibility very seriously and in turn, relies on our football supporters to act in a responsible manner as well.

The vast majority do so on a weekly basis.

The SANFL’s investigation involved meetings with the Woodville-West Torrens Football Club (including player Leigh Treeby) and the Sturt Football Club (including the leader of the Sturt cheer squad) and discussions with Weslo security.

All parties provided the SANFL with detailed reports of the events, which have been considered by the League.

We wish to thank the clubs, Weslo and the police for their full cooperation with this investigation.

The investigation concluded the following:

The behaviour of Woodville-West Torrens player Leigh Treeby contributed to the incident.

The behaviour of some members of the Sturt cheer squad contributed to the incident and its escalation

On the day, SA Police removed two individuals from the ground following the incident. There were no reported injuries or charges laid.

Other football supporters became involved after the initial altercation.

Woodville-West Torrens Football Club earlier today announced it has fined Treeby the maximum $500 penalty under SANFL regulations and has made him unavailable for selection for one League match.

The SANFL has viewed this action as appropriate and will not impose any further penalties on Leigh.

The Sturt Football Club is committed to working with the Sturt cheer squad to improve its behaviour.

Under direction from the SANFL, Weslo will now have a one-on-one relationship with every club’s official cheer squad. Security personnel will be advised to make themselves known to every squad prior to each match.

We will aim to keep a minimum distance of 50m between each squad at all SANFL games.

The SANFL and its clubs will continue to identify games where potential problems may occur. At these games, the League will put on additional security and will request police presence.

Patrons who behave in an unacceptable manner can be evicted from grounds and barred for three months.

The League will contact all clubs today to advise them of the new security arrangements.

The League understands not all groups of supporters cause problems at SANFL matches.
However, we have a responsibility to the men, women and children who come to the football to watch the game and while doing so, respect the safety and wellbeing of their fellow supporters.

Commonsense. Well done. Move on with lessons learnt and better systems put in place.

[Adelaide Hawk]

The investigation concluded the following:

The behaviour of Woodville-West Torrens player Leigh Treeby contributed to the incident.

The behaviour of some members of the Sturt cheer squad contributed to the incident and its escalation

This is it in a nutshell. Incidents such as these never occur because of one person acting like an idiot. The next time someone at the footy is behaving like a semi-evolved simian, just ignore them and watch the footy.

[sjt]

If someone spills petrol everywhere and another person sees it and walks around with a lit match, who do you blame the result on?


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I'm not a lawyer, but I guess one could be charged with littering or illegal dumping and the other arson. The gist of the rest of the post I agree with.