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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:15 pm

Was tossing up between taking Rodd or Symons... definitely went the wrong option!!
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:18 pm

Had a small multi of Rodd/Neve/Cassidy at $141.22 too


Rodd was super value when he got the pick up ride
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:25 pm

Had a double with Neve/Cassidy $3 @ $35.. my only collect for the day... not bad though cause i only outlayed $27..
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby westcoastpanther » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:34 pm

Tillie you champion, first time I haven't declared my bet and that happens. Look for me to come on gloating at the end of the day from now on if that's how it works!!
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:57 pm

To say Neve is a wonderful rider :lol: :lol: is Letting your pockets do the talking boys :roll:

You found value you didnt find a 'wonderful rider' :oops: She is on a par with C Lions and margainly better than K Bishop
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:03 pm

overloaded wrote:To say Neve is a wonderful rider :lol: :lol: is Letting your pockets do the talking boys :roll:

You found value you didnt find a 'wonderful rider' :oops: She is on a par with C Lions and margainly better than K Bishop


You can't be serious??

4 weeks ago C Lions had the JC sewn up, just had to get one point on 2 favourites in the last two races.... 0 POINTS

Today, T Neve - needed 9 points to win with 3 rides left, none favourites, one $20 - BANG! 9 POINTS!!!!!

Maybe talking a bit through my pocket, BUT NEVER EVER COMPARE MS NEVE TO MS LIONS.....
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:06 pm

Mr_Willy wrote:
overloaded wrote:To say Neve is a wonderful rider :lol: :lol: is Letting your pockets do the talking boys :roll:

You found value you didnt find a 'wonderful rider' :oops: She is on a par with C Lions and margainly better than K Bishop


You can't be serious??

4 weeks ago C Lions had the JC sewn up, just had to get one point on 2 favourites in the last two races.... 0 POINTS

Today, T Neve - needed 9 points to win with 3 rides left, none favourites, one $20 - BANG! 9 POINTS!!!!!

Maybe talking a bit through my pocket, BUT NEVER EVER COMPARE MS NEVE TO MS LIONS.....


So you are judging jockeys on the jockey challenge points are you? Neve has 3 winners in a row and is the best hoop in SA? dont think so mate. Why wouldnt I compare them? Lions has been getting a lot more opportunities than Neve in the city recently and is the one regarded with more of a future.
I judge a jockey on balance, composure, pace reading, style, strength. Not on if they won me the JC the day before or not :oops: :roll:
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:12 pm

Ha ha..... I guarantee Lions won't be getting an opportunity on a Padman horse in a hurry....

Jockey Challenge points should be a bit of what they are judged on, seeing as JC points are based on WINS....

Of course she isn't the best hoop in SA....

Its all opinions mate... I think Neve is a much better jockey that Lions on recent history... A monkey could've got those Padman horses into the placings in Murray Bridge a few weeks back!
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:18 pm

Neve 353 rides 09/10 season........ 24 wins 59 places


Lions 416 rides 09/10 season.......... 52 wins 88 places


but hey.....please lets not compare them.......... :roll: :roll:
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:21 pm

Mr_Willy wrote:Ha ha..... I guarantee Lions won't be getting an opportunity on a Padman horse in a hurry....

Jockey Challenge points should be a bit of what they are judged on, seeing as JC points are based on WINS....

Of course she isn't the best hoop in SA....

Its all opinions mate... I think Neve is a much better jockey that Lions on recent history... A monkey could've got those Padman horses into the placings in Murray Bridge a few weeks back!

I just want you to come up with some facts and not talk BS through your wallet. Neve has had her chance and is very ordinary hoop. So is Lions IMHO but at least she is slowly improving and is younger.
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:21 pm

overloaded wrote:Neve 353 rides 09/10 season........ 24 wins 59 places


Lions 416 rides 09/10 season.......... 52 wins 88 places


but hey.....please lets not compare them.......... :roll: :roll:


Ha ha ha!!!! I would like to look at the prices though... I know Tillie rides a lot for John Hickmont and gets a lot of long shots up....

I will never back Lions again in a JC.... she is also a valid reason for me not to back a horse...
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Mr_Willy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:21 pm

overloaded wrote:
Mr_Willy wrote:Ha ha..... I guarantee Lions won't be getting an opportunity on a Padman horse in a hurry....

Jockey Challenge points should be a bit of what they are judged on, seeing as JC points are based on WINS....

Of course she isn't the best hoop in SA....

Its all opinions mate... I think Neve is a much better jockey that Lions on recent history... A monkey could've got those Padman horses into the placings in Murray Bridge a few weeks back!

I just want you to come up with some facts and not talk BS through your wallet. Neve has had her chance and is very ordinary hoop. So is Lions IMHO but at least she is slowly improving and is younger.


Why would I waste time looking for facts on a ridiculous argument that I only stoked up for a laugh!??!?! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:45 pm

Neve has had 252 rides at Morphetville for 15 wins 40 places

Lions has had 206 rides at Morphetville for 24 wins 38 places

Neve however does have the advantage at Streaky Bay with 1 win to 0...... ;) :oops:
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:01 pm

Wow good work Tillie, after last week I have a soft spot for her.

Was interesting that after CC's win last week Ken was still giving her advice how she could have been stronger with the horse and giving her tips to improve. She is also a fairly introverted/shy girl so maybe doesnt have the influencing skills yet to get the best rides. She definately has some upside in her.

Dont think its real fair to compare stats, breaking it down further with average odds of winners would be more interesting
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Simmo152 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:07 pm

Dutchy wrote:Wow good work Tillie, after last week I have a soft spot for her.

Was interesting that after CC's win last week Ken was still giving her advice how she could have been stronger with the horse and giving her tips to improve. She is also a fairly introverted/shy girl so maybe doesnt have the influencing skills yet to get the best rides. She definately has some upside in her.

Dont think its real fair to compare stats, breaking it down further with average odds of winners would be more interesting



were you just trying to get more airtime for CC!! haha.

Good horse though, well done mate! hopefully you can give me warning next time so i can jump on the CC wagon!
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:16 pm

Check your blackbook Simmo!
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:16 pm

Not fair to compare stats? WTF?

Shall we compare looks or size of ass or what? FFS

:roll:

P Crich probably gets more 50-1 winners home that D Beadman so is he a better jock than him? :lol:
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Dutchy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:18 pm

overloaded wrote:Not fair to compare stats? WTF?

Shall we compare looks or size of ass or what? FFS

:roll:


SO you think its fair to compare W/L records if one jock get 100 rides under $10 and the other jock 100 rides are all over $20?
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby overloaded » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:33 am

why is that jock only riding over $20 chances. If she is such a great jockey and gets all these big priced winners home then wouldnt you think she would then get some better rides?

WOW she has lobbed on a couple of roughies in here time. What a great hoop :ymparty: :-@
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Re: Jockey Challenge

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:47 am

overloaded wrote:To say Neve is a wonderful rider :lol: :lol: is Letting your pockets do the talking boys :roll:

You found value you didnt find a 'wonderful rider' :oops: She is on a par with C Lions and margainly better than K Bishop



OL when I said that I certainly was talking through my pocket....she had just made my day very profitable. I still think she is an under rated rider who will only improve over the next few months and she will be a jockey to follow. I certainly would have no hesitation in backing any of mounts.

Sometimes OL you need to chillout and dont take things on face value. When a rider wins us cash, we are always going to go a little over the top especially when Neve came from 8 points behind Price with 3 rides to come and she wins all 3. I think we are entitled to give her a huge rapt and get a little excited.
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