Rd 13 West Adelaide vs WWT Eagles Review

[redandblack]

'Monster flood', Mr Fuller?

Didn't go to the game, then?

No wonder your own supporters disown you.

[dedja]

Maybe this bloke can help with the flood?

[nickname]

Ty Allen?

[dedja]

Ty Allen?

Maybe, or his long lost brother ...

[Columbo]

Westies too good on an emotional day, wouldnt go so far as to say Monster Flood but to look up and see 30 players inside our forward 50 certainaly doesnt make for attractive footy.

Well done to both sides, umpires etc on the ceremony pre the under 18's match, no easy way to handle events such as those, would imagine the events of the last week would have affected a few of the Eagles boys who may attend Henley High also.

[redandblack]

Columbo, because there's been discussion recently about flooding, I took particular notice of this over the last two weeks.

Both Centrals and the Eagles had all but 1 or 2 players in West's forward line for long periods in both games. This is a normal part of what happens in today's football.

I'd call it 'flooding' when extra players are played behind the ball, not when players are folding back to help their defenders.

[corona]

Well done West Adelaide, an emotional day for you, and all followers of football.
The ceremony after the game was very stirring.

The Eagles lacked a winning forward after Welsh, Salter and Shultz did not play...and Grocke was in hospital for 2 days during the week with a spider bite..so he was a bit flat too....
No excuses I know but we lacked anyone that could win their position up forward.

I think the Eagles got in trouble when they moved the ball too slowly into attack which let West push numbers back...at times there was 18 West players in the Eagles forward 50.

The game was frustrating to watch and the umpiring decisions were comical...terrible for both sides and the Eagles got a dream run of frees in the beginning of the last qtr.....at one point it looked like Cicollela was caught holding the ball...I thought , fair enough..then suddenly the ump gives him a free kick ??

A couple of turning points in the game were little Caruso kicking 2 quick goals, then Bennett in the last qtr kicking 2 goals after the Eagles threatened...

The Eagles had enough of the ball across the midfield and defence but the forward structure didn't work...and the lack of goalkickers was a problem.

[85 WAS A GOOD YEAR]

Columbo, because there's been discussion recently about flooding, I took particular notice of this over the last two weeks.

Both Centrals and the Eagles had all but 1 or 2 players in West's forward line for long periods in both games. This is a normal part of what happens in today's football.

I'd call it 'flooding' when extra players are played behind the ball, not when players are folding back to help their defenders.

Copied from Monday Morning Centreman's QUOTES OF THE WEEK

"We'll probably look for a World Cup score next week. 1-0.''

Nathan Bassett takes a poke at West Adelaide's defensive mindset."

[JK]

Columbo, because there's been discussion recently about flooding, I took particular notice of this over the last two weeks.

Both Centrals and the Eagles had all but 1 or 2 players in West's forward line for long periods in both games. This is a normal part of what happens in today's football.

I'd call it 'flooding' when extra players are played behind the ball, not when players are folding back to help their defenders.

Copied from Monday Morning Centreman's QUOTES OF THE WEEK

"We'll probably look for a World Cup score next week. 1-0.''

Nathan Bassett takes a poke at West Adelaide's defensive mindset."

The author failed to mention that could also be a reflection of the Norwood coaches philosophy behind a meagre defensive setup.

Im staggered some people point the bone at clubs over "flooding" when:

a) ALL clubs do it at certain times
b) Any club doing it has a responsibility to win, not play pretty football, and that responsibility is only to their own members

[FlyingHigh]

Oh, for Les Favell

[redandblack]

Indeed, Les would never have flooded.

What I can't work out is that if West are supposed to constantly flood, why have they scored more points than they've conceded and how have they managed to win 6 games out of eleven (which includes 2 losses to centrals) and if they get that result by flooding, why would they change it?

[whufc]

At the end of the day the SANFL is now a big business and like any sport you play to win, if a team has to flood and they can win games doing so, than hell go for it.

The only reason i would question Westies flooding was against Central when they clearly played using a ultra defensive flood (to the point even when they got the ball they had to kick backwards because every player was behind them). They were never going to beat the Dogs like this, the Central side love a scrap and are too well drilled to be sucked into the flood.

The reason why i thought that was wrong as well was because of the way they had beat us at their own ground less than 12 months ago by playing an attacking play on at all costs style game which shook the Dogs similar to what Sturt have done on a couple of occasions.

[redandblack]

What were your comments in that game in the third quarter when every Centrals player was in West's forward line for a considerable time?

As I said, all teams do it and West are 6-5, with a positive points differential.

[whufc]

What were your comments in that game in the third quarter when every Centrals player was in West's forward line for a considerable time?

As I said, all teams do it and West are 6-5, with a positive points differential.

To do it from the beginning of the game is imho the wrong mindset to send the players onto the field with.

[nickname]

We had 4 players in the centre square at the beginning of the game.

I don't believe the game plan has changed from last year, it's the way the players execute it that changes from time to time.

[Pseudo]

As I said, all teams do it and West are 6-5, with a positive points differential.

Soccer might be dull to watch, but I see that some of its terminology has taken root among the Aussie Rules tragics

[redandblack]

What were your comments in that game in the third quarter when every Centrals player was in West's forward line for a considerable time?

As I said, all teams do it and West are 6-5, with a positive points differential.

To do it from the beginning of the game is imho the wrong mindset to send the players onto the field with.

That presumes they are instructed to do it.

What factual evidence, other than your opinion after seeing them once or twice, do you have to support that.

If you think you're right, how do you explian that we've kicked more score than our combined opposition, or is that just an annoying detail

[redandblack]

As I said, all teams do it and West are 6-5, with a positive points differential.

Soccer might be dull to watch, but I see that some of its terminology has taken root among the Aussie Rules tragics

Since when has soccer taken ownership of that term, P?

[Mr Fuller]

The author failed to mention that could also be a reflection of the Norwood coaches philosophy behind a meagre defensive setup.

Im staggered some people point the bone at clubs over "flooding" when:

a) ALL clubs do it at certain times
b) Any club doing it has a responsibility to win, not play pretty football, and that responsibility is only to their own members[/quote]


I think a side should do whatever it takes to win and not worry about whether they are playing attractive football or not. I was just making the point that Westies have employed flooding tactics in both matches we've played this year (norwood were also bad the first time we played them this year at woodville) and this has brought the standard of hte match. But full credit to West. If this works for them then they should continue to do so. It is up to the eagles (and other sides) to work around this and we were simply not able to do this on the weekend.

[JK]

Fair post Mr F, I wasn't necessarily having a go at anyone in particular, just more in response to the calls of flooding from many supporters this year.

Norwood used to get destroyed by the flood in the Hill era and we would plead to at least do the same to limit the damage, but it fell on deaf ears.

Regardless, being on the receiving end it was clear to see the value the opposition was gaining by employing the tactic and how well it worked against us.