North d South Round 11 Review

[saintal]

Well put B+W. Swap our past 30 years with any other clubs, and we'll see how many of thier supporters still go along each week.

I try not to take the 'bait' that is offered on here each week, but still occasionally bite Such is the internet.

[Ian]

North are still well and truly in finals contention

After watching yesterdays display do you really believe that

Looking at the injury list in the Budget yesterday it was interesting to not that North currently have the equal lowest injuy list in the league (4) while South have longest list with 16 listed

[Wedgie]

Yep it was taken yesterday, I saw a total of 3 South supporters yesterday.
Remember that's the busy side of the ground too.

I think you should open your eyes a bit. There were far more than 3 South supporters in attendance yesterday.

I think you should open your eyes a bit! I didn't say there was only 3 South supporters in attendance I said I saw only 3 South supporters.
I got there at 12.30, walked in the main entrance, walked to the BBQ stand, briefly chatted with a Glenelg and a Central supporter then proceeded to go to my usual spot at the Southern bar and proceeded to drink so many Bundya I was lucky to see 50 metres. I have no doubt there were some South supporters not wearing any blue and white (I didn't wear red and white), Im sure some South supporters rocked up after 12.30 and Im sure there were some South supporters out of my viewing distance but the fact was that I only saw 3 South supporters during the day.
Perhaps learn to read before you criticise others in the future.
Thanking you.

[Wedgie]

can anybody explain what the free kick to Pollock was for late in the game? Looked to be a genuine contest for the footy from where I was standing. Sour grapes yes.

All Pollock did was drop an easy mark, we were atthe southern end near it and had absolutely no idea what the decision was for. IMHO that decision cost South the game (changed the momentum of the game) so I don't blame you for having sour grapes.

[bayman]

well it was a 'see-saw' battle with two huge momentum swings

cockshells advice he gave (& got) to & from supporters along the boundary while probably not disciplined was entertaining & thing main thing it showed me was that he cared about the game & the club he was playing for, as imho he at norwood never looked interested in the few games i saw him play for norwood


the most bemusing thing i get out of the game is why did it take south hitting the front for north to play are more attacking & long kicking game


south have a nucleus of a good team & if they keep them & recruit sensibly they can charge up the ladder quickly in the next year or so, i can see them winning a few more games in the season including a 'big name' scalp

[scott]

Six losses in a row but I'm still optimistic.The biggest sign of the year is we haven't categorically rolled over and lost by the typical 100+ points. Biggest loss this season is 54.

[Mic]

Yep it was taken yesterday, I saw a total of 3 South supporters yesterday.
Remember that's the busy side of the ground too.

I think North should be most concerned about the poor number of their own supporters at the game. I've attended plenty of games at Prospect during Norths poorer years when the crowd has been double yesterdays. North are still well and truly in finals contention and to draw such a small contingent of your own supporters is a concern, never mind our meagre contribution.

Our club won't care, they will just blame the ABC coverage, Tyson Edwards' farewell, the Crows playing, etc.

[Wedgie]

North might be in finals contention but were playing the worst football ever in our history. 2003 when we got flogged by 100 plus points every week was better to watch. The scary part about it is there's teams worse than us!

[southee]

Yep it was taken yesterday, I saw a total of 3 South supporters yesterday.
Remember that's the busy side of the ground too.

I think you should open your eyes a bit. There were far more than 3 South supporters in attendance yesterday. It is a given that South supporters are few and far between- newsflash, we have had very little success in the last generation and havent won a flag for almost 50 yrs. Those that still support the club deserve a bloody medal; not the goading, baiting and derision they get most weeks from some opposition supporters.
I think North should be most concerned about the poor number of their own supporters at the game. I've attended plenty of games at Prospect during Norths poorer years when the crowd has been double yesterdays. North are still well and truly in finals contention and to draw such a small contingent of your own supporters is a concern, never mind our meagre contribution.

Well said B&W....well and truly over the South bashing on this site.

I try and get there every week and to hear the same old comments is quite frankly becoming "tiresome".

Of course we dont have the amount of support as other clubs considering our record, but I know the South supporters that go to games and know are some of the most passionate, die hard, loyal people you could ever meet.

[FlyingHigh]

can anybody explain what the free kick to Pollock was for late in the game? Looked to be a genuine contest for the footy from where I was standing. Sour grapes yes.

All Pollock did was drop an easy mark, we were atthe southern end near it and had absolutely no idea what the decision was for. IMHO that decision cost South the game (changed the momentum of the game) so I don't blame you for having sour grapes.

Do you mean the goal Pollock kicked? The ball bounced through Cockshell, Pollock attacked it hard coming out from the goals, whilst Thewlis came across with a with a sloppy arm across the head. Definite free kick. The next one to Alleway was an absolute disgrace in a close game, he was simply worked off the ball. Mind you, the one Joyce got to put South in front was pretty ordinary too. Get the feeling the players know what sort of frees are being played and are starting to play up to them, far more so than we have seen in the past.

[FlyingHigh]

don't despair South supporters

although you lost the game there were some good signs

the fightback from 40 odd points down to hit the lead in the final term was commendable

some good signs starting to show from this young side still developing

I thought the change of Mckenna into the ruck turned the game with Cockshell going forward

it was just undiciplined errors that cost South the game today

(can't understand why supporters bag the umpires when you've won the game?)

I think its a fair view point if the winning team bags the umpires, its shows that supporters DO know the game and only need umpires there to adjuicate the rules to keep it a fair contest, thats all both teams want. We dont need umpires dictating how they want the game played, the players set that standard whether it be a good game or a bad game.

Yes, we were very undisciplined at times today, and that may or may not have cost us the win, who knows, but we are starting to get things together, we have some exciting youngsters on the move up, this will take a bit of time together for better results, maybe soon than a lot of people think.

McKenna going on the ball gave us a competitive edge in ruck, with Cockshell up forward, someone to aim for and take a few strong grabs.

We are only a small bunch of die hards who go each week, and when the team starts to string some wins on the board, the barrackers will return, the supporters are already here watching.

PP, exactly right about the umpires.
But don't really agree about South. You had an ordinary team right where they wanted them 20 minutes into the first quarter, then 45 minutes of footy later you were down by 8 goals. Fightback would have been commendable against a Centrals or Bays, but not a team such as the way North are plating at the moment.

[Wedgie]

can anybody explain what the free kick to Pollock was for late in the game? Looked to be a genuine contest for the footy from where I was standing. Sour grapes yes.

All Pollock did was drop an easy mark, we were atthe southern end near it and had absolutely no idea what the decision was for. IMHO that decision cost South the game (changed the momentum of the game) so I don't blame you for having sour grapes.

Do you mean the goal Pollock kicked? The ball bounced through Cockshell, Pollock attacked it hard coming out from the goals, whilst Thewlis came across with a with a sloppy arm across the head. Definite free kick. The next one to Alleway was an absolute disgrace in a close game, he was simply worked off the ball. Mind you, the one Joyce got to put South in front was pretty ordinary too. Get the feeling the players know what sort of frees are being played and are starting to play up to them, far more so than we have seen in the past.

It's funny as different angles give different opinions, yep, he Pollock one was the right one, I thought no contact there. Ironically the Alleway one was definately there from my angle but if Alleway had done the right thing in taking the ball cleanly instead of thumbling it and falling to ground it wouldn't have been a free. Cleatly there but absolute luck.

[Wedgie]

Can someone point out to me where the South fan bashing is on this thread and where anyone said they should be getting more to games?
From the crap I saw yesterday it's amazing anyone goes to these games be they a supporter of any club and well done to those who did!

[FlyingHigh]

can anybody explain what the free kick to Pollock was for late in the game? Looked to be a genuine contest for the footy from where I was standing. Sour grapes yes.

All Pollock did was drop an easy mark, we were atthe southern end near it and had absolutely no idea what the decision was for. IMHO that decision cost South the game (changed the momentum of the game) so I don't blame you for having sour grapes.

Do you mean the goal Pollock kicked? The ball bounced through Cockshell, Pollock attacked it hard coming out from the goals, whilst Thewlis came across with a with a sloppy arm across the head. Definite free kick. The next one to Alleway was an absolute disgrace in a close game, he was simply worked off the ball. Mind you, the one Joyce got to put South in front was pretty ordinary too. Get the feeling the players know what sort of frees are being played and are starting to play up to them, far more so than we have seen in the past.

It's funny as different angles give different opinions, yep, he Pollock one was the right one, I thought no contact there. Ironically the Alleway one was definately there from my angle but if Alleway had done the right thing in taking the ball cleanly instead of thumbling it and falling to ground it wouldn't have been a free. Cleatly there but absolute luck.

And that's the difficulty in umpiring I guess. "Absolute disgrace" may have been a bit harsh, but (watching on the telly) paying that free at that time of a close game shows no feel for the game IMO. Of course, someone will reply that if it's a free it should be paid anywhere anytime, but we all know umpires often let things go a little bit at the end of close games when the players are striving that little bit harder.

[topsywaldron]

The SANFL is a lower standard than the SANFL reserves were 10 years ago

Don't judge the entire comp by the one team you watch week in week out. Today's game at the Parade was infinitely better than the glorified basketball crap that the majority of AFL teams dish up each week.

[on the rails]

And that's the difficulty in umpiring I guess. "Absolute disgrace" may have been a bit harsh, but (watching on the telly) paying that free at that time of a close game shows no feel for the game IMO. Of course, someone will reply that if it's a free it should be paid anywhere anytime, but we all know umpires often let things go a little bit at the end of close games when the players are striving that little bit harder.

At the game from my angle it was hard to tell what happened re the Pollock free kick but the Alleway one was absoultely there. After watching the replay the Pollock free was a monty yet the Alleway free from the TV angle didn't look so convincing however both were there no doubt.

Let's face it - the only reason South got back into the game and nearly pinched it was the fact North got "cocky" and ahead of itself and went to sleep from 10 minutes into the thrid until midway through the last. Second time this year when we desperately needed the percentage we have let a big lead go against South.

As for the crowd debate, I was flippant and made light of the likely South numbers late last week but they had the expected poor turnout as they always do (good on their diehards though for turning out each week) however the lack of North crowd at the game shows that as with many other clubs, people like winners or at least teams who play an attractive brand of football, not some of the rubbish North has served up for the majority of this year. As for 1500 odd being at the game - b*ullshit!

[blueandwhite]

Tagging 101.

When tagging a prominent player from the opposition there are many techniques that can be used. One technique involves a short sharp jab to the sola-plexis, thus rendering the target winded, on the ground gasping for breath for a couple of minutes.It gives time for the tagger to catch his breath, and resume his tagging role refreshed after a few minutes, while reducing the opposition playmaker useless.
The best opportunity to implement this technique is to wait until the target is well away from the ball -at least 30 metres, therefore not to attract the attention of the umpires. Great care must be taken because there may be ( ?) 3 umpires who may be watching.
It is also a good idea to use this tactic sparingly. Using it against the same player every time you play them is sure to attract attention.

[Blueandwhiteforever]

I wonder why anyone would support south. So many times they hit the front only to think they have done enough and then get beaten. I would have watched hundreds of games and this would happen at least one in three. I only played amateur footy but when we got a run on we kept going with the momentum. How can you get so much momentum and then stop. Shows a lack of guile and know how to win for me. South fans do deserve a medal to put up with the bullshit south adelaide players put us through year in year out. I really do think we need a few aboriginals in somelike davey who can run and kick goals and break the play open. Most sides have em except us. Ronnie Fuller must be starting to pull his hair out. Following south is like a drug you know its bad and you know you are going to end up rock bottom but you have to keep going.

[on the rails]

Tagging 101.

When tagging a prominent player from the opposition there are many techniques that can be used. One technique involves a short sharp jab to the sola-plexis, thus rendering the target winded, on the ground gasping for breath for a couple of minutes.It gives time for the tagger to catch his breath, and resume his tagging role refreshed after a few minutes, while reducing the opposition playmaker useless.
The best opportunity to implement this technique is to wait until the target is well away from the ball -at least 30 metres, therefore not to attract the attention of the umpires. Great care must be taken because there may be ( ?) 3 umpires who may be watching.
It is also a good idea to use this tactic sparingly. Using it against the same player every time you play them is sure to attract attention.

Hmm was it you (or maybe it was blue and white?) that had a sook the last time the sides played when Liddle went down like he had been shot jut like last Saturday?

Well at least Stribling knows how to get around it unlike that big dumb Cockshell and his punch to Gill's midriff! As for your comments - maybe sour grapes as your taggers / on ballers are abject failures at tagging after they tried for the first quarter and half to "take out" Jimmy Allan - didn't work, he was dominant but at least Fuller eventually shelved that "tactic" halfway through the second quarter or was it that the on ballers had run out of ideas? A bit of both I suspect?

[blueandwhite]

Tagging 101.

When tagging a prominent player from the opposition there are many techniques that can be used. One technique involves a short sharp jab to the sola-plexis, thus rendering the target winded, on the ground gasping for breath for a couple of minutes.It gives time for the tagger to catch his breath, and resume his tagging role refreshed after a few minutes, while reducing the opposition playmaker useless.
The best opportunity to implement this technique is to wait until the target is well away from the ball -at least 30 metres, therefore not to attract the attention of the umpires. Great care must be taken because there may be ( ?) 3 umpires who may be watching.
It is also a good idea to use this tactic sparingly. Using it against the same player every time you play them is sure to attract attention.

Hmm was it you (or maybe it was blue and white?) that had a sook the last time the sides played when Liddle went down like he had been shot jut like last Saturday?

Well at least Stribling knows how to get around it unlike that big dumb Cockshell and his punch to Gill's midriff! As for your comments - maybe sour grapes as your taggers / on ballers are abject failures at tagging after they tried for the first quarter and half to "take out" Jimmy Allan - didn't work, he was dominant but at least Fuller eventually shelved that "tactic" halfway through the second quarter or was it that the on ballers had run out of ideas? A bit of both I suspect?

Thanks for clearing that all up for us otr. You obviously saw the incidents the same way I did.
Its quite obvious that Cockshell gave away some stupid free kicks for some dumb acts. He's obviously got to learn to do it 30 metres off the ball so it goes un- noticed and doesnt get penalised.