HFL Division 1 (Central)

[sound4]

I am only going to say this once, but well said V, made for very good reading

[Goldberg]

Forget hands in the back, Chopping the arms & ruck infringments

There's only 1 thing wrong with that statement- They are the rules

Join us in 2010 V

[Justquietly]

C'mon Goldberg! Doesn't mean we need to like the rules!
What about the 'in the back' rule, the one that as of about 3 years ago meant that if you even coughed near someone's back, it was a free. That's been toned down a bit.

[Vaughan]

Forget hands in the back, Chopping the arms & ruck infringments

There's only 1 thing wrong with that statement- They are the rules

Join us in 2010 V

Yes, I understand these are rules, but if I'm not wrong the new interpretations of these rules were originally introduced into the AFL to increase the speed and standard of the game...
Now dont get me wrong the HFL in a great comp... but the standard is a long way from AFL in terms of both playing and umpiring.
I'm not saying don't pay any free kicks, just be lenieant when paying them with a view towards letting the play go. Believe me, both players and spectators will prefer this style of umpiring.
V.

[the wonder elephant]

tips for this week
blackwood vs onkaparinga - blackwood by 5 goals
hahndorf vs bridgewater - RAIDERS by 4 goals in an inspired performance
ironbank vs lobethal - thunderers by 10 goals
mount barker vs birdwood - barker by plenty
uraidla vs mount lofty - cabbage by 5 goals

also not sure if safooty is ready for this... but i have tried all other avenues to voice my opinions and this seems like the only way... countless unanswered or published letters to the final siren and courier dating back nearly 15 years have left me very disheartened... this is my last option to get Vaughans View to the people...


Vaughans View
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TV “Punching” out of their weight Division

With the undefeated Torrens Valley crushing all before them in an 8-0 start to the season, their path to Central Division ranks looked a formality… Until an alleged incident following a heated senior colts battle has left a bitter taste in the mouth of soon to be Central rivals.
Witnesses suggest an on field incident resurfaced well after the game, with punches flying and parents getting involved.
In my day, what happened out on the field of battle was done and dusted at the final bell, put to bed with a handshake, but now it seems the hot-headed actions from a gang of hooligan senior colts has given Mr. Hughes and the boffins down at the Valley one big unwanted headache.
The fallout from this incident appears far from over with some people not at all happy with the lenient punishment handed out, but one thing is for certain, this kind of thuggery and bullyboy tactics just won’t wash in the Central Division competition.
Vaughans View: De-register the culprit and have his name forever stricken from the HFL records.

Men in White should be out of Sight

I have huge respect for those who officiate in HFL football matches. It’s a thankless job and without them the spectacle that is Hills footy simply wouldn’t exist. I’ve seen more games in this competition than most, and in my opinion, the field, boundary and goal umpires usually do a sterling job.
With this being said, I must admit that nothing infuriates me more than an over umpired game of football. It irritates all involved.
I have already seen a few fantastic matches this year where the umpires have put the whistle away and just let the play go. It provides plenty of one of one contests, and free flowing football, something that pleases both players and supporters alike. So umpires, forget the tiggy-touchwood little free kicks, and trivial 25 metres penalties, and just pay the decisions that are clear cut and obvious. You are not bigger than the game.
Vaughans View: Umpires put a cork in it! The fewer free kicks the better… forget hands in the back, chopping the arms and ruck infringements, and just let the lads get after the footy.

Relegation Situation

I’m sure the powers that be at each club have a firm grip on what is going on with this much debated relegation situation. However, as a supporter, I’m still not confident with exactly what is going on, and having spoken to some players I know they feel the same.
I have seen the points system that is in place, with weighting towards victory in each grade, but what’s stopping a side like Lobethal or Birdwood stacking their B Grade and getting the required points to escape relegation that way?
Also with the importance being placed on Senior Colts victory’s, surely this is stunting the development of upcoming young players, with clubs more worried about winning at under 17 level than giving their young guns a crack in the A Grade? All food for thought, but with more spanners being thrown in the works, and threats of legal action this week, its time for the HFL to come out and let the Hills community know in black and white, because like it or not they have been doing more backflips than Greg Louganis.
Vaughan’s View: Scrap relegation and have an 11 team Central Division Comp in 2011.

Stay in the Closet
Don’t get me wrong, I use to love feeling up the odd arse or two in showers during my playing days, but I have to agree with that big mouthed redhead from Whitten Oval and say that the HFL is not ready for a big coming out parade. I’m sure that there are blokes getting around in the HFL that are inclined to “rush the odd behind” but I have to agree with Aker and suggest that this would tear at the fabric of the competition.
Vaughan’s View: Stay so deep in the closet you are in Narnia.

Thanks
V.

PS
RAIDERS till I DIE!!!

good post there V that will set the cat amongst the pidgeons . I would like to think that the hfl will sort out the relegation issue sooner rather than later so that everyone knows where they stand .
Anyway on to bigger issues this weekends games Ironbank with a big return this week and look forward to seeing how he fits in with the yeomans and sully . Should be a good game and thunderers by 5-6 goals looking forward to being back at home finally . Good luck to all this weekend

[Amateur Footy]

Almost agreed with everything you seaid there V..... unbelievable.

However, I wouldn't like to see 11 teams in Central, 10 is perfect and eliminates the need for a bye. The current two weekends off are ideal. If I were to implement promotion/relegation it would be based solely on the A Grade results with a stipulation that you must have a full compliment of B grade through to u13 to play in Central comp. If a club can't fill all juniors then they would be relegated before the club finishing bottom in A grade. However, a club would only be relegated if one of the clubs in Country Div who finish in top 3 of A grade want to come up and that they have a full compliment of seniors/juniors. No need to nominate a year in advance, it should happen each season, but nominations would need to be received by June 30 so that all clubs know where they stand come the end of the season.

[Justquietly]

Turn it up, TWE! If you've got a big return to slot in, surely you'd rate yourselves better than a 5-6 goal win against the wooden spooners!

[the wonder elephant]

Turn it up, TWE! If you've got a big return to slot in, surely you'd rate yourselves better than a 5-6 goal win against the wooden spooners!

Zing Zing never try to get ahead of ourselves at thunder park get the win first and the rest will take care of itself

[aceman]

the lenient punishment handed out

V, you have excelled yourself with some 'commonsense words", are you feeling okay?
I have hilighted the above as this is not quite correct, I think it should read " the leniency and lack of punishment handed out" but that's just my point of view.
As they say, "leopards don't change their spots" so why should the HFL men change their minds, they reckon they're always right, don't they?
At least it appears so from the outside.
BTW, don't go to an 11 team comp unless it's an absolute necessity, byes are only for cricket scorebooks!.

[Joe Blow]

In regards to TV joining central division.....apparently its not certain TV as a 'whole' club want to join central. Most of the committee don't want to go up. It's mainly GH and his ridiculously paid players that want to go up and show everyone how good they are. The deadline for the club to pull out june 30. So some of the bottom central clubs may be getting worried for nothing.

[Alaska]

V...............wow you have hit the mark........... we need a common sense view. (if not perfect)
Not so long ago we all coped with the bye in both comps?
The organisation and drive needed to attain current levels in both divisions is incredible by all successful clubs.
If a club through momentum, collectively or individually can put enough “volunteers” together to be successful good luck to them.
Each club though has to be strong enough to have a discipline in each grade to ensure s### does not happen and that is where Owen makes his money......... by anticipating and correcting this....

[overthehill]

V i must say i like to see the umps let the game flow but for me, i understand rules are rules and the umps may not like them anymore then we do but consistency. They need to be consistent with their calls and with each other.
You have seen a fair bit of footy this year V-Man so you and everyone tell me, who is the best umpire in the HFL?

[dukes]

V, as many have said.. well done. im not to sure about you though. You have gone from most hated forum poster to league genius in a matter of seconds with your latest post. Some of your ideas are great but others are well out dated! For a busy interstate businessman your realy no how to keep your finger on the pulse around hills footy..country and central! I would love to hear who some of your contacts are?

Dukes

[has been]

Good to see the relegation debate getting some good discussion. Here is another idea being thrown around - no more cally or sedan. No disrespect but they do the comp no favours and with only an 8 team country comp the situation of 2 farcical games in that comp each week is automatically gone. That has to be a step in the right direction. I also think it is about time loby started to live in the real world. drop back to country for a year or 2 and start to win games again. That is the only way to rebuild a once proud club. Winning in any form no matter what grade or comp gets people back and around the place. That is what they need. Throwing money at so called recruits has not worked. If it was a business operating like they have over the past 3 years the doors would be shut. 11 teams in central is not their salvation. Birdwood and Bridgy do not deserve to be even in the relegation equation. 3 years of incompatent performance is the true guage of where the Loby club is at.

[magpiemaster]

Good to see the relegation debate getting some good discussion. Here is another idea being thrown around - no more cally or sedan. No disrespect but they do the comp no favours and with only an 8 team country comp the situation of 2 farcical games in that comp each week is automatically gone. That has to be a step in the right direction. I also think it is about time loby started to live in the real world. drop back to country for a year or 2 and start to win games again. That is the only way to rebuild a once proud club. Winning in any form no matter what grade or comp gets people back and around the place. That is what they need. Throwing money at so called recruits has not worked. If it was a business operating like they have over the past 3 years the doors would be shut. 11 teams in central is not their salvation. Birdwood and Bridgy do not deserve to be even in the relegation equation. 3 years of incompatent performance is the true guage of where the Loby club is at.

for me, success is the true gauge of where a club is at and with that bridgy are the prime candidates for mine. 20 years or sub par finishes in hills football says there is a true problem.

[Amateur Footy]

Relegation rules can't be subjective tho, they must be hard and fast so that everyone knows what they are.

There are rules in place now and I'm not sure why Owen doesn't just publish them in the Siren. Clubs would all be aware of them from HFL meetings, but I don't see the message getting through to anyone not on a club committee.

[Jardarf]

Had a good laugh reading in the Siren today, 'President Almighty' has had a rough go at all the people on the forum, check it out it's a nice giggle. Just a shame he can't take the criticism on board and acknowledge the concerns people have. If anything, by highlighting this forum in the Siren he might actually make more people aware of it, bring more people online to list even more critisism against 'his' league. Good Job Mr Lamshed!

[BRaG]

what did he say?

[Jardarf]

A-Grade: Blackwood 18.15 def Onka Valley 6.10
B-Grade: Blackwood Win
Senior Colts: Blackwood Win
Junior Colts: Onka Valley Win
Under 13's: Blackwood Win

[Jardarf]

what did he say?

Nonsense
I have no idea how many of you people out there in Hills football land look at the footy forum on your computers, but I sincerely hope not too many. I have just had a look through the sections that deal with the Hills Football League and I conclude that there is a fair bit of nonsense.
Now firstly you need to know that to be a contributor to the footy forum you do NOT have to identify yourself. In other words you use an alias. How weak is that? I will sign my name at the bottom of this article!
What amazes me is how quickly some of these contributors get onto information. Some know of things as soon as we decide them!
Perhaps the authors are people we know well. While some of the stuff is garbage some of it is very true.
I do find a few of the things written half sensible. For example one writes about Callington: "At least they are not destroying the comp by paying absurd amounts of money for mediocre blokes". An example of how they get things wrong: "Anyone at the Meadows Maccy s/c game? heard that had to be called off before it started because of an all in brawl". The game was forfeited by Macclesfield because of a shortage of players and they played a friendly scratch match.
Quite a few of the contributors have had a go at the HFL administration [mainly myself] over the incidents at Kangarilla on Saturday. Well firstly, we can only deal with things if they are reported to us correctly and in the appropriate manner. We cannot be every where!
One of the incidents at Kangarilla has been reported as such and was dealt with at tribunal on Wednesday night. Report on this below.
Now to all those people who put stuff on the footy forum, I hope you are major volunteers with an HFL football club and you work your butt off for that club. Because if you don't you are not worth a crumpet to football. You have "obvious talent". Use it to benefit football, not hinder it!

Thursday. The case arising from the incident at Kangarilla on Saturday was heard last night and turned out to be a bit of a fizzer. Quite honestly it was a "meeting" of five lads who had just played football against each other, with feelings a little high, who had a bit more than a chat! There had been an incident in the game which did involve two of the lads. Nothing was premeditated and nobody was hurt.
What worries me more is this. The whole tribunal happenings and results was on the "footy forum" by 10.20pm. We finished at 9.30pm! Just enough time to get back to Torrens Valley or Kangarilla! Had to be somebody at that hearing. Please, if you have time for this footy forum garbage [I'm sorry, but that's what most of it is] forget that and put your time into doing some thing useful for your club.
OWEN LAMSHED

So there you have it folks, and just to clarify, it only took me 15 mins to scribe this into the forum, hardly a waste of my time, what else am I going to do till dinner time? Read a book? This is more fun and clearly is a hell of a laugh if people are going to get all snooty about it. Thanks for the giggle Big O, keep up the good work!