Southern Football League

[thegossip]

first of all marions B grade didnt get beat by the score that was put on this site. try brighton 15 goals not 51 goals. I was at the game and the A grade marion looked ok for the 1st quarter until the strength of brighton got on top. everyone knows that there is to many teams in southeren league. should be a 10 ten comp, but will take someone from outside of league to make these t cuts. People have short memorys as not long ago marion was in the top 4 power houses of league and will be again soon.

[ORDoubleBlues]

Who was the football visionary who decided that Div. I and Div II should combine.

The same one that decided they didn't want certain clubs involved anymore. i.e. they knew most of the Div 2 clubs would fold/move on within 10 years.

[ORDoubleBlues]

this happened in our league in the 80,s (hills league) not one div2 team defeated a div 1 team. that showed how much difference there was from the bottom side in div1 to the top side in div2. if i remember 3 ff,s had a 100 goals up by halfway through the season. 40goals to 5goals most weeks

Not disagreeing with this assessment but it'd be fair to say that the gap now isn't as great as it was then.

[leftrightout]

[quote="Cove07"]Cove will be giving it a big crack this year. Probably Bombers last season (I could be wrong) so they would want to win it this year. Outstanding midfield with the inclusion of Josh Vick from South Adelaide to join the likes of White and Fudge. Forward line very good with Bomber, Ramsay and Weideman and that little bald bloke. Backline maybe one or two quality players short.quote]

Cove07, that little bald bloke, are you talking bout yourself? I was also wondering if you have caught up with the fella from the 2002 GF from Uni, you know the one, first 5 minutes of the game!!!!!! Mate u a freak and the medical is still named after you!!

[stampy]

i find your comments and views very interesting virgin old mate and i do agree with a lot of what you say - in a nut shell the league is a joke with the top 5 or 6 miles ahead of the next 6 and then the also rans like aldinga/hackham. A couple of years ago i was an advocate of getting rid of brighton,marion,morpy parks - how could they be deemed southern? as you know i was involved up until recently with a middle table club and fair dinkum the people who run the joint wear rose colour glasses with crap like "we'll be right this year" we are getting so and so and this one and that one and in the end they end up getting a couple of cast offs from the stronger clubs which all amounts to nothing and nothing improves, but they are still in there competing so who are we to say which cluibs dont deserve to be in the league? as long as they meet certain criteria it will continue being the same old same old and those poor souls at my club will continue to live in false hope that their club will be great again and they will win flags. one last thing how can clubs like lonsdale christies beach porties morphett vale and hackham all prosper in the long term when they are so close in proximity to each other?

[dont think do]

Understand the comment about to many teams in one area, howerver when I played at North Pines in the early 90's the same was said.

Example, North Pines,Parallowie, Salisbury North, Salisbury West, Salisbury, Para Hills, Bramha Lodge and Central United, while you cant say that these clubs are power house clubs, they are all still in there some how.

Not sure whatt he answer is for the SFL, as were can clubs go? any clubs south of Sturt Rd wont be able to entre the SAANF.

[qwerty]

All games went according to plan on the weekend except perhaps the reynella v porties game?

Cove still going great guns will it be there year?

Noarlunga probably find out how far off the pace they are when they play morphies this week.


Interesting comments above, a smaller competition would definately be the go and make the league stronger. Going on the increase of juniors at noarlunga over the past few years (possibly porties also) in the future they should have a lot more depth in all grades finally catching up with reynella, morphies, vallys, cove, etc who have large populations and schools around there areas. Will it take time for adinga to start to see the effects of an increase in population around there area.

I can see both sides to the story ie to many clubs in a small area weaker league vs less clubs stronger league.

[steiger]

First time reader of SFL forum and as an ex player of Christies in the early 70's, it is disappointing to read about the problems with the league over there. Back in my time, the league was quite strong and Christies was a force.
Clubs as I recall were Christies, Port Noarlunga, Reynella, Morphett Vale, McLaren Vale, McLaren Vale, Noarlunga and Willunga and that order wouldn't be too far from the strength of the teams in my 2 years there.
Coach of Christies was Thready, Mick Fitz at Port Noarlunga etc etc and there were a heap of name players and ex league players which made the comp the strong one it was.
Good luck to you all and I hope you find a solution to the issues outlined over the last few pages. It won't be easy and you won't satisfy everyone

[Cove07]

Leftrightout - You have definately got the wrong person.

[Valleysvirgin]

i find your comments and views very interesting virgin old mate and i do agree with a lot of what you say - in a nut shell the league is a joke with the top 5 or 6 miles ahead of the next 6 and then the also rans like aldinga/hackham. A couple of years ago i was an advocate of getting rid of brighton,marion,morpy parks - how could they be deemed southern? as you know i was involved up until recently with a middle table club and fair dinkum the people who run the joint wear rose colour glasses with crap like "we'll be right this year" we are getting so and so and this one and that one and in the end they end up getting a couple of cast offs from the stronger clubs which all amounts to nothing and nothing improves, but they are still in there competing so who are we to say which cluibs dont deserve to be in the league? as long as they meet certain criteria it will continue being the same old same old and those poor souls at my club will continue to live in false hope that their club will be great again and they will win flags. one last thing how can clubs like lonsdale christies beach porties morphett vale and hackham all prosper in the long term when they are so close in proximity to each other?

As I said Stampy I hate seeing clubs fold...any club. People do look at their own backyard with rose colored glasses because they love the place and the supporters and the memories etc but reality has to sneak in there sometime.
At the very least Lonsdale and Hackham have to go. In the case of Lonsdale,they are based at a High School yet last year did not have one single junior player on their list. Hackham is just an embarrassment - statues with jumpers on I have heard them described and having experienced their performances I completely agree. There is not one player in either side that would make Reynella,MV.BDOS or Happy Valley's C Grade side.Not one.
Instead of whingeing about who and how many players and sponsors go to Reynella,Morphies,the Valley etc perhaps some of the people in the less affluent clubs should go and find out why they are going there? That would be a good start if they are really serious about their future...but, then again, that would be like admitting there is a problem which I think re-touches on your very point.

[Old and Grey]

Ah, blessed with juniors of infintie proportions are these three club you like to keep mentioning. Can Aldinga and the likes wait long enough for their areas to populate and age to bolster their numbers?! Is the league's cap of 50 players per junior side fair and reasonable? How many kids are missing out on playing football.
I think good on Hackam from coming back a couple of years ago from not having an A or B grade to having both running again.
With the advent of the Socceroo's playing in the world cup this year chances are some of these top club's will start to feel the pinch with juniors taking up other sports as they are not able to get a game of Aussie Rules.

[BM]

Holy cow a cap of 50 junior players per team. NEMJFA has a cap a lot lower that that. The team I coach has over 30 kids and I struggle to give everyone a game and hopefully still be able to win a few games for the boys. Hard to know how much of an effect the world cup will have on the kids. I can only speak for my group of lads and a majority of them love footy and loathe soccer. For mine it is more to do with the parents and what they want their kids to do and what the family can afford eg subs, shorts etc. I know my club has the lowest subs in the comp and that is a factor.

[the observer]

To start the process it need the League to come down firm
Clubs with two under 14's under 16's should lose this option
All of a sudden 60 other odd kids will be looking for a game of footy
They keep saying they will be lost to the game and wont go to these so called low clubs
but its never been tested. It is then up to these clubs to make them enjoy and want to stay
Give it a go
Brighton have had a excess for years Marion have struggle to fill all colts side

[Valleysvirgin]

To start the process it need the League to come down firm
Clubs with two under 14's under 16's should lose this option
All of a sudden 60 other odd kids will be looking for a game of footy
They keep saying they will be lost to the game and wont go to these so called low clubs
but its never been tested. It is then up to these clubs to make them enjoy and want to stay
Give it a go
Brighton have had a excess for years Marion have struggle to fill all colts side

With all due respect observer,that is a very naive and blinkered view.
By locking out the clubs who have actually got off their backsides and created a vibrant environment that kids would like to play in you are then also rewarding clubs who have done nothing with your suggestion. If you look at Cove,for example,this season they are fielding two sides in 2/3's,4/5's & 6/7's. Where are those kids going to go when they are eligible for 14's? With your system those kids would be lost to footy as there is nowhere even remotely close for them to go (as an alternative).The closest clubs are Reynella and BDOS and you'd have them in your sights as they have plenty of juniors.
Yes, Marion do struggle to fill sides in all grades. But if the example I saw at their ground last year whereby adults were cracking cans of VB open at the start of the 2/3's game (9.30am) and the example of Aldinga parents knocking back ciders at the start of the corresponding game the week before is where their standards lay then the sooner they are removed the better.

[GET A KICK]

Valley virgin you make me laugh, how can someone who has been sacked by two different clubs in 2 years have such strong opinions...... dont you realise what you say isnt respected?? Two sackings would make most people realise this! They were both for players not liking you!
Your comments show how out of touch you are, the game is about getting out there and enjoying it with your mates, sure some of these teams will never win the flag, but does this really matter?? If you are so concerned about what is happening why dont you put your hand up to be on the leagues committee or do you know where youre not wanted??
All clubs may not be in the perfect situation at the moment but i can see that they are heading in the right direction. We all dont live in a perfect world and choose a team that is having success at the moment. Your comments on some of the "struggling" clubs couldnt be further from the truth. Get off your high horse and realise that not everything you think is right and that if you dont know about a club you cant just make things up because that is how you view it.

[Maddogmike]

leftrightout? The heater in the medical room you mean?
How is Dale Digger Bradley going out at Cove this year?

[Sherrin]

hows this then

Div 1 Div 2
M Vale Marion
Reynella Flagstaff
C Beach Lonsdale
Noarlunga Aldinga
Port Noar S. Hawks
Brighton Morph Park
Cove * Then pinch a Mitchell Park, Kenilworth, Flinders Uni or even Milang
Happy Valley to make an even 8.

*Benefit of 8 teams and 8 teams is that success comes around quicker in each Div and 6, even 7 sides are in running for finals to late in season. Top 4 to settle it.
* Have U/17's and U/14's instead of the 3 grades currently existing.
* Perhaps zone schools to clubs (keeping them within SANFL districts)

[the observer]

Valleys Virgin
Maybe your wrong I applaud teams who get off there backside and encourage kids to one club but the realisation that most kids in the second team may not or do not go on with there football and is it fair to these bottom clubs. Been in this situation with clubs i have been at and causes agro animosity and problems associated with selection . extra volunteers and also the bottom clubs are unfairly tagged with a bottom club syndrome that they have to twice as hard as some clubs. Yes you applaud teams like cove who have done some great work but four years ago was nearly about to fold and was tagged with the same as all bottom clubs today.
This has never been tried because of the argument that you have bought forward a will continue until some teams bite the dust or the leauge gets strong.

[Jono]

Left Right Out - Sounds like you might be having a crack at a Cove player with this div 1 gf and medical room.....not to sure i would be doing that i reckon there a huge chance to win the gf this year......On results really there the stand out.......They beat Porties by 10 goals who have since beaten Reynella by 8goals who beat Morphett Vale by 5 points........ Interesting!!!
As for Dale Bradeley we played Cove 2 weeks ago and he was playing b grade

[BubblesOfBlue]

Cove will go very close this year they really improved come finals last year aswell, enjoyed watching them beat noarlunga at marion in the finals last year