2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

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2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby the joker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:34 pm

Looks like Starc will hold his position as it looks that James Pattinson is set to be rested for this test.
Unless they take MJ over MS for the match.
But their has to be two spinners
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby whufc » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:47 pm

Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Jim05 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:33 pm

whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Squids » Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:19 pm

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke


I assume you are talking about O'Keefe?

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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:16 am

Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke


What a comment. Any spinner would have been collared by Dhoni in that last test. Lyon has good control but needs to be a little more patient and take some pace off a few more deliveries. It would also have helped Lyon to have another tweaker bowling at the other end as well IMO.

The long line of people lining up to have a crack at Lyon is an even bigger joke. Replace him with spinner number ninety seven since Warne pulled the pin? A bit late for that with the Ashes coming up this year. No one is champing at the bit as the obvious replacement for Lyon so how about backing the bloke wearing the Baggy Green.

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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Gozu » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:28 am

Lyon shits all over O'Keefe but then again Jim05 used to say O'Keefe was better than Hauritz even when Hauritz was the leading wicket-taker in the 2009/10 Test series against Pakistan.
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Jim05 » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:57 am

Gozu wrote:Lyon shits all over O'Keefe but then again Jim05 used to say O'Keefe was better than Hauritz even when Hauritz was the leading wicket-taker in the 2009/10 Test series against Pakistan.

Didnt say drop Lyon, he is currently the best we have but SOK is a far better option than Doherty or Maxwell if we are going to play 2 spinners.
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby cheetah » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:23 am

We were only beaten by a right handed gilchrist. Lyon more than held his own. Bring in Mitch Johnson. Smash a few of those spinners hands and see how they go bowling.
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:46 am

Squids wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke

I assume you are talking about O'Keefe?

17 wickets in 7 games


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Just looking at the SS wickets by spinners-
O'keefe 17 wickets in 7 games @ 26.76
Hauritz 13 in 5 @ 34.07
Agar 12 in 3 @ 28.33
Zampa 10 in 3 @ 23.90
Beer 8 in 4 @ 46.37
Ahmed 7 in 1 @ 23.14
Maxwell 7 in 3 @ 25.42
Lyon 7 in 5 @ 71.42
Boyce 6 in 5 @ 66.33
Krejza 5 in 4 @ 73.40
Doherty 2 in 4 @ 80
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby CENTURION » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:15 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke


What a comment. Any spinner would have been collared by Dhoni in that last test. Lyon has good control but needs to be a little more patient and take some pace off a few more deliveries. It would also have helped Lyon to have another tweaker bowling at the other end as well IMO.

The long line of people lining up to have a crack at Lyon is an even bigger joke. Replace him with spinner number ninety seven since Warne pulled the pin? A bit late for that with the Ashes coming up this year. No one is champing at the bit as the obvious replacement for Lyon so how about backing the bloke wearing the Baggy Green.

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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:30 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke


What a comment. Any spinner would have been collared by Dhoni in that last test. Lyon has good control but needs to be a little more patient and take some pace off a few more deliveries. It would also have helped Lyon to have another tweaker bowling at the other end as well IMO.

The long line of people lining up to have a crack at Lyon is an even bigger joke. Replace him with spinner number ninety seven since Warne pulled the pin? A bit late for that with the Ashes coming up this year. No one is champing at the bit as the obvious replacement for Lyon so how about backing the bloke wearing the Baggy Green.

regards,

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What my point more is, is that if Lyon finishes with another 2/200 and Doherty happens to get a 5 fa etc etc, their is the real chance they may go with the 'in form' spinner straight up in the Ashes. Remembering Lyon didn't have a great Aussie summer either.
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby the joker » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:25 am

No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby CoverKing » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:28 am

the joker wrote:No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England


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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:40 am

the joker wrote:No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England


Agree and now it may come down to who bowls better in these next two matches between Lyon and Doherty
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:54 am

CoverKing wrote:
the joker wrote:No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England


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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby whufc » Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:03 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
the joker wrote:No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England


Leg spinner*

Fawad ahmed is being rushed through the citizenship qualification to be an Australian before the ashes tour. Sooner the better.


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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:43 pm

Was anyone else under the impression that Shane Watson had given up bowling for good?
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby MAY-Z » Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:06 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Squids wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
whufc wrote:Huge test for Lyon, you would think Doherty will get a crack this test, whoever finishes the series better out the two will most likely get first crack in the Ashes.

Both are crap, how can the leading spinner in the shield this season not even get a gig to India, what a joke

I assume you are talking about O'Keefe?

17 wickets in 7 games


no thanks jeff

Just looking at the SS wickets by spinners-
O'keefe 17 wickets in 7 games @ 26.76
Hauritz 13 in 5 @ 34.07
Agar 12 in 3 @ 28.33
Zampa 10 in 3 @ 23.90
Beer 8 in 4 @ 46.37
Ahmed 7 in 1 @ 23.14
Maxwell 7 in 3 @ 25.42
Lyon 7 in 5 @ 71.42
Boyce 6 in 5 @ 66.33
Krejza 5 in 4 @ 73.40
Doherty 2 in 4 @ 80


o'keefe did get 8 of those in one gameso if you take that out you have 9 wickets in 6 matches - hardly emphatic form for test cricket
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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:56 pm

whufc wrote:
What my point more is, is that if Lyon finishes with another 2/200 and Doherty happens to get a 5 fa etc etc, their is the real chance they may go with the 'in form' spinner straight up in the Ashes. Remembering Lyon didn't have a great Aussie summer either.


Yep a good point too, Lyon is under pressure to perform no doubt. Traditionally offies don't do that well in Aussie conditions (Yardley?) and it's no secret that Lyon is behind Swan. It's hard to forget that Lyon has had a poor summer as many are in the habit of pointing it out. I reckon he can bowl and will bowl well in England or at least better in England. Whether that is good enough remains to be seen.

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Re: 2nd test vs India Hyderabad 2nd of march

Postby Failed Creation » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:49 pm

whufc wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
CoverKing wrote:
the joker wrote:No matter what happens in India, they will want a off spinner in England


Leg spinner*

Fawad ahmed is being rushed through the citizenship qualification to be an Australian before the ashes tour. Sooner the better.


Really!!!!

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