Tim Nielsen

[Dutchy]

well we have him until after the World Cup in 2011...he signed an extention to his contract just before the Boxing day test match

His manager has done a fantastic job for him!

[Booney]

How come the coach is not under a huge amount of pressure at the moment??? Every other coach is under the pump with average sides and here Nielsen escapes a lot of flack. Since he's been there things have gone off the rails. I think he is giving punter to much control and having double standards between the senior players and the new kids. Thats just a rumour I hear within the group.

I take it then you re "within the group" yourself? Or is it just hearsay?

Anyway,I think the Australian team has just been narrowly beaten in a Test series by a team at the top of its game that boasts a quality bowling attack which we have not faced since the 2005 Ashes series.What happened there?

Our bowling stocks for this series were down with Stuart Clarke being injured.If we did have him I think we would have been better placed to have taken 20 wickets in Perth and Melbourne.

On Neilsen,I think he doing a good job.The selectors on the other hand have to answer some tough questions.

Siddle has done ok in the Test arena,but Hilfenhaus must be given a go IMO.
Hauritz is a defensive bowler at best and Krezja must be in the side ahead of Hauritz.Sure,Krezja may not hit the spot every ball but he rips it and tries to get wickets.

So put Clarke and Krezja in for Hauritz and Siddle.

Mr.Cricket is out of nick but will bounce back.

The other issue is Symonds,does he really want to play for Australia anymore?

All in all,being a little harsh on Neilsen for mine.When I see him next I'll send him to this thread....

[Lightning McQueen]

We have been outplayed this summer by a better, more flexible South African team. They are fantastic, yesterday, when I seen Boucher out and Morne Morkel in, I thought then we were going to be shagged. Boucher is a more than capable one day player but their line-up looked stronger in my opinion with him missing out, they had 7 bowlers and had Albie in at 7.

[Rik E Boy]

All in all,being a little harsh on Neilsen for mine.When I see him next I'll send him to this thread....

I for one would welcome his response. Even if it is a two word one.

regards,

REB

[Dutchy]

On Neilsen,I think he doing a good job...

Those wins against the Bangers and Kiwis must be on the front page of his resume

[untapped ability]

I dont think he is up to it

[Killa]

How come the coach is not under a huge amount of pressure at the moment??? Every other coach is under the pump with average sides and here Nielsen escapes a lot of flack. Since he's been there things have gone off the rails. I think he is giving punter to much control and having double standards between the senior players and the new kids. Thats just a rumour I hear within the group.

I take it then you re "within the group" yourself? Or is it just hearsay?

Anyway,I think the Australian team has just been narrowly beaten in a Test series by a team at the top of its game that boasts a quality bowling attack which we have not faced since the 2005 Ashes series.What happened there?

Our bowling stocks for this series were down with Stuart Clarke being injured.If we did have him I think we would have been better placed to have taken 20 wickets in Perth and Melbourne.

On Neilsen,I think he doing a good job.The selectors on the other hand have to answer some tough questions.

Siddle has done ok in the Test arena,but Hilfenhaus must be given a go IMO.
Hauritz is a defensive bowler at best and Krezja must be in the side ahead of Hauritz.Sure,Krezja may not hit the spot every ball but he rips it and tries to get wickets.

So put Clarke and Krezja in for Hauritz and Siddle.

Mr.Cricket is out of nick but will bounce back.

The other issue is Symonds,does he really want to play for Australia anymore?

All in all,being a little harsh on Neilsen for mine.When I see him next I'll send him to this thread....

So you would drop someone can worry the SA and who got MOM.

And Krezja is shite I would play holland or smith before krezja

[Adelaide Hawk]

I just don't feel comfortable having a Carlton supporter as coach of Australia

[welly]

I just think the aussies have just lacked imagination and haven't responded to the game plans and pressure they put on us. Its to hard to ask the captain to find these answers where the coaches job is to work out a game plan to combat the oppositions and get the best out of his players individually. Has he done any of these??????????? Thats the question!

[welly]

I'm happy to open this topic again people. I believe Nielsen lets senior players run there own game and his job is to bring balls to training and set out cones for fielding drills. The senior players have all struggled and if it wasn't for the young batsman scoring runs in tests and one dayers we'd be even worse off. He needs to deflate there ego's and coach them not just look good behind the nets. Any thoughts on this????? Jamie Siddons would be a great choice for me.

[smac]

One post says he needs to get more out of players, the next gives him no credit for players that played well in the tests. Which is it?

[welly]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

[Dirko]

I just don't feel comfortable having a Carlton supporter as coach of Australia

Nor having a selector that's a Carlton supporter too

[smac]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

Right, so being in the Australian side is bad for your cricket? Got it.

[Dogwatcher]

I'm just concerned about the fact he's a WWT supporter!

[welly]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

Right, so being in the Australian side is bad for your cricket? Got it.

Exactly right, it shouldn't be it should furthur your development. You proved my point if Nielsen does his job and coaches senior players, not allow them to run there own race and not feel and look intimidated by them then young guys will benefit greatly and the senior players will get there fingers out and play how they should. John Buchanan was great at this and tested senior players. That was his strength. Nielsen is a glorified catch hitter throw down specialist.

[rod_rooster]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

Right, so being in the Australian side is bad for your cricket? Got it.

Exactly right, it shouldn't be it should furthur your development. You proved my point if Nielsen does his job and coaches senior players, not allow them to run there own race and not feel and look intimidated by them then young guys will benefit greatly and the senior players will get there fingers out and play how they should. John Buchanan was great at this and tested senior players. That was his strength. Nielsen is a glorified catch hitter throw down specialist.

You can hardly compare Nielsen to Buchanan. Buchanan was "coach" of one of the strongest sides to ever play the game. How much do you reckon he coached guys like McGrath, Warne, Waugh, Ponting, Langer, Hayden, Gillespie etc.? Ask Warne what he thinks of Buchanan and coaches at international level in general. You could have made John Howard coach of that side and you would have got the same result. Seriously if you were playing in the Australian side who would you have gone to for advice, Warne or Buchanan?

[Pup]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

Right, so being in the Australian side is bad for your cricket? Got it.

Exactly right, it shouldn't be it should furthur your development. You proved my point if Nielsen does his job and coaches senior players, not allow them to run there own race and not feel and look intimidated by them then young guys will benefit greatly and the senior players will get there fingers out and play how they should. John Buchanan was great at this and tested senior players. That was his strength. Nielsen is a glorified catch hitter throw down specialist.

You can hardly compare Nielsen to Buchanan. Buchanan was "coach" of one of the strongest sides to ever play the game. How much do you reckon he coached guys like McGrath, Warne, Waugh, Ponting, Langer, Hayden, Gillespie etc.? Ask Warne what he thinks of Buchanan and coaches at international level in general. You could have made John Howard coach of that side and you would have got the same result. Seriously if you were playing in the Australian side who would you have gone to for advice, Warne or Buchanan?

I guess that depends on what advice you are after RR.

Management, Technical Skills and Preperation i would look to Buck.

On Field Tactics, How to Handle Pressure and Read the Opposition or the Art of Leg Spin Bowling you would look to Shane. There is many different sides to a coach, while Warney did not need it some players do need the sort of guidance and influence that John Buchanan gave them throughout that period.

[smac]

They did well because they were new and not all caught up in the ego's of the senior players and the coach

Right, so being in the Australian side is bad for your cricket? Got it.

Exactly right, it shouldn't be it should furthur your development. You proved my point if Nielsen does his job and coaches senior players, not allow them to run there own race and not feel and look intimidated by them then young guys will benefit greatly and the senior players will get there fingers out and play how they should. John Buchanan was great at this and tested senior players. That was his strength. Nielsen is a glorified catch hitter throw down specialist.

I don't think I proved your point at all.

If it were not a good place to be, they wouldn't have done well. If you think the coach has an ego problem then you are quite mistaken.

[welly]

Pup you are right, and thats what this level of cricket is. The profile the players have, the cash they make it's all about the mind set and pressures.

I didn't say coach has ego problems the seniors players do and the coach is letting there ego's effect their cricket. Pup and Katitch is prime example. Katitch was right. Also when players refer to themselves in the third person during interviews you know there ego is taking over. Prime examples, Willie Mason, Wendel Sailor and Michael Clarke has been doing it. It is funny though.