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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby dee man » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:18 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
The_Informer wrote:
dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


:shock: :roll: :? :?

Im with Informer on this one! :shock: Dutchy hasn't set the world alight this year with CU, infact im sure they were registering better performances last year. From what I seen earlier in the year, the general feel and culture around the club doesn't appear much if at all different...

obviously you guys didnt read what i based my list on
i have seen and heard what dutchy is doing at the club and like others clubs it will take time
but the cufc i watched in the second half on saturday was a totally different club to the one i had known
even to the point that when a few spectators wanted to give it the old fashion way they did things they were quickly put in their place by their own spectators
that is a great start and they will reap the results
not every club can go out and buy teams but he as a few of the other teams have gone about it from education and teaching a new culture
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby dee man » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:21 pm

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dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


you fell well short of the 20 you were talking about there big Dee

ran out of time this morning but i will make sure i add the last 6
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:21 pm

dee man wrote:obviously you guys didnt read what i based my list on
i have seen and heard what dutchy is doing at the club and like others clubs it will take time
but the cufc i watched in the second half on saturday was a totally different club to the one i had known
even to the point that when a few spectators wanted to give it the old fashion way they did things they were quickly put in their place by their own spectators
that is a great start and they will reap the results
not every club can go out and buy teams but he as a few of the other teams have gone about it from education and teaching a new culture

I think you have a man-crush on Holland! :lol:
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:22 pm

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Number 25 Heritage Guensey did not require washing ;)


We auctioned off the 21 playing guernsey's from Saturday, they were made especially for this match and no one was allowed to see them before they were used.
They looked alright, a lot like our usual ones with some writing commemorating our 100th year, number 19 went for $4000. :shock:
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby dee man » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:30 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
dee man wrote:obviously you guys didnt read what i based my list on
i have seen and heard what dutchy is doing at the club and like others clubs it will take time
but the cufc i watched in the second half on saturday was a totally different club to the one i had known
even to the point that when a few spectators wanted to give it the old fashion way they did things they were quickly put in their place by their own spectators
that is a great start and they will reap the results
not every club can go out and buy teams but he as a few of the other teams have gone about it from education and teaching a new culture

I think you have a man-crush on Holland! :lol:

maybe just respect what he is doing down their
i am sure that what dutchy is doing at cufc is what i would expect wayne knowles to be trying to do with IF
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Executive Member » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:33 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
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Number 25 Heritage Guensey did not require washing ;)


We auctioned off the 21 playing guernsey's from Saturday, they were made especially for this match and no one was allowed to see them before they were used.
They looked alright, a lot like our usual ones with some writing commemorating our 100th year, number 19 went for $4000. :shock:


we are doing at our Gala Dinner - number 1 & 50 will be framed and auctioned with the other 48 being silent auctioned

Not sure we have anyone who will pay $4,000 though :shock: hope so :lol:
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:33 pm

dee man wrote:maybe just respect what he is doing down their
i am sure that what dutchy is doing at cufc is what i would expect wayne knowles to be trying to do with IF

Hit a nerve did I son? :lol:
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby carey » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:04 pm

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dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :? :?


So what do you base your rolling eyes and other remarks on Informer?
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby carey » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:09 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Im with Informer on this one! :shock: Dutchy hasn't set the world alight this year with CU, infact im sure they were registering better performances last year. From what I seen earlier in the year, the general feel and culture around the club doesn't appear much if at all different...


Coming from Ingle Farm and what i seen from them you must be kidding me Phantom? :roll: Feel and culture you blokes had a guy get nearly stabbed is that Waynes fault? of course it isnt. And on the results had you of known our playing list for the first part of the season i may have taking on board but seen's as tho you have no idea about it I'll just let that slide.
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby The Informer » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:36 pm

carey wrote:
The_Informer wrote:
dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :? :?


So what do you base your rolling eyes and other remarks on Informer?


Based upon i dont think you can judge it after 8 or so weeks. I know you are up against it this year with the amount of outs you have and that will change at the end of the season so i just think it is a bit early.
I know the culture you will try and introduce just will take longer than 8 weeks.
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby zedman » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:43 pm

its not always initially about wins when you start coaching at a club PG (unless you already have a top list in place or went on a buying bonanza)..sure..thats the result you want..win games..but you have to put a good foundation in place, set up your benchmarks and rules, see what you really have got to play with and weed out dissenters and "problem" players etc..then add in some big doses of luck..takes some time :)

bucky francis is a great pick deeman..div 6 - div 4 and fairly cemented in that division and pushing higher..great influence on the HFC
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby The Informer » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:50 pm

zedman wrote:its not always initially about wins when you start coaching at a club PG (unless you already have a top list in place or went on a buying bonanza)..sure..thats the result you want..win games..but you have to put a good foundation in place, set up your benchmarks and rules, see what you really have got to play with and weed out dissenters and "problem" players etc..then add in some big doses of luck..takes some time :)

bucky francis is a great pick deeman..div 6 - div 4 and fairly cemented in that division and pushing higher..great influence on the HFC


Which is y i think it will take Dutchy more that one season to achieve what he has set out. Once he gets more known out there and gets totally control of the football side, he will achieve goals.
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Browny25 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:37 pm

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Payney has certainly helped turn our club around since he has been in charge.


Did you have a bad game Saturday Bear?


I've never had a good game LM
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby morell » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:47 pm

Browny25 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Browny25 wrote:
Payney has certainly helped turn our club around since he has been in charge.


Did you have a bad game Saturday Bear?


I've never had a good game LM
You kicked 6 goals on me one day. To date the highest bag my direct opponent has scored.

Not that I am a bitter.
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Executive Member » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:48 pm

morell wrote:
Browny25 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Browny25 wrote:
Payney has certainly helped turn our club around since he has been in charge.


Did you have a bad game Saturday Bear?


I've never had a good game LM
You kicked 6 goals on me one day. To date the highest bag my direct opponent has scored.

Not that I am a bitter.


You should be 8)
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Browny25 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:49 pm

morell wrote:
Browny25 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Browny25 wrote:
Payney has certainly helped turn our club around since he has been in charge.


Did you have a bad game Saturday Bear?


I've never had a good game LM
You kicked 6 goals on me one day. To date the highest bag my direct opponent has scored.

Not that I am a bitter.


It was actually 8 ;)
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Executive Member » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:55 pm

S Brown - 3 votes :lol:
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:56 pm

Browny25 wrote:
It was actually 8 ;)


But who's counting ;) .
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby carey » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:59 pm

The_Informer wrote:
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dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :? :?


So what do you base your rolling eyes and other remarks on Informer?


Based upon i dont think you can judge it after 8 or so weeks. I know you are up against it this year with the amount of outs you have and that will change at the end of the season so i just think it is a bit early.
I know the culture you will try and introduce just will take longer than 8 weeks.


Fair call.

For what its worth i would have your A grade coach in that list...
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Re: 20 most influential coaches

Postby The Informer » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:12 pm

The_Informer wrote:
carey wrote:
The_Informer wrote:
dee man wrote:in no particular order but to me these guys will have or already have had the biggest impact on clubs,imo
i have based it on what they have brought to clubs,changed at clubs or what direction they are taking clubs
some have had good results on field and some are heading their clubs so that they can get good results
brahma lodge carey payne
cufc shaun holland
clg steve zweck
fitzroy darrin wilson
glenunga chad bourke
hectorville darren francis
hope valley charlie wintle
kilburn jamie thomas
north haven mathew rowlands
portland ricky pearce
salisbury west gary howden
unley troy hall
west croydon mat mcpherson
lockleys brett leonard


:shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :? :?


So what do you base your rolling eyes and other remarks on Informer?


Based upon i dont think you can judge it after 8 or so weeks. I know you are up against it this year with the amount of outs you have and that will change at the end of the season so i just think it is a bit early.
I know the culture you will try and introduce just will take longer than 8 weeks.


Fair call.

For what its worth i would have your A grade coach in that list...[/quote]

Im not doubting your ability to lead guys at all. I for one know that you are very good at that. I just think it is going to take you a few seasons before you can achieve what u want.
My coach is shit, he just has good blokes around him.
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