HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Tooting Bec]

just Owen doing the grab for cash again. I wonder how the hills board decided this one? With the uncertain economic times surrounding us at the moment you would think the prices would stay the same or even come down. I for one, am going to have to take my $900 from Rudd and co and use it to go to local footy games this year. Ridiculous.

[Howard]

Hey toot, not sure if you are a player, if you are and are not training although you know it's on - says a lot about why Bridgewater struggles, blokes not prepared to actually work a bit harder to try and succeed. I've used this word to describe Bridgewater's efforts before - pathetic

Mate you have a point about not attending training but to call the entire club pathetic because individuals aren't training is harsh and not called for.
I agree the only way to get improvement especially considering how far back the Raiders are coming from is through hard work but don't generalise as there are plenty of players, coaches and committee people busting there arses for the cause. Maybe step back and realise they have a long way to go but everyone has to start somewhere so how about on this topic you keep your pathetic opinions to yourself.[/quote]

Ok, I'll stop using the word pathetic to describe Bridgewater's efforts, I'll try and be more specific with my comments, in case I upset anyone. But CV you have actually agreed with me, "everyone has to start somewhere", my point is that exactly, the Raiders have far too many blokes not prepared to go that extra yard, that's not to say they don't have plenty of guys trying to do the right thing, they do, but it will take EVERYONE to get on board and stop bludging on those that are "busting their arse". (This is not exclusive to Bridgewater by the way) Especially "considering how far back the Raiders are coming" -

[The Muddy Roo]

There seems to be many posts rubbishing the lower ranked sides. Suggestions that their players, coaches & committee dont work as hard as the top sides. Can i just say that that is a load of cr@p! When sitting at the top its easy to say your the hardest working club, but in reality your probably not ... your just winning more often quite largely due to the fact your players are currently better at football. Every club has down years and its not cause the club stops working hard, its the player turnover. Name a coach that doesnt do all he can to win each week? Name a committee member from any club that doesnt put their own time into making their club successful? Lets say Bridgewater or lobethal win a flag this season ... does that mean they worked harder than Lofty or Blackwood? NO ... it probably means their turnover of players was just better at playing football. Clubs have to work hard to climb the ladder same as clubs have to work hard to stay up the top.

[Holy Grail]

Heard a rumour last years under 17's mail medalist Tom Pope is making a move to Mt. Barker, can anyone confirm this?? this would mean both Pope brothers have jumped ship at ironbank, big loss for the club if they are leaving.

[GetTheSherrin]

TMR, agree to some extent with ur comments, but still think to get a team from bottom to top in 2yrs and continuing then ur club/commitee are working harder than others. always sriving for that one more sponsor or recruit can be pivital in a clubs success and i think alot of club fall short there.. if ur turnover of players is better than other sides then i would say that uv worked pretty hard to get them. not too many premiership sides are put together by fluke..

[Gervais]

was at the balhannah pub last nite and caught up with a couple of bridgy players. seems theyve been recruiting strongly. heard one of the fosdikes from norwood has signed along with the mclean chap already mentioned. also told more names about to sign.

things still quiet on the onkas front. seems to be more leaving than coming. can anyone update onka movements.

[Amateur Footy]

Heard a rumour last years under 17's mail medalist Tom Pope is making a move to Mt. Barker, can anyone confirm this?? this would mean both Pope brothers have jumped ship at ironbank, big loss for the club if they are leaving.

Their father is involved at Mt Barker I believe. Had been putting pressure on Tom to move for a while. Haven't heard any confirmation of this but wouldn't be surprised. Family before mates I guess.

[ftandsq]

was at the balhannah pub last nite and caught up with a couple of bridgy players. seems theyve been recruiting strongly. heard one of the fosdikes from norwood has signed along with the mclean chap already mentioned. also told more names about to sign.

things still quiet on the onkas front. seems to be more leaving than coming. can anyone update onka movements.

Caught up with EX Onkas player over weekend, he was saying,
Outs-
Dubois, Both Russells, Contin, Smart, Gardner, Sampson, Ryan, think Norton maybe aswell and dunno said some more but cant remember.

Ins- Klun, and some Aldinga boys with coach!

He wasnt all that positive about ex club!

[The Muddy Roo]

TMR, agree to some extent with ur comments, but still think to get a team from bottom to top in 2yrs and continuing then ur club/commitee are working harder than others. always sriving for that one more sponsor or recruit can be pivital in a clubs success and i think alot of club fall short there.. if ur turnover of players is better than other sides then i would say that uv worked pretty hard to get them. not too many premiership sides are put together by fluke..

Valid points GTS. My comments weren't directed at Mt Lofty alone, but your passion to your club obvious. Continuing on, another thing that influences a club success is $'s. I would suggest that rebuilding a club from bottom to top would be all but impossible without finance - you could be the hardest working club in the country but if you dont have it you'll struggle. Its dissapointing that hard working country clubs are folding due to this reason.

[Amateur Footy]

TMR, agree to some extent with ur comments, but still think to get a team from bottom to top in 2yrs and continuing then ur club/commitee are working harder than others. always sriving for that one more sponsor or recruit can be pivital in a clubs success and i think alot of club fall short there.. if ur turnover of players is better than other sides then i would say that uv worked pretty hard to get them. not too many premiership sides are put together by fluke..

Valid points GTS. My comments weren't directed at Mt Lofty alone, but your passion to your club obvious. Continuing on, another thing that influences a club success is $'s. I would suggest that rebuilding a club from bottom to top would be all but impossible without finance - you could be the hardest working club in the country but if you dont have it you'll struggle. Its dissapointing that hard working country clubs are folding due to this reason.

Spot on TMR. You won't find too many teams at the top that don't have 'special' sponsorship from people who are putting in much more than they ever expect to get back in business from the club. Good committee / big funding is a good combination, but a disgrace that it's required in Hills football.

[MONTE CRISTO]

Totally agree AM. We have hard working people at all clubs running around raising money to pay footballs mercenaries but unfortunately it is here to stay. That bloke who is financing Torrens Valley in Div 2 might be satisfying his own needs but he will eventually kill that competition. In Div 1 we have a few more avenues available than them and its not quite as bad but still sad that footballers have to be paid to do something they would do for nothing if all clubs in SA said there will be no payments!

[ducks]

is there any one in the hills that really earns what they get paid or are they all over paid ?

[Amateur Footy]

is there any one in the hills that really earns what they get paid or are they all over paid ?

What's it got to do with Hills? It happens everywhere. Plenty of country clubs would pay more as blokes have to travel further.

[ducks]

just wondering on peoples thoughts if the players that get paid are they earning there money or are they over paid?

[Tooting Bec]

just wondering on peoples thoughts if the players that get paid are they earning there money or are they over paid?

It's a pretty easy lesson in economics isn't it. Supply and demand? The lower grades want to improve themselves so maybe they will dish out more for a player who at a top side isn't quite worth that amount of money. I remember when guys were getting $200 a game in the mid nineties and that was huge cash back then. Now 200 bucks won't entice footballers who know that they can get double if not more at another club, even though they may not enjoy the same level of success.

[Bat Pad]

Think you will find also that most of the players recruited into the comp this year from outside have played League footy and will be worth the cash, expecially the higher ranked sides. I would say most blokes on good cash in this comp are not overpaid.

[Dashin]

having said that from what i can gather there's plenty of blokes these days running around getting $100 to $200 a game that aren't worth a cold pie. Look at what Loby were doing two years ago, paying 5 or 6 blokes and only one of them would have gotten a run in a Mt Lofty side. These guys that expect to be paid are kidding themselves, clubs shouldn't have to pay just to add depth to their team, they should only pay quality blokes that are going to make that big difference to a side.

[Bat Pad]

having said that from what i can gather there's plenty of blokes these days running around getting $100 to $200 a game that aren't worth a cold pie. Look at what Loby were doing two years ago, paying 5 or 6 blokes and only one of them would have gotten a run in a Mt Lofty side. These guys that expect to be paid are kidding themselves, clubs shouldn't have to pay just to add depth to their team, they should only pay quality blokes that are going to make that big difference to a side.

Yeah i agree that still happens, but i would say only with the bottom sides. Most of the tops sides 'depth' A graders if thats what you would call them are either locals or blokes on perhaps a little bit to cover costs. You look at the recruits who have come in who would be on good money this year and they are quality footballers, the likes of McCormick, Bartemucci, Ebert, Krieg, Devries etc. Not sure if Plenty is the amount either in terms of the whole comp, probably just bridgewater last year.

[Vision]

Hi lads, how many recruits from 08 stayed at Bridgy? Is it true that Onkas are a little light on this season with cash and players? Where's the new coach from for Onkas?

[Vision]

I only ask about these clubs because they're the last two mentioned so i wanted to get up on the goss.