Para Districts Cricket Association 2011/12

[Lucky For Some]

I think you will find that Uniteds points havent been added to the ladder yet.

[SmithyOTH]

ahh that would make sense then

[bulldog2004]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

[Lightning McQueen]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

[Grahaml]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

[Jim05]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

Does seem very harsh, common sense should prevail IMO.
Can you guys appeal or is that it?

[Grahaml]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

Does seem very harsh, common sense should prevail IMO.
Can you guys appeal or is that it?

No recourse to get the decision reversed or altered.

[whufc]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

Not taking the pi55 BUT

how was the honest mistake made, lots of experienced blokes at the club even blokes on the pdca commitee such as Ace.

is a very harsh decision but you havent left PDCA with much option, the rule doesnt state about how much of an impact the player has to have on a game. Its simply a black and white rule. By allowing it it would open a huge can of worms and set a precedence if other clubs did the same and the player doesnt perform per say.

[Grahaml]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

Not taking the pi55 BUT

how was the honest mistake made, lots of experienced blokes at the club even blokes on the pdca commitee such as Ace.

is a very harsh decision but you havent left PDCA with much option, the rule doesnt state about how much of an impact the player has to have on a game. Its simply a black and white rule. By allowing it it would open a huge can of worms and set a precedence if other clubs did the same and the player doesnt perform per say.

It's an innocent mistake because the rules used to be different. I know for a fact we were able to drop someone down from B or C grade down to E grade finals a few years ago because he missed a few games with a hamstring injury. Nobody was aware the rule was as it was or we'd have not made this mistake. As for opening a can of worms, they can make a judgement call on each incident as people do in cricket all the time. I don't think they need to make it a case of just brush under the table, there are many faired options. The penalty always has to fit the crime, in this case the penalty is way over the top.

[Thats Gold]

As much as we dont agree with them sometimes....but "rules are rules". If ever in doubt then the club should make an enquiry before naming the team and taking the field.

[whufc]

I know what your saying Grahaml but there is no way the commitee can make the decision based on the players impact in a game.

That cant be judged purely based on runs and wickets. If a young player fields at slips chases a ball down to third man quicker than the normal bloke that would be in the side, they only get one instead of two. The next ball the batsmen gets out his had an indirect impact on the game, which wont show in any scorebook. There is no way they could let SW play an iledgible player based on his impact as the rule states nothing about it being a performance based rule.

Without been rude it is up to every club to have an understanding of each rule at the beginning of the year. If ever in doubt then you need to request an answer before playing the game. The commitee could look at this as a very stupid mistake to be made especially considering a bloke like Ace is heavily involved in SW cricket and is involved in PDCA commitee. There is no excuses for not having checked especially if in doubt.

I have absolutly no doubt nothing cyncial was in place by the fact of who you were playing and other factors but the rule is simply just the rule.

Im sure if you had been excused for the mistake you would not have let EP play an illegible player this weekend against your side.

[duck-mann]

As much as we dont agree with them sometimes....but "rules are rules". If ever in doubt then the club should make an enquiry before naming the team and taking the field.

^^ Agree completely ^^

If the side had still managed to make finals, or if the points deduction wasnt the reason they missed finals, it wouldnt even be a talking point....

[Snap Shot]

What happened with salisbury west grade 4 team losing their points in round 14? Therefore missing out on finals.

Apparently Travis McIntyre dropped from A Grade to C Grade without the club seeking permission. It used to be a rule that juniors were exempt from this, it's nowhere in the constitution now. I don't think Westies would've done it to stack their side, they were only playing Wasleys.

Missed a game as well due to ankle surgery. Been playing as a bowler in A grade but didn't bowl a ball in the game against Wasleys. He in fact only stood at slip the whole week 1 instead of a regular slip fielder. We were never going to gain any advantage from him playing, yet the association think an honest mistake that made absolutely no difference to the game warrants denying a team the chance to play finals. Totally out of touch with the game IMHO.

Why take such a STUPID risk then? I'm 100% sure the guys at swcc were aware of the rule, so why not inquire the pdca first???

[bagster]

well done to the central united lads , excellent effort on making the samca 20/20 finals. we didnt get the win, but fought all the way , pooraka were too strong, all 30-40yo to our 18-23. they obviously played the turf better, they had the spikes etc and some very experienced players. we still enjoyed the fantastic experience and will keep the treasured memories forever.... the game went along the same as our regular season, we bowled 1st and fielded brilliantly, kept them to a getable score 126 and then got held down by their tight experienced bowling 7-90 ish ?.. as per usual this season, Fenwick was our top scorer again..

[Lightning McQueen]

It's an innocent mistake because the rules used to be different. I know for a fact we were able to drop someone down from B or C grade down to E grade finals a few years ago because he missed a few games with a hamstring injury. Nobody was aware the rule was as it was or we'd have not made this mistake. As for opening a can of worms, they can make a judgement call on each incident as people do in cricket all the time. I don't think they need to make it a case of just brush under the table, there are many faired options. The penalty always has to fit the crime, in this case the penalty is way over the top.

Whether it's ethically correct or not at least the exec. stand by their rules in every aspect, nowadays there are no rights to seek permits in juniors nor to get players qualified for finals, we were a bit disappointed that one lad played the first 8 in the A's and the last 6 in the B's couldn't get a finals berth, a good honest player that hasn't had a huge year in either. Another lad played the first round in the B's, we brought him up for the next 8 and then he went back down for the last 5 and was denied a permit also.
Disappointing when you are trying to give the players that "WANT" to play A's a decent opportunity to acclimatise themselves to the grade and then it denies them a finals opportunity, but hey, as long as there's consistency there.

[Lightning McQueen]

As much as we dont agree with them sometimes....but "rules are rules". If ever in doubt then the club should make an enquiry before naming the team and taking the field.

Hey TG, howcome most of these rules stem from Craigmore CC indiscretions, I believe that's the Rob Howe rule.

Do you have anymore? It's too early for me atm.

[Browny25]

Weather looks good this year so we should see a result in this years semis and the best sides will get through...

Angle Vale v Virginia

[Lightning McQueen]

Weather looks good this year so we should see a result in this years semis and the best sides will get through...

Angle Vale v Virginia

Eh, synopsis not looking that crash hot.

Wednesday 14 March
Min 22 Max 34
Partly cloudy. Scattered showers developing in the afternoon. Winds north to northeasterly averaging up to 35 km/h tending north to northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h during the afternoon.
Thursday 15 March
Min 18 Max 26
Cloudy. Patchy rain. Winds northwest to southwesterly averaging up to 30 km/h tending south to southwesterly about 20 km/h later in the evening.
Friday 16 March
Min 16 Max 22
Patchy rain in the morning. Mostly sunny afternoon. Winds south to southeasterly averaging 15 to 20 km/h.
Saturday 17 March
Min 14 Max 24
Mostly sunny. Winds south to southeasterly averaging up to 25 km/h.

[Thats Gold]

As much as we dont agree with them sometimes....but "rules are rules". If ever in doubt then the club should make an enquiry before naming the team and taking the field.

Hey TG, howcome most of these rules stem from Craigmore CC indiscretions, I believe that's the Rob Howe rule.

Do you have anymore? It's too early for me atm.

Haha. I remember that instance some 7 or 8 yrs ago when the rule was relatively new. Our club should have been onto it and we lost all our points...had nothing to do with me.

[Executive Member]

Weather looks good this year so we should see a result in this years semis and the best sides will get through...

Angle Vale v Virginia

Eh, synopsis not looking that crash hot.

Wednesday 14 March
Min 22 Max 34
Partly cloudy. Scattered showers developing in the afternoon. Winds north to northeasterly averaging up to 35 km/h tending north to northwesterly 20 to 30 km/h during the afternoon.
Thursday 15 March
Min 18 Max 26
Cloudy. Patchy rain. Winds northwest to southwesterly averaging up to 30 km/h tending south to southwesterly about 20 km/h later in the evening.
Friday 16 March
Min 16 Max 22
Patchy rain in the morning. Mostly sunny afternoon. Winds south to southeasterly averaging 15 to 20 km/h.
Saturday 17 March
Min 14 Max 24
Mostly sunny. Winds south to southeasterly averaging up to 25 km/h.

geez i would think that forecast would be fine to play on concrete