What is happening at Port?

[auto]

No doubt Primus is a good coach.

Surely there must be SOME doubt?

Maybe a good SANFL coach...AFL??? No idea.

Port wont got anywhere in 3 to 4 years.

Something seriously needs to be done about them. It's hurting SANFL football to much.

They wanted to be the best side in the AFL so they need to suck it up and deal with it.

They wanted to go into the AFL.....live by the sword , die by the sword.!!!!

If your want to turn this into yet another Port are shit, hurting the SANFL thread take it to the SANFL board with all the others meathead.

[auto]

Tom Jonas and Jon Butcher must be close to getting games. Been very impressed with how quickly Jonas has got back to form since returning from injury. Has impressed me most games ive seen him play. Would need to be upgraded from rookie list i believe

Im surprised Butcher hasn't had a run yet .. I know his kicking can be shizenhouse, but he moves well and has an excellent pair of mitts

Do you think he really deserves a game in the AFL? no way.
If this bloke was any good he'd be smashing them in the SANFL but he's not.
He'll be delisted next year.

Bet ya 10 bucks he's in the side next week. If not then Chad wouldnt have got the word to retire this week with schulz out. In one way get him in and see how he goes, he may play better in an AFL side than an SANFL side ala Lobbe, but in another way its setting the wrong culture to hand out games willy nilly. Says abit about how our club is struggling, and has been for a few years now and will be for a few more.

[auto]

it all went downhill since the ONE club merger

Nah its been downhill ever since about 1:30pm Saturday arvo of the 2007 GF and weve been putting fingers in the dam wall to stop the leaks ever since. Let the water rush in and repair it properly, even if it takes a few years to get the foundations right.

[auto]

Was staggered that Callinan,Puopolo or Duigan were not looked at by Port, they also delist Nick Lower who seams to be having a decent crack at Freo

The delisting of Lower was amazing IMHO. Sure, he wasn't the greatest kick in AFL (there are a lot worse), but he's a very good inside player who tackles hard and forces pressure. I honestly have no idea why Port didn't rate him.

My criticism of Port Adelaide is a cultural one that has had a major impact on the way they are performing now. They need to take a quantum leap into the 21st century and break free of this "Past Port Players make the best Port coaches" bullshit. Forget about 1870 on the jumper and how many SANFL flags they've won, the Power is a team new to the AFL in 1997 and have won 1 flag.

I saw this at my own club Hawthorn in the 1990s. After a highly sucessful 'reign of terror', the club relaxed with a proven formula of success and named a series of previous Hawks players as coaches. One day, the club woke up to the fact that the game had moved ahead, and Hawthorn hadn't moved with it.

The appointment of Clarkson has been a successful one as he brought new ideas and methods to the club. We needed it badly. Port Adelaide need this as well, and the recruitment staff need to be replaced.

Agree with the culture bit, somethings gone terribly wrong. Matty as coach may have been the only one we could afford at the time, also he may be the Dean Bailey type to spend 3 years developing players only for a new coach to come in and take the reins. As for 1870 on the guernsey, it belongs there and weve been PAFC since that time but that argument has been done to death and then some.

[Adelaide Hawk]

As for 1870 on the guernsey, it belongs there and weve been PAFC since that time but that argument has been done to death and then some.

My point is not about whether it belongs there or not, and I certainly don't wish to start another discussion on it as it is tiresome. My point is 'Port Adelaide POWER' have to snap itself into the fact that they are in the AFL now, and all their SANFL achievements have no bearing on what they are doing now, or what they need to do in future.

I honestly believe the links with the Port Adelaide Magpies have severely stunted the Power's potential for growth. The time for looking back is over, they need to focus on a forward direction.

[auto]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

[FlyingHigh]

This is a very low ebb for the club and I'm not going to take any cheap shots.
I don't quite understand Primus' coaching and what he's trying to achieve, I think he's been compromised by the heirachy from the outset and what is needed is someone to take the reins and direct the club in a positive football direction first, followed by a positive corporate backing......easier said than done for a club that is strapped for cash and in an onfield quagmire.

Raised this question a few weeks ago. How come Port a few years ago were able to have well-known major sponsors such as Vodafone and Bianco, and but the last couple years have relatively unknown ones, My ATM and Soaring Securities (?). Begs the question perhaps things haven't been that rosy behind the season at Port for a few years?

[FlyingHigh]

Matty has to build this group from the ground up, and unfortunately many of the senior blokes who should be keeping them competitive are struggling big time.
IMO

KEEP
Boak, Gray, Cassisi, Hartlett, Lobbe,Trengove, Newton, O'Shea, J. Westhoff, Schulz, Young, Pittard, Thomas, Rodan, P. Stewart, Phillips, Moore, Logan, Butcher, Jacobs, Carlisle, Chaplin,Bass, K. Cornes, Broadbent,

Retired - Brogan, C. Cornes

Elevate- Tom Jonas

Rookies, Curnow, Irons

Delist - M. Westhoff, M. Motlop, Webb, Meyer, Redden, Hay, Davenport

Trade bait - Pearce, Salopek, Ebert, Hitchcock, Banner, D. Stewart, Salter, Surjan, Pettigrew, D. Motlop

Wouldnt trade Banner. There is a bit about him and I think they should definitly hang on to him. They should also look at keeping D. Steward and Salter in my opinion and piss off Surjan as he is a hack.

Agree, D Stewartand Salter can offer Port something, put these days you have to at least offer players like this if you are going to get anything in return.

Think they should keep Redden for at least one more year, we all know how slowly ruckman can develop, and it has been injury rather than form that has upset his season this year in the SANFL.

[Sojourner]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

One good thing is that Port do finally have their finances sorted out, at least for the next few years and can address the issues of spending in the Football Department.

Where Port go wrong is constantly trying to do what the Crows do, the example is the refusal of the club to make a change to Adelaide Oval. Yes I know the SANFL would not have liked it and so on. Port need to accept that they a good crowd for them is 25 000, not unlike what the Gold Coast get, and putting that into Adelaide Oval would have given them an edge to marketing and a huge distinction between them and the Crows. The Atmosphere at Adelaide Oval which will be demonstrated when Port play Melbourne there will be 100 times what it is at Football Park. For Port to have tapped into that for the last several years could have made a huge difference, now that its being redeveloped and both sides are going there, there is no advantage and it wont save the club as it might have.

Several players running around in the SANFL might as well be given a shot at the Power, mature aged recruiting may not be a bad strategy in line with the GWS entry next season. I would try and trade for a marquee player/s to build these lads around and for the right people - such as Nathan Bassett to come in and do some work with the Juniors, to feed into the side. Despite the current situation, if the club are prepared to take action they will make a start back up the ladder next season.

[JK]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

One good thing is that Port do finally have their finances sorted out, at least for the next few years and can address the issues of spending in the Football Department.

Where Port go wrong is constantly trying to do what the Crows do, the example is the refusal of the club to make a change to Adelaide Oval. Yes I know the SANFL would not have liked it and so on. Port need to accept that they a good crowd for them is 25 000, not unlike what the Gold Coast get, and putting that into Adelaide Oval would have given them an edge to marketing and a huge distinction between them and the Crows. The Atmosphere at Adelaide Oval which will be demonstrated when Port play Melbourne there will be 100 times what it is at Football Park. For Port to have tapped into that for the last several years could have made a huge difference, now that its being redeveloped and both sides are going there, there is no advantage and it wont save the club as it might have.

Several players running around in the SANFL might as well be given a shot at the Power, mature aged recruiting may not be a bad strategy in line with the GWS entry next season. I would try and trade for a marquee player/s to build these lads around and for the right people - such as Nathan Bassett to come in and do some work with the Juniors, to feed into the side. Despite the current situation, if the club are prepared to take action they will make a start back up the ladder next season.

Pretty sure Port were keen for some games at AO, but the SANFL as license holders, kept them at Footy Park?

[stan]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

One good thing is that Port do finally have their finances sorted out, at least for the next few years and can address the issues of spending in the Football Department.

Where Port go wrong is constantly trying to do what the Crows do, the example is the refusal of the club to make a change to Adelaide Oval. Yes I know the SANFL would not have liked it and so on. Port need to accept that they a good crowd for them is 25 000, not unlike what the Gold Coast get, and putting that into Adelaide Oval would have given them an edge to marketing and a huge distinction between them and the Crows. The Atmosphere at Adelaide Oval which will be demonstrated when Port play Melbourne there will be 100 times what it is at Football Park. For Port to have tapped into that for the last several years could have made a huge difference, now that its being redeveloped and both sides are going there, there is no advantage and it wont save the club as it might have.

Several players running around in the SANFL might as well be given a shot at the Power, mature aged recruiting may not be a bad strategy in line with the GWS entry next season. I would try and trade for a marquee player/s to build these lads around and for the right people - such as Nathan Bassett to come in and do some work with the Juniors, to feed into the side. Despite the current situation, if the club are prepared to take action they will make a start back up the ladder next season.

Pretty sure Port were keen for some games at AO, but the SANFL as license holders, kept them at Footy Park?

You could be right. The SACA and SANFL have been at war with each other longer than I can remember. You are probably onto something there.

Also on the recuriting issue, Port should be trying to get a say Brad Ebert back to SA or a Polec from Brisbane back to SA. They could try to see if Jamar will come back, but it is very hard to get guys to come back from Melbourne, hence why Perth, Brisbane and Sydney players should be looked at.

[Reddeer]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

One good thing is that Port do finally have their finances sorted out, at least for the next few years and can address the issues of spending in the Football Department.

Where Port go wrong is constantly trying to do what the Crows do, the example is the refusal of the club to make a change to Adelaide Oval. Yes I know the SANFL would not have liked it and so on. Port need to accept that they a good crowd for them is 25 000, not unlike what the Gold Coast get, and putting that into Adelaide Oval would have given them an edge to marketing and a huge distinction between them and the Crows. The Atmosphere at Adelaide Oval which will be demonstrated when Port play Melbourne there will be 100 times what it is at Football Park. For Port to have tapped into that for the last several years could have made a huge difference, now that its being redeveloped and both sides are going there, there is no advantage and it wont save the club as it might have.

Several players running around in the SANFL might as well be given a shot at the Power, mature aged recruiting may not be a bad strategy in line with the GWS entry next season. I would try and trade for a marquee player/s to build these lads around and for the right people - such as Nathan Bassett to come in and do some work with the Juniors, to feed into the side. Despite the current situation, if the club are prepared to take action they will make a start back up the ladder next season.

You reckon, only by bailouts
A move there wont make a scrap of difference

[saintal]

I don’t think their leadership group was large enough this season…

[Dirko]

I don’t think their leadership group was large enough this season…

Dutchy to thread....Dutchy to thread.....

[stan]

Dont think the club looks backwards at all....IMO the clubs problems are poor recruiting, poor culture, poor finances to spend money in the football department....none of these things really have any genesis in the club looking backward.....it may be some idiot supporters who look backwards more so than the club.

One good thing is that Port do finally have their finances sorted out, at least for the next few years and can address the issues of spending in the Football Department.

Where Port go wrong is constantly trying to do what the Crows do, the example is the refusal of the club to make a change to Adelaide Oval. Yes I know the SANFL would not have liked it and so on. Port need to accept that they a good crowd for them is 25 000, not unlike what the Gold Coast get, and putting that into Adelaide Oval would have given them an edge to marketing and a huge distinction between them and the Crows. The Atmosphere at Adelaide Oval which will be demonstrated when Port play Melbourne there will be 100 times what it is at Football Park. For Port to have tapped into that for the last several years could have made a huge difference, now that its being redeveloped and both sides are going there, there is no advantage and it wont save the club as it might have.

Several players running around in the SANFL might as well be given a shot at the Power, mature aged recruiting may not be a bad strategy in line with the GWS entry next season. I would try and trade for a marquee player/s to build these lads around and for the right people - such as Nathan Bassett to come in and do some work with the Juniors, to feed into the side. Despite the current situation, if the club are prepared to take action they will make a start back up the ladder next season.

You reckon, only by bailouts
A move there wont make a scrap of difference

Actually it will due to the lower running costs and revised stadium deal.
But you are right their finances are not exactly all sorted out. But I do believe they are heading into the right direction.

[Wedgie]

They managed to lay less tackles than Hawthorn today despite Hawthorn having the ball 160 more times than them!

[Mad Mat]

2011

[Apachebulldog]

KARMA !!!!

[Jim05]

KARMA !!!!

Yep couldnt happen to a nicer bunch. Laughing stock of the league

[Thiele]

KARMA !!!!

Yep couldnt happen to a nicer bunch. Laughing stock of the league

Well said