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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby drifter » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:57 pm

Well we know where your allegiances lie Wedgie, was an honest mistake. Still wasn't looking for a fight
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby kickinit » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:26 pm

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As opposed to you looking outside your black, white and teal goldfish bowl???

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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby drifter » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:35 pm

drifter wrote:With all the debate about the reserves, how about this one?
What if their was a South West conference- Port, Adelaide, West coast and Fremantle
The 2 Neafl conferences- East and North - 18 teams
Total of 22 teams.
SW conference - plays each other twice( 6 games)
And the other 18 conference teams once- half away, half home.
Total of 24 matches- no NAB Cup.
SW games to be played as curtain raisers to AFL
Each AFL club is allocated 4 SANFL clubs to choose a total of 20 top up players at he beginning of the season.
No more than 4 from each club. Can include Under 18 players.
Only to be used when their Is not enough AFL listed players to choose from
Top 6- best performed sides over be 3 conferences.
1v6
2v5
3v4
2 lowest ranked losers drop out.
Preliminary finals
Grand final
Let us know your thoughts?

Have tried to post this again, see how we go on the AFL forum.
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:44 pm

kickinit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Exactly go and get your top up players from the ammos or country footy.
Either that or if you want a top up player from a SANFL side you cough up a decent sum of money


or we could just get them to leave their sanfl club go back to ammos and take them that way.


And we can just up your rent at AO
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby drifter » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Ha ! Yeah, and maybe Gawler council can up yours at the Den :D
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:03 pm

drifter wrote:Ha ! Yeah, and maybe Gawler council can up yours at the Den :D

Differance is the SANFL clubs will be Port's landlord and can charge accordingly ;)
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby am Bays » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:12 pm

This is now in the AFL forum??? I thought it might have gone to the best jokes thread....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:39 pm

drifter wrote:
drifter wrote:With all the debate about the reserves, how about this one?
What if their was a South West conference- Port, Adelaide, West coast and Fremantle
The 2 Neafl conferences- East and North - 18 teams
Total of 22 teams.
SW conference - plays each other twice( 6 games)
And the other 18 conference teams once- half away, half home.
Total of 24 matches- no NAB Cup.
SW games to be played as curtain raisers to AFL
Each AFL club is allocated 4 SANFL clubs to choose a total of 20 top up players at he beginning of the season.
No more than 4 from each club. Can include Under 18 players.
Only to be used when their Is not enough AFL listed players to choose from
Top 6- best performed sides over be 3 conferences.
1v6
2v5
3v4
2 lowest ranked losers drop out.
Preliminary finals
Grand final
Let us know your thoughts?

Have tried to post this again, see how we go on the AFL forum.


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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby FOURTH ESTATE » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:40 pm

Leave the Ammos out of this we have enough problems with SANFL clubs taking and sending players to us and telling us where to play them let a lone having to deal with the APPS.
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Armytank » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:17 pm

I'll give you some credit for having a crack at putting a solution together and then having the balls to put it on a forum who's main contributors are SANFL followers.

But seriously, that in no way is any good for the SANFL, from the SANFL perspective it is a $hit idea.

Good effort but try again
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Psyber » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:07 pm

Armytank wrote:I'll give you some credit for having a crack at putting a solution together and then having the balls to put it on a forum who's main contributors are SANFL followers.
But seriously, that in no way is any good for the SANFL, from the SANFL perspective it is a $hit idea.
Good effort but try again
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But as I bother to follow "AFL" only because there are teams based here, if they were moved out of SA I would cease to notice the whole thing.
(If a national league not run by the old Melbourne VFL emerged I may get interested again.)
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:46 pm

Another alternative....

Keep the Port Magpies but play in the VFL, with Port AFL listed players.

Retain the 8 sides in the SANFL, but align Sturt (or whoever the Crows pick) with the Crows.

Either way, the affiliation with the AFL will happen, we may as well make it as painless as possible.
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Hondo » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:03 pm

From a Crows' perspective I'm still not convinced we need a reserves side with listed players plus top ups from where?

Put it this way it's not worth carving up the SANFL comp for. I think everyone copies the best team and fair enough I guess but is Geelong's "reserves" side the main driver of their success?

Good leadership, good drafting, good rehab, good coaching and probably 10 other things would be more important as an outsider looking in. I feel a bit for Port fans on one level because the Crows seem to be leaving all the heavy lifting on this issue to the PAFC yet we are in it as thick as they are I assume.
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Psyber » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Hondo wrote:From a Crows' perspective I'm still not convinced we need a reserves side with listed players plus top ups from where?

Put it this way it's not worth carving up the SANFL comp for. I think everyone copies the best team and fair enough I guess but is Geelong's "reserves" side the main driver of their success?

Good leadership, good drafting, good rehab, good coaching and probably 10 other things would be more important as an outsider looking in.
I feel a bit for Port fans on one level because the Crows seem to be leaving all the heavy lifting on this issue to the PAFC yet we are in it as thick as they are I assume.

From my base of having been a Crows supporter since their inception, I tend to agree with you that a reserves side is unnecessary.
I think the existing system works in our smaller environment, whereas it may not in Melbourne with so many more VFL teams.
It may have worked better here had the Magpies been deleted, and the Crows and Port worked with only four allied SANFL teams each.
(Fewer coaches to liaise with, thus not straining the capacity of officials.)

Port appear to have had turning the Magpies into their reserves in mind when they started the "one administration for cost savings only" scam.
The first time I recall the Crows saying anything on the subject was the "If they get a reserves team then we will want one too." statement.

Now I'm getting sick of it from both of them and I would like them both to just go away.
(I know it is unlikely to happen as the money usually wins.)
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby stan » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:46 pm

There are always pros and cons to this, but I havent heard of a proposal thats a win win for all parties. Even if say Port's reserves are the MApgies, thats ok I guess for now, but with the crows, that will bring in a 10th team. How do you fill the crows side to make sure they have at least 21 each week. With injuries, suspensions from the AFL side etc, this could be tough without getting players from other SANFL teams. I dont know myself how this would all work but I would hate it if say my team Norwood became a crows B team. Same probably with other teams as well.

But on a pro point of view for the current system. West v Norwood on the weekend. Port had the bye and were able to have there ruckmen going against each other all day. Now you can't tell me that wasnt a good thing for them? I could be wrong but thats an example.
Also the way it is now the players have to earn there spots in there SANFL side. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Re: New idea for Crows and Ports reserves teams- conference

Postby Psyber » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:23 pm

stan wrote:There are always pros and cons to this, but I havent heard of a proposal thats a win win for all parties. Even if say Port's reserves are the MApgies, thats ok I guess for now, but with the crows, that will bring in a 10th team. How do you fill the crows side to make sure they have at least 21 each week. With injuries, suspensions from the AFL side etc, this could be tough without getting players from other SANFL teams. I dont know myself how this would all work but I would hate it if say my team Norwood became a crows B team. Same probably with other teams as well.

But on a pro point of view for the current system. West v Norwood on the weekend. Port had the bye and were able to have there ruckmen going against each other all day. Now you can't tell me that wasnt a good thing for them? I could be wrong but thats an example.
Also the way it is now the players have to earn there spots in there SANFL side. There is nothing wrong with that.
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