Can anyone end the Bulldogs dominance ?

[birdmanptr]

Purch the difference in the 50s-60s was that the power clubs then had wealthy financial 'backers' to get the best of the best...paper bags marked '$' were rampant. Is this what all 'good' clubs are based on?

It's a well known fact these days that Centrals has the fattest brown paper bag in the league...

Well done Centrals. you've set the bar pretty high, I'm not sure there are many clubs that will match it in a long, long time.

Correct they will come back to the pack before the pack catches up just my view

[BenchedEagle]

Centrals has the fattest brown paper bag in the league...

Central has never dominated ever really in regular season, just we get to finals from 1st, 2nd or 3rd wherever and just know how to play pressure football.

The way all these jealous people carry on about our dominance, i ask "Why dont we finish minor premiers every year? Why do we get beaten during year sometimes? Why do we have to come from 4-5 goals down and still win clutch finals games?

Central is a great club doing everything right on and off the field. You dont like it, go watch some WAFL!

[Hondo]

Central has never dominated ever really in regular season, just we get to finals from 1st, 2nd or 3rd wherever and just know how to play pressure football.

The way all these jealous people carry on about our dominance, i ask "Why dont we finish minor premiers every year? Why do we get beaten during year sometimes? Why do we have to come from 4-5 goals down and still win clutch finals games?

I've been thinking about this exact point because it's the same formula that Port used in the late 80s and 90s. It seems to be about doing enough to finish top 3 but not over-cooking it more than necessary until finals. Like Port, Centrals drop games during the year and make it look like the era is ending but sure enough end up top 3. It's about winning at the right time of the season.

I reckon that if Centrals wanted badly to win the minor premiership then they probably would. I feel that Geelong in the AFL this year took a similar approach whereas they seemed to want to win every game in 07 and 08. Centrals approach also reminds me of Hawthorn in the 80s.

I have read a few posts by the likes of D4eva and dogwatcher who talk about the club copying the Port formula for success. Now they are the new Port Adelaide of the SANFL.

[fish]

North Korea and Iran are about the last remaining hopes

[spell_check]

Central has never dominated ever really in regular season, just we get to finals from 1st, 2nd or 3rd wherever and just know how to play pressure football.

The way all these jealous people carry on about our dominance, i ask "Why dont we finish minor premiers every year? Why do we get beaten during year sometimes? Why do we have to come from 4-5 goals down and still win clutch finals games?

I've been thinking about this exact point because it's the same formula that Port used in the late 80s and 90s. It seems to be about doing enough to finish top 3 but not over-cooking it more than necessary until finals. Like Port, Centrals drop games during the year and make it look like the era is ending but sure enough end up top 3. It's about winning at the right time of the season.

I reckon that if Centrals wanted badly to win the minor premiership then they probably would. I feel that Geelong in the AFL this year took a similar approach whereas they seemed to want to win every game in 07 and 08. Centrals approach also reminds me of Hawthorn in the 80s.

I have read a few posts by the likes of D4eva and dogwatcher who talk about the club copying the Port formula for success. Now they are the new Port Adelaide of the SANFL.

Central won 6 minor premierships between 2000 and 2009, while Port only won 2 between 1990 and 1999.

[Tassie Blues]

one easy way to stop the dominance send them to the AFL worked with port.

I dont want to stop the dominance of the dogs just want sturt to beat them in a grand final again

[csbowes]

Fortunately in the SANFL we still have champion teams dominating unlike the fabricated National comp which has a daft I mean draft to eventually wear down champion teams which is bullcrapp

I don't actually agree with this one... just think how much more interesting the league would have been over the last 25-30 years if we had had bouts of success from West Adelaide and South Adelaide and Glenelg and Sturt and so on...

By restricting the 1990's to just Port Adelaide premierships and the 2000's to Centrals premierships, your unfortunate side effect is to possibly reduce the interest of new or current fans in the competition. Lets be real, what light is there at the end of the tunnel for say a Panthers fan? I'd love to see them make the finals a few years running and play off in a grannie and win, it'd be great for the league, the area and their diehard fans.

While I understand the "manufactured-ness" of having a draft and salary caps and so on, I don't think it does any of us any good to have a competition dominated by one team for an extensive period. This is not a swipe at Centrals either, I'd love Sturt to be in their position, but one cannot doubt that dominance does diminish interest, just look at my beloved EPL, people constantly criticise how it is dominated by Man United etc.

[BenchedEagle]

Central has never dominated ever really in regular season, just we get to finals from 1st, 2nd or 3rd wherever and just know how to play pressure football.

The way all these jealous people carry on about our dominance, i ask "Why dont we finish minor premiers every year? Why do we get beaten during year sometimes? Why do we have to come from 4-5 goals down and still win clutch finals games?

Like Port, Centrals drop games during the year and make it look like the era is ending but sure enough end up top 3.

I reckon that if Centrals wanted badly to win the minor premiership then they probably would.

I feel that Geelong in the AFL this year took a similar approach whereas they seemed to want to win every game in 07 and 08. Centrals approach also reminds me of Hawthorn in the 80s.

im surprised you would dribble this crap!

[johntheclaret]

yeah, We're successful because of pokies. The Players love them, knowing that, after the game, They can go back to the club, sit back with one leg up next to Their favourite treasure chest, pint in 1 hand, fag in the other......bliss......It has nothing to do with smart recruiting, such as Danny Hulm, The Gowans, Goodrem, Hayes, Hopwood, Hay, Stevens, and locally, well, there just isn't enough room or time!! We won Our 1st flag before Our pokie barn was even built! The extension was built because of bingo & fundraising, not pokies. We got a loan to build the new club, not because of pokies, players don't come to Our club because of pokies. Kyle Jenner hit the nail on the head last night, it's a fantastic club, almost like playing back at Cleve, family orientated & everyone has respect for each other.

My original post wasn't a dig at CDFC, only how I saw the situation from afar. Agree also, that the gaming has nothing to do with it, as I said, North etc all have gaming facilities.

[Pottsy]

I can end the Bulldogs dominance.

...Centrals won't make a Grand Final for the next 3 years...

There we go, ended!

[aceman]

I can end the Bulldogs dominance.

...Centrals won't make a Grand Final for the next 3 years...

There we go, ended!

Now there's some "balls"! What have you been either smoking or drinking????

[hawkseye]

Fortunately in the SANFL we still have champion teams dominating unlike the fabricated National comp which has a daft I mean draft to eventually wear down champion teams which is bullcrapp

I don't actually agree with this one... just think how much more interesting the league would have been over the last 25-30 years if we had had bouts of success from West Adelaide and South Adelaide and Glenelg and Sturt and so on...

By restricting the 1990's to just Port Adelaide premierships and the 2000's to Centrals premierships, your unfortunate side effect is to possibly reduce the interest of new or current fans in the competition. Lets be real, what light is there at the end of the tunnel for say a Panthers fan? I'd love to see them make the finals a few years running and play off in a grannie and win, it'd be great for the league, the area and their diehard fans.

While I understand the "manufactured-ness" of having a draft and salary caps and so on, I don't think it does any of us any good to have a competition dominated by one team for an extensive period. This is not a swipe at Centrals either, I'd love Sturt to be in their position, but one cannot doubt that dominance does diminish interest, just look at my beloved EPL, people constantly criticise how it is dominated by Man United etc.

I think earning premierships the old fashioned way is the way to go. Dont get me wrong i loved last year when the Hawks won but knowing already in 3 or 4 years time that Melb will be up around the mark doesnt sit well with me when all they have done to get out of their situation is get draft picks.
Give me Centrals dominance over winning flags from draft picks anyday. I dont see the point in rewarding bottom sides with players.

[Hondo]

im surprised you would dribble this crap!

Just trying to find common traits between teams that have had recent dynasties in football

You yourself said Centrals are doing it without being clearly dominant in the minor rounds.

Spelly rightly picked up that I under-estimated how many minor premierships Centrals had, in fact, won but I still feel that one common trait is aiming to peak in finals and not before.

[hawkseye]

im surprised you would dribble this crap!

Just trying to find common traits between teams that have had recent dynasties in football

You yourself said Centrals are doing it without being clearly dominant in the minor rounds.

Spelly rightly picked up that I under-estimated how many minor premierships Centrals had, in fact, won but I still feel that one common trait is aiming to peak in finals and not before.

Agreed. Pretty sure Roy made this point during the week.

[doggies4eva]

im surprised you would dribble this crap!

Just trying to find common traits between teams that have had recent dynasties in football

You yourself said Centrals are doing it without being clearly dominant in the minor rounds.

Spelly rightly picked up that I under-estimated how many minor premierships Centrals had, in fact, won but I still feel that one common trait is aiming to peak in finals and not before.

That's exactly right. While we don't tank games Roy has a plan that we in peak on GF day and that may put us at risk of dropping the odd minor round game. Roy has always said that he aims for a top 3 finish. I don't think finishing top is such an advantage but finishing top 3 definitely is.

[dogs01]

How can you end the dominance of a club that is bigger than any other club in the comp.
The dogs will eventually miss out on making a GF which is just reality, but with the structures in place at elizabeth you would think that they would make the finals almost every year thus giving them a good chance to make a GF .
Look back to 06 when we lost some of the best players in the clubs history, we still made the GF. Even though we lost that GF we still got through the year with almost a whole new list of players and a whole heap of injuries.
So the teams dominance may take a dent every now and then but i cant see the clubs dominance ever ending, reallistically it can only get stronger, and if the other 8 clubs dont get a wriggle on they may be left behind.

[Cambridge Clarrie]

How can you end the dominance of a club that is bigger than any other club in the comp.
The dogs will eventually miss out on making a GF which is just reality, but with the structures in place at elizabeth you would think that they would make the finals almost every year thus giving them a good chance to make a GF .
Look back to 06 when we lost some of the best players in the clubs history, we still made the GF. Even though we lost that GF we still got through the year with almost a whole new list of players and a whole heap of injuries.
So the teams dominance may take a dent every now and then but i cant see the clubs dominance ever ending, reallistically it can only get stronger, and if the other 8 clubs dont get a wriggle on they may be left behind.

A lot of Port supporters felt this way about 10 - 15 years ago.

While I don't see the Dogs missing the finals for a few years yet, it will happen eventually... Nothing lasts forever...

[sjt]

I think when JC retire, it will be like losing, half a team. This will be a further challenge for the club.

[gossipgirl]

YES

[dogs01]

How can you end the dominance of a club that is bigger than any other club in the comp.
The dogs will eventually miss out on making a GF which is just reality, but with the structures in place at elizabeth you would think that they would make the finals almost every year thus giving them a good chance to make a GF .
Look back to 06 when we lost some of the best players in the clubs history, we still made the GF. Even though we lost that GF we still got through the year with almost a whole new list of players and a whole heap of injuries.
So the teams dominance may take a dent every now and then but i cant see the clubs dominance ever ending, reallistically it can only get stronger, and if the other 8 clubs dont get a wriggle on they may be left behind.

A lot of Port supporters felt this way about 10 - 15 years ago.

While I don't see the Dogs missing the finals for a few years yet, it will happen eventually... Nothing lasts forever...

True, but ports dominance was destroyed by the power. As soon as the power joined the AFL the magpies were kicked out and sent to a tin shed at ethelton.
The facilities at elizabeth can only get better which is my point.