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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby RustyCage » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:44 pm

cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:Lock this thread mods.

We can all see that David came on here expecting us to roll over and part our cheeks (accept the AFC in the SANFL) like the SANFL league directors did and when he tried to buy us a few drinks (by stroking our hair and telling us it will be ok) he soon realised that he was up against it and his tone became smarmy and unpalatable as the decision grew clearer.

He wont be back. The next time you're in here and see "guest" listed on the bottom of the page it will be most likely him with a little smirk on his face.

Thanks for treating the people of this football forum who make up a large portion of the SA football public with such contempt.

Ethel and Mavis' apricot slices will no doubt be all over Norwood Oval in the middle of next winter as the lovely boys play the Redlegs in the depths of winter while the Crow boys trade blows with West Coast at Subiaco. Oh, make no mistakes those Crow fans will flock to see the seconds play.

Meanwhile Mr.Trigg can sleep well at night knowing he has lied point blank to the South Australian football community twice in 6 months.

I would say he got sick of answering the stupid questions & the same questions over & over. It's done now, time to move on.


Welcome back, David.

No worries. That just proves you have no idea.


No, I'd call thinking he didn't answer questions because we kept asking the same thing,which he didn't answer anyway, having no idea
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby cracka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:57 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
Welcome back, David.

No worries. That just proves you have no idea.


No, I'd call thinking he didn't answer questions because we kept asking the same thing,which he didn't answer anyway, having no idea

Why would he answer the same questions over & over. Just because you didn't like the answers he gave doesn't mean he didn't answer the questions.
Port will be in the same boat next year, having to answer questions from the forum users about why you should get all the Power players playing at one club. Will the PR guy from Port come on here & answer questions & will you have a go at him if he doesn't answer every question, no matter how stupid or aggressive they are.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:27 pm

cracka wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
Welcome back, David.

No worries. That just proves you have no idea.


No, I'd call thinking he didn't answer questions because we kept asking the same thing,which he didn't answer anyway, having no idea

Why would he answer the same questions over & over. Just because you didn't like the answers he gave doesn't mean he didn't answer the questions.
Port will be in the same boat next year, having to answer questions from the forum users about why you should get all the Power players playing at one club. Will the PR guy from Port come on here & answer questions & will you have a go at him if he doesn't answer every question, no matter how stupid or aggressive they are.

Bull$hit
He didnt even bother to answer some questions.
It probably isnt his fault though, that lying c**t Trigg has probably been feeding him crap aswell.
Ah well its done now, the Cows will have to come up with another weak as piss excuse next year when they miss the 8 again
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby SimonH » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:19 pm

cracka wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
cracka wrote:
Booney wrote:
Welcome back, David.

No worries. That just proves you have no idea.


No, I'd call thinking he didn't answer questions because we kept asking the same thing,which he didn't answer anyway, having no idea

Why would he answer the same questions over & over. Just because you didn't like the answers he gave doesn't mean he didn't answer the questions.
Port will be in the same boat next year, having to answer questions from the forum users about why you should get all the Power players playing at one club. Will the PR guy from Port come on here & answer questions & will you have a go at him if he doesn't answer every question, no matter how stupid or aggressive they are.
If you can't be bothered going through the thread, don't comment. If you can be bothered going through the thread, and you don't notice that he ignored pertinent, on-topic, non-aggressive questions, then you can't read. Having done so, he then chimed in with smart-arse responses to aggressive/insulting comments made by people who were, in part, frustrated that he wouldn't answer questions. Again, if you deny that, you either haven't bothered going through the thread or you can't read.

It's up to Port if their PR guy comes on here to answer forum users' questions. But if he does, then it's a waste of everyone's time if he comes on just trying to feed the chooks (as Joh used to say) and then protests, 'no fair, don't expect me to actually answer your questions, you guys are too negative and aggressive' once he gets a few that can't be answered with spin or easy lies that he knows he won't be caught out on until it's too late.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby cracka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:00 pm

SimonH wrote:If you can't be bothered going through the thread, don't comment. If you can be bothered going through the thread, and you don't notice that he ignored pertinent, on-topic, non-aggressive questions, then you can't read. Having done so, he then chimed in with smart-arse responses to aggressive/insulting comments made by people who were, in part, frustrated that he wouldn't answer questions. Again, if you deny that, you either haven't bothered going through the thread or you can't read.

It's up to Port if their PR guy comes on here to answer forum users' questions. But if he does, then it's a waste of everyone's time if he comes on just trying to feed the chooks (as Joh used to say) and then protests, 'no fair, don't expect me to actually answer your questions, you guys are too negative and aggressive' once he gets a few that can't be answered with spin or easy lies that he knows he won't be caught out on until it's too late.

I did read the whole thread & saw quite a few answers from the adelaidefc user (in fact 74 replies up until page 16, if you deny that then you either haven't bothered going through the thread or you can't read) which I assumed was David from the crows. My apologies if that wasn't him, I take it all back.
The bit about the Port PR guy coming on was more to make sure Booney & PAFC, in fact all Port supporters will be as hard on him or her as they are on the crows for not answering all questions no matter how stupid, repetitive or aggressive they are.
I admire the AFC for coming on here (not as an alias as most people do) & trying to answer questions & putting up with this sh!t. I also don't agree with all the crows are doing but someone has to play devils advocate.
Personally I emailed all non Victorian clubs last year to see if it was possible for them to organise a reserves comp among themselves so as not to affect the SANFL like it will & Port were the only club to reply they are working on something, which as it turns out will affect the SANFL as much as the crows model does. I actually asked that question on this topic (page 9 if you don't believe me) & have just realised it hasn't been answered yet. FFS now I'm pissed as well. F@#$ em I say.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby JohnnyG » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:55 am

Booney wrote:Lock this thread mods.

We can all see that David came on here expecting us to roll over and part our cheeks (accept the AFC in the SANFL) like the SANFL league directors did and when he tried to buy us a few drinks (by stroking our hair and telling us it will be ok) he soon realised that he was up against it and his tone became smarmy and unpalatable as the decision grew clearer.

He wont be back. The next time you're in here and see "guest" listed on the bottom of the page it will be most likely him with a little smirk on his face.

Thanks for treating the people of this football forum who make up a large portion of the SA football public with such contempt.

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Why should he come back? I would suggest that it was actually the people of this forum who treated him with contempt and initiated the smarmy unpalatable tone.
You're stuck in a time warp and you are unable to see that change is inevitable and that the SANFL is continually evolving.
Society would still be in the caveman era with the neanderthal thinking of some people here.
Why don't you even try to understand change and adapt to it and make some positive contributions towards it.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby whufc » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:06 am

JohnnyG wrote:
Booney wrote:Lock this thread mods.

We can all see that David came on here expecting us to roll over and part our cheeks (accept the AFC in the SANFL) like the SANFL league directors did and when he tried to buy us a few drinks (by stroking our hair and telling us it will be ok) he soon realised that he was up against it and his tone became smarmy and unpalatable as the decision grew clearer.

He wont be back. The next time you're in here and see "guest" listed on the bottom of the page it will be most likely him with a little smirk on his face.

Thanks for treating the people of this football forum who make up a large portion of the SA football public with such contempt.

.


Why should he come back? I would suggest that it was actually the people of this forum who treated him with contempt and initiated the smarmy unpalatable tone.
You're stuck in a time warp and you are unable to see that change is inevitable and that the SANFL is continually evolving.
Society would still be in the caveman era with the neanderthal thinking of some people here.
Why don't you even try to understand change and adapt to it and make some positive contributions towards it.


Is all change good is it????
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby topsywaldron » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:08 am

Codswallop, tripe and cant.

Which part of turning a meaningful competition into glorified practice matches is beyond you?

Guessing you're resigning your SAFC membership in protest?
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby JohnnyG » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:29 am

whufc wrote:
JohnnyG wrote:
Booney wrote:Lock this thread mods.

We can all see that David came on here expecting us to roll over and part our cheeks (accept the AFC in the SANFL) like the SANFL league directors did and when he tried to buy us a few drinks (by stroking our hair and telling us it will be ok) he soon realised that he was up against it and his tone became smarmy and unpalatable as the decision grew clearer.

He wont be back. The next time you're in here and see "guest" listed on the bottom of the page it will be most likely him with a little smirk on his face.

Thanks for treating the people of this football forum who make up a large portion of the SA football public with such contempt.

.


Why should he come back? I would suggest that it was actually the people of this forum who treated him with contempt and initiated the smarmy unpalatable tone.
You're stuck in a time warp and you are unable to see that change is inevitable and that the SANFL is continually evolving.
Society would still be in the caveman era with the neanderthal thinking of some people here.
Why don't you even try to understand change and adapt to it and make some positive contributions towards it.


Is all change good is it????



No it is not, however, once it is inevitable then you try to make it work better with some attempts to alleviate any negative impacts rather than just slashing your throat and sitting there in your death throes and lashing out with meaningless insults.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby JohnnyG » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:55 am

topsywaldron wrote:Codswallop, tripe and cant.

Which part of turning a meaningful competition into glorified practice matches is beyond you?

Guessing you're resigning your SAFC membership in protest?



I'm continuing my SAFC membership - are you giving up your Norwood membership?

If you are implying that having AFL players in the SANFL lessens the competitive aims, then the current situation of all 9 SANFL Clubs (all containing AFL players) means the SANFL is already a largely meaningless or compromised competition.
Hence, after the AFC & Power have their reserves teams within the SANFL with the other 8 Clubs being "pure" SANFL clubs, then I would suggest that that will actually be a more meaningful competition.
I believe that the SANFL will be strengthened on the field and off the field and its future more assured with more exposure under the format of 8 pure SANFL clubs plus the 2 AFL reserves clubs in it. The kids of the next generation will be more likely to embrace it - otherwise it is destined to slowly whither into a suburban amateur competition much like the local state soccer league has become.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby fester69 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:13 am

JohnnyG is just upset because he knows he'll never get to CHANGE his avatar!!
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby topsywaldron » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:50 am

JohnnyG wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:Codswallop, tripe and cant.

Which part of turning a meaningful competition into glorified practice matches is beyond you?

Guessing you're resigning your SAFC membership in protest?



I'm continuing my SAFC membership - are you giving up your Norwood membership?

If you are implying that having AFL players in the SANFL lessens the competitive aims, then the current situation of all 9 SANFL Clubs (all containing AFL players) means the SANFL is already a largely meaningless or compromised competition.
Hence, after the AFC & Power have their reserves teams within the SANFL with the other 8 Clubs being "pure" SANFL clubs, then I would suggest that that will actually be a more meaningful competition.
I believe that the SANFL will be strengthened on the field and off the field and its future more assured with more exposure under the format of 8 pure SANFL clubs plus the 2 AFL reserves clubs in it. The kids of the next generation will be more likely to embrace it - otherwise it is destined to slowly whither into a suburban amateur competition much like the local state soccer league has become.


You ARE David Burtenshaw.

Off and drink the koolaid buddy, you haven't got a clue.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby UK Fan » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:37 am

JohnnyG wrote:
Booney wrote:Lock this thread mods.

We can all see that David came on here expecting us to roll over and part our cheeks (accept the AFC in the SANFL) like the SANFL league directors did and when he tried to buy us a few drinks (by stroking our hair and telling us it will be ok) he soon realised that he was up against it and his tone became smarmy and unpalatable as the decision grew clearer.

He wont be back. The next time you're in here and see "guest" listed on the bottom of the page it will be most likely him with a little smirk on his face.

Thanks for treating the people of this football forum who make up a large portion of the SA football public with such contempt.

.


Why should he come back? I would suggest that it was actually the people of this forum who treated him with contempt and initiated the smarmy unpalatable tone.
You're stuck in a time warp and you are unable to see that change is inevitable and that the SANFL is continually evolving.
Society would still be in the caveman era with the neanderthal thinking of some people here.
Why don't you even try to understand change and adapt to it and make some positive contributions towards it.


The bland 'stuck in a timewarp' response usually given by any of the pro-yes camp. We actually did not oppose the teams being in the reserves, I guess the refusal of the AFL clubs to even contemplate this was being ultra-progressive. It was change, so therefore must have been good according to you.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby Apachebulldog » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:57 am

Johnny Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee where have you come from have not seen you for the last 230 odd pages of posts on this topic you must of crawled out of a Crows arse.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby cracka » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:43 am

topsywaldron wrote:
JohnnyG wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:Codswallop, tripe and cant.

Which part of turning a meaningful competition into glorified practice matches is beyond you?

Guessing you're resigning your SAFC membership in protest?



I'm continuing my SAFC membership - are you giving up your Norwood membership?

If you are implying that having AFL players in the SANFL lessens the competitive aims, then the current situation of all 9 SANFL Clubs (all containing AFL players) means the SANFL is already a largely meaningless or compromised competition.
Hence, after the AFC & Power have their reserves teams within the SANFL with the other 8 Clubs being "pure" SANFL clubs, then I would suggest that that will actually be a more meaningful competition.
I believe that the SANFL will be strengthened on the field and off the field and its future more assured with more exposure under the format of 8 pure SANFL clubs plus the 2 AFL reserves clubs in it. The kids of the next generation will be more likely to embrace it - otherwise it is destined to slowly whither into a suburban amateur competition much like the local state soccer league has become.


You ARE David Burtenshaw.

Off and drink the koolaid buddy, you haven't got a clue.

According to booney I'm David from the crows.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby areaman » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:07 pm

Generally I've found people pull out the old "you're scared of change" when their arguments and reasoning have failed to convince anyone.

It's a way of saving face and feeling morally superior when all else has failed.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby UK Fan » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:10 pm

areaman wrote:Generally I've found people pull out the old "you're scared of change" when their arguments and reasoning have failed to convince anyone.

It's a way of saving face and feeling morally superior when all else has failed.


Exactly.

I think most SANFL fans have adapted to change remarkably well in the last two decades, but apparently we are all still living in the Knuckles era.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:18 pm

x 3

Especially when the bulk of the changes affecting the SANFL have been to it's detriment, whilst the bulk of the changes to the AFL has been to it's advantage
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby JohnnyG » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:48 pm

Apachebulldog wrote:Johnny Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee where have you come from have not seen you for the last 230 odd pages of posts on this topic you must of crawled out of a Crows arse.



Quite the contrary mate, I've been following the SANFL since the late 1950s and i'm both a SAFC member and home & away ticket holder and I've most probably seen more SANFL games than most on here.
We are all entitled to have differing opinions on the issues and nobody can say that any particular result is the correct one - they all have pros and cons.
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Re: Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

Postby JohnnyG » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:53 pm

topsywaldron wrote:
JohnnyG wrote:
topsywaldron wrote:Codswallop, tripe and cant.

Which part of turning a meaningful competition into glorified practice matches is beyond you?

Guessing you're resigning your SAFC membership in protest?



I'm continuing my SAFC membership - are you giving up your Norwood membership?

If you are implying that having AFL players in the SANFL lessens the competitive aims, then the current situation of all 9 SANFL Clubs (all containing AFL players) means the SANFL is already a largely meaningless or compromised competition.
Hence, after the AFC & Power have their reserves teams within the SANFL with the other 8 Clubs being "pure" SANFL clubs, then I would suggest that that will actually be a more meaningful competition.
I believe that the SANFL will be strengthened on the field and off the field and its future more assured with more exposure under the format of 8 pure SANFL clubs plus the 2 AFL reserves clubs in it. The kids of the next generation will be more likely to embrace it - otherwise it is destined to slowly whither into a suburban amateur competition much like the local state soccer league has become.


You ARE David Burtenshaw.

Off and drink the koolaid buddy, you haven't got a clue.



Resorting to your level of debate: i'ld suggest that you've been off drinking too much Coopers and i'ld back myself anyday to have more clue on what goes on within the SANFL than you do.
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