Fantastic opportunity for the SANFL?

[dedja]

got anyone in mind?

[kickinit]

Some of the land will be sold off, whilst the rest will be redeveloped to create ongoing income in the form of a future fund.

Plus there's the income from Adelaide Oval.

They're not in a bad position at all.

What will Port do when they're on their own? ... apart from being reliant on AFL handouts or perish?

Come back in 10 years and let's compare the SANFL finances with Port, that's if Port are still a going concern.

Selling off the land will see a big tax bill and with the way the market is they would be better off holding on to it for a few years. Redeveloping would be the way to go but it will be a while before they saw any income from it. on top of that they would need to spend a heap of money to be able to do so.

The SANFL are in a position to make a huge gain from selling the license and the move to Adelaide oval. But before they do that they need to make sure that the competition as it is can survive without having to rely on that money. If they are having to spend that money to keep the SANFl alive then are we going to have a SANFl in 10,20,30 years time. Doesn't matter what you do investment wise, if your spending more then your making it isn't going to last long.

[dedja]

They'll will be fine once they cut the dead weight that is Port Adelaide ... that's where most of the recent money has gone

[kickinit]

They'll will be fine once they cut the dead weight that is Port Adelaide ... that's where most of the recent money has gone

haha, that old chest nut. So they have given Port a few million dollars, were in the heck has all the other money gone? Even if they had given port $20million they should still be in a solid place. They have struggled with the SMA board and they even got caught stealing tax payers money. Yep the SANFL are in great hands. Heck how long did it take for them to sort out the ERIC issue.

[stampy]

I teach at an all boys primary school in the western suburbs. Over the past 5 years, the amoun of WWT jumpers has exploded at school trainings.

Good to hear some of the Eagles junior supporter strategies are working.

My son got his auskick bag today. Full of eagles gear, stickers, cards offers etc. We'll be able to use the family pass on July 20, the rest will benefit a neighbour. Great effort though by the eagles, I hope Centrals are doing the same.

Re the crowds as I mentioned in the other thread, the crowd and power will have to underwrite anything they propose. Their word, research or expectations means nothing.

was there half a dozen memberships in the bag as well

[dedja]

[Booney]

This could be the catalyst for setting the sanfl up for the future and enabling complete autonomy?

You think if the SANFL were to cut all ties with the two SA based AFL clubs and the AFL in general for complete autonomy it would survive long term? You have got to be kidding.

Well, I suppose it might. But I think the $65 entry fee to games and $1000 memberships might drive people away.

[CUTTERMAN]

This could be the catalyst for setting the sanfl up for the future and enabling complete autonomy?

You think if the SANFL were to cut all ties with the two SA based AFL clubs and the AFL in general for complete autonomy it would survive long term? You have got to be kidding.

Well, I suppose it might. But I think the $65 entry fee to games and $1000 memberships might drive people away.

Thank you David Koch.

[Baldy]

My understanding, right or wrong, is that The Power want to buy their license and want 10 years to pay. Taking their current financial situation into account one has to ask how they are going to do that? If the do default, what penalties, if any, apply? I am assuming that the Crows have the $'s available.

Maybe we should sell to the AFL and let them worry about collecting the rent.

[wild dog]

Port Adelaide supporters giving financial advice

The concern about the SANFL's welfare is so touching and has a real sincere ring to it. Just like before a certain conference at Victor Harbour all those years ago.

[Booney]

Port Adelaide supporters giving financial advice

The concern about the SANFL's welfare is so touching and has a real sincere ring to it. Just like before a certain conference at Victor Harbour all those years ago.

Ahh, I see. You think because we support the club we actually have a say on the decisions made at board level and are involved in all financial decisions.

Well I can clear this up for you then wild dog. I dont personally have any involvement, nor have I over the last 5 years, on the decisions made at Alberton. I'd suggest most supporters,members and even sponsors would be the same.

Hope I have made things clearer for you.

[kickinit]

My understanding, right or wrong, is that The Power want to buy their license and want 10 years to pay. Taking their current financial situation into account one has to ask how they are going to do that? If the do default, what penalties, if any, apply? I am assuming that the Crows have the $'s available.

Maybe we should sell to the AFL and let them worry about collecting the rent.

from my understanding the License will be sold back to the AFL.

[beenreal]

The SANFL needs someone with half a brain that can do this and as we have seen over the years they don't have anyone.

That is rich coming from you! Seems it doesn't matter when your club has continually had its hand out for $$$?

Since 1870?

There's that Broken Record playing again.

[wild dog]

Port Adelaide supporters giving financial advice

The concern about the SANFL's welfare is so touching and has a real sincere ring to it. Just like before a certain conference at Victor Harbour all those years ago.

Ahh, I see. You think because we support the club we actually have a say on the decisions made at board level and are involved in all financial decisions.

Well I can clear this up for you then wild dog. I dont personally have any involvement, nor have I over the last 5 years, on the decisions made at Alberton. I'd suggest most supporters,members and even sponsors would be the same.

Hope I have made things clearer for you.

Yes I see your point and thanks for pointing out the error in my mocking. For your clarification I was trying to draw a correlation between Ports bankruptcy and obvious financial mismanagement and the line that most of its supporters take which is to blame the SANFL who are now in financial trouble for bailing them out. For some of those intelligent folk to then not only promote their concern over the competitions financial health but offer advice is ironic comedy which I suspect is not intended.

I think you could question my logic if you could point out some cases of profile where individuals representing the club have actually been grateful for the money handed over. You see when I hear the acceptance speech of club legends such as Tredrea at the hall of fame publically belittle the organisation that had just bailed out his club, I can't help but reach a generalised conclusion of those that support Port.

[UK Fan]

Port Adelaide supporters giving financial advice

The concern about the SANFL's welfare is so touching and has a real sincere ring to it. Just like before a certain conference at Victor Harbour all those years ago.

Ahh, I see. You think because we support the club we actually have a say on the decisions made at board level and are involved in all financial decisions.

Well I can clear this up for you then wild dog. I dont personally have any involvement, nor have I over the last 5 years, on the decisions made at Alberton. I'd suggest most supporters,members and even sponsors would be the same.

Hope I have made things clearer for you.

Yes I see your point and thanks for pointing out the error in my mocking. For your clarification I was trying to draw a correlation between Ports bankruptcy and obvious financial mismanagement and the line that most of its supporters take which is to blame the SANFL who are now in financial trouble for bailing them out. For some of those intelligent folk to then not only promote their concern over the competitions financial health but offer advice is ironic comedy which I suspect is not intended.

I think you could question my logic if you could point out some cases of profile where individuals representing the club have actually been grateful for the money handed over. You see when I hear the acceptance speech of club legends such as Tredrea at the hall of fame publically belittle the organisation that had just bailed out his club, I can't help but reach a generalised conclusion of those that support Port.

In all seriousness In would love to be proven wrong. Koch seems a reasonable guy, wouldn't it be a real gesture of unity if he stood up and thanked the SANFL for helping Port out when it was utterly broke.

Well said WD. Whilst i agree with your sentiment words are to easy these days. But thru the gesture of accepting SANFL reserves as the only viable option for SA football moving forward as a win/win solution would be a great way to mend the relationship.

The fact they are even trying for league should be seen as giant slap in the face by the league their owners. The AFL clubs justification of its good for our clubs developement sums it up really.

Hopefully the SANFL clubs will one day realise a swift NOT-NEGOTIABLE stand on league whilst offering reserves is not being pigheaded. It's a strong stance on principals whilst offering a healthy viable alternative.

It would stop a media frenzy/pressure of deals/votes being cast when they clearly havent . Plus 62 pages of arguments I had with port fans 5 years ago.


SANFL have no-one else to blame, all this for trying to appease these faceless few who would think them "pigheaded".
To quote Royal City "if I asked to sleep with their wives would they say "no " or not want to appear pigheaded and say they'll discuss it with their missus ".

[Booney]

Port Adelaide supporters giving financial advice

The concern about the SANFL's welfare is so touching and has a real sincere ring to it. Just like before a certain conference at Victor Harbour all those years ago.

Ahh, I see. You think because we support the club we actually have a say on the decisions made at board level and are involved in all financial decisions.

Well I can clear this up for you then wild dog. I dont personally have any involvement, nor have I over the last 5 years, on the decisions made at Alberton. I'd suggest most supporters,members and even sponsors would be the same.

Hope I have made things clearer for you.

Yes I see your point and thanks for pointing out the error in my mocking. For your clarification I was trying to draw a correlation between Ports bankruptcy and obvious financial mismanagement and the line that most of its supporters take which is to blame the SANFL who are now in financial trouble for bailing them out. For some of those intelligent folk to then not only promote their concern over the competitions financial health but offer advice is ironic comedy which I suspect is not intended.

I think you could question my logic if you could point out some cases of profile where individuals representing the club have actually been grateful for the money handed over. You see when I hear the acceptance speech of club legends such as Tredrea at the hall of fame publically belittle the organisation that had just bailed out his club, I can't help but reach a generalised conclusion of those that support Port.

Publicly airing correspondence in matters such as the SANFL funding to the PAFC may not have occured but to think that there has been no sincere "thankyou" offered from Port to the SANFL behind closed doors or in written correspondence is presumptuous.

(Some) Port fans on here might simply see it as pay back for what Port have contributed over the years but I would suggest the people at the pointy end of the Port Adelaide Football Club acknowledge the funding in the proper manner and I think it is there for all to see that the new board, President and CEO have taken huge steps forward in turning the financial state of the club around.

[sjt]

This could be the catalyst for setting the sanfl up for the future and enabling complete autonomy?

You think if the SANFL were to cut all ties with the two SA based AFL clubs and the AFL in general for complete autonomy it would survive long term? You have got to be kidding.

Well, I suppose it might. But I think the $65 entry fee to games and $1000 memberships might drive people away.

Unfortunately Booney, you've misinterpreted what I wrote. I never wrote cut all ties with the SA based AFL clubs. The inference was, if whatever the AFL contributes to the league can be substituted then there will no longer be a quasi reliance on the AFL and greater autonomy for the sanfl could result.

Booney do you know how much financially the AFL directly contributes to the SANFL clubs each year?
Not income derived from the SANFLs investment in the SA based AFL clubs, but from the AFL.

[UK Fan]

Comprehension has never been his strong point SJT.

[Booney]

Comprehension has never been his strong point SJT.

Ahh, the sniper arrives again.

[sjt]

Comprehension has never been his strong point SJT.

Ahh, the sniper arrives again.

Booney, do you know the answer to my previous question?