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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Magellan » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:14 pm

Suri wrote:According to a source of mine, at the time trial this week Menzel came dead last and walked the last 200m.

Sounds like he might've added 13th to the 12 days of Crows' Christmas.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Feenix » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:58 pm

Magellan wrote:
Suri wrote:According to a source of mine, at the time trial this week Menzel came dead last and walked the last 200m.

Sounds like he might've added 13th to the 12 days of Crows' Christmas.

He must of been hanging out with Steven Motlop
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Magellan » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:04 pm

Who ate all the mince pies. ;)
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Spargo » Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:50 pm

Magellan wrote:Who ate all the apricot slice. ;)

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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Magellan » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:25 pm

Looks like there's still some left!

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Re: Crows 2015

Postby oyster » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:04 pm

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Suri wrote:According to a source of mine, at the time trial this week Menzel came dead last and walked the last 200m.


Over a 2km run?


The story on Menzel's poor training gets louder and louder. Was listening to some Crows people yesterday and Menzel's poor training form and poor running times was a big discussion point.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby mighty hounds » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:06 pm

oyster wrote:
Booney wrote:
Suri wrote:According to a source of mine, at the time trial this week Menzel came dead last and walked the last 200m.


Over a 2km run?


The story on Menzel's poor training gets louder and louder. Was listening to some Crows people yesterday and Menzel's poor training form and poor running times was a big discussion point.


did he come back to training out of shape or is he just mentally weak? I find it hard to comprehend someone of his build not being about to run out a 2k time trial.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:07 pm

Interesting.

So that could show a few things

1. He is very unfit in general, and struggled at carlton too
2. He let himself go over the summer
3. Carlton's training is very different to the crows
4. all of the above

i tend to think 4

edit: mighty hounds beat me to it
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Brodlach » Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:44 pm

Hampton said the Crows train far harder than the GWS ever had
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby stan » Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:56 pm

Most likely he just isnt as fit. Whilst he has probably put in poor times this does not suggest he isnt applying himself.

He has had injuries and still only fairly young and wouldn't have had many AFL preseasons.



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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:08 pm

stan wrote:Most likely he just isnt as fit. Whilst he has probably put in poor times this does not suggest he isnt applying himself.

He has had injuries and still only fairly young and wouldn't have had many AFL preseasons.



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also would have thought he is basically going to be our replacement for betts in a couple of years time, so he may not get much game time this year
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby stan » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:25 pm

bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:Most likely he just isnt as fit. Whilst he has probably put in poor times this does not suggest he isnt applying himself.

He has had injuries and still only fairly young and wouldn't have had many AFL preseasons.



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also would have thought he is basically going to be our replacement for betts in a couple of years time, so he may not get much game time this year

Different type of player to Betts. More of a half forward / mid type. I would say Cameron is being groomed for a Betts replacement.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby bennymacca » Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:28 pm

stan wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
stan wrote:Most likely he just isnt as fit. Whilst he has probably put in poor times this does not suggest he isnt applying himself.

He has had injuries and still only fairly young and wouldn't have had many AFL preseasons.



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also would have thought he is basically going to be our replacement for betts in a couple of years time, so he may not get much game time this year

Different type of player to Betts. More of a half forward / mid type. I would say Cameron is being groomed for a Betts replacement.


yeah i meant that i dont think there is necessarily room for 3 small forwards, betts, cameron, menzel, so menzel will likely only get regular games when betts retires.

Thats unless they want to push cameron or betts into the midfield more
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Grahaml » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:55 am

Can't imagine any AFL footballer being resigned to waiting to replace a player in a couple of years. Especially one who has played senior footy already and was traded in. Definitely think they will be looking at full time midfield duties probably shared between Betts, Menzel and Cameron. Reckon they could all play in the forward line together too. Menzel and Betts play like mid size forwards most of the time anyway.

Reckon the answer lies partly in this being an exaggeration and the kid just miscalculating. Can't imagine Carlton are so far behind or that he would have lost so much fitness. Likely went out too hard trying to impress and blew up. Doubt there will be anyone saying in August that his season was wrecked because he couldn't run out the first time trial.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Booney » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:18 am

Grahaml wrote:Can't imagine any AFL footballer being resigned to waiting to replace a player in a couple of years. Especially one who has played senior footy already and was traded in. Definitely think they will be looking at full time midfield duties probably shared between Betts, Menzel and Cameron. Reckon they could all play in the forward line together too. Menzel and Betts play like mid size forwards most of the time anyway.

Reckon the answer lies partly in this being an exaggeration and the kid just miscalculating. Can't imagine Carlton are so far behind or that he would have lost so much fitness. Likely went out too hard trying to impress and blew up. Doubt there will be anyone saying in August that his season was wrecked because he couldn't run out the first time trial.


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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Magellan » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:39 am

Menzel's done three pre-seasons, so by now he should have an idea of what's expected of a professional footballer. I would've thought a new player keen to impress and gain selection would keep fit, even when on leave from club duties. Going too hard and not completing a 2km run would suggest a lack of fitness.

Mind you, he has been injury prone, so perhaps he's simply injured as opposed to being a bit porky after Christmas. If it's the latter, the Crows have every right to be disappointed. By the same token, if it's the former, then he probably shouldn't be running time trials.
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:49 pm

Sounds like Jared Polec's first time trial
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby stan » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:03 pm

Brodlach wrote:Sounds like Jared Polec's first time trial

Yeah it does doesn't it. Maybe he did let himselg go a bit over Christmas but I doubt there are any issues there as the doom-sayers are hoping
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Crows 2015

Postby RustyCage » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:39 pm

The time trial that Polec was getting over tonsillitis but still ran?
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Re: Crows 2015

Postby Chuck Wepner » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:25 pm

RustyCage wrote:The time trial that Polec was getting over tonsillitis but still ran?

There you go stating facts again... this isn't what the forum is about! :)
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