Australian tour of India 2023

[Lightning McQueen]

Can’t play Renshaw again, he’s a walking wicket

It's either him or Agar, they thought they had the batting depth covered, they need to fly someone over there otherwise.

[shoe boy]

Bowled them out for 260 and then had them 4/110.....bowling line up performed pretty well imo. If we find a way to get 500 runs in a test we could win one with that bowling line up.[/quote]

With scores of 113 & 91 we are long way off.
Could yo imagine if we lost the coin toss.

[whufc]

Bowled them out for 260 and then had them 4/110.....bowling line up performed pretty well imo. If we find a way to get 500 runs in a test we could win one with that bowling line up.

With scores of 113 & 91 we are long way off.
Could yo imagine if we lost the coin toss.[/quote]

Agree miles off.

[The Bedge]

Australia lost that match & should have won, we need to keep that in mind for the next test.
IF we had batted "normally" (like a test team does), we SHOULD have batted most of the day & compiled a lead of 200, maybe more,
then there's every chance (and more than likely) that we would have won.
It's simple, the next 2 matches, just play proper cricket shots, like we used to not too long ago,
it's not T20!!
WTF is a reverse sweep?? It's just dumb cricket!
Patience is a virtue.

Hmm yes and no.. the wickets were bad yesterday, and when 7/10 were out bowled or LBW trying to sweep it's fricking ugly!! That's the biggest flaw, the sweep.

But.

I think once it reached a point where we lost the top order, the idea of "knuckling down" and staying patient is not going to help in those conditions, you'll just bat yourself into a hole, chew up balls and lose your wicket anyway. I think Australia had to try and swing some sort of momentum back, or at least look to score before it went to crap.

Yeah, it didn't work - it failed terribly - but if the Aussies were able to streak their way to another 50-60 runs, then it may have been enough to bowl on.

Pitch isn't conducive to time in the middle on the 3rd day.

As for the reverse sweep - sometimes it's got to be implored - you have an attacking field, ball spinning away, it's probably a lower risk shot than defending and driving.. on some pitches

[Armchair expert]

Thanks for the laugh guys Agar


Head
Khawaja
Labuschagne
Smith
Green
Handscomb
Carey
Cummins
Lyon
Murphy
Kuhnemann

Anyone that gets out to a sweep is tasered

[Dutchy]

Obviously there was only one thing on the whiteboard "Sweep" - not much depth to the game plan and its clear India are in the heads of the off field team as well as the players. They only needed to get 160 in front and it was game on.

Fly Maxwell over there ASAP

[whufc]

Australia lost that match & should have won, we need to keep that in mind for the next test.
IF we had batted "normally" (like a test team does), we SHOULD have batted most of the day & compiled a lead of 200, maybe more,
then there's every chance (and more than likely) that we would have won.
It's simple, the next 2 matches, just play proper cricket shots, like we used to not too long ago,
it's not T20!!
WTF is a reverse sweep?? It's just dumb cricket!
Patience is a virtue.

Hmm yes and no.. the wickets were bad yesterday, and when 7/10 were out bowled or LBW trying to sweep it's fricking ugly!! That's the biggest flaw, the sweep.

But.

I think once it reached a point where we lost the top order, the idea of "knuckling down" and staying patient is not going to help in those conditions, you'll just bat yourself into a hole, chew up balls and lose your wicket anyway. I think Australia had to try and swing some sort of momentum back, or at least look to score before it went to crap.

Yeah, it didn't work - it failed terribly - but if the Aussies were able to streak their way to another 50-60 runs, then it may have been enough to bowl on.

Pitch isn't conducive to time in the middle on the 3rd day.

As for the reverse sweep - sometimes it's got to be implored - you have an attacking field, ball spinning away, it's probably a lower risk shot than defending and driving.. on some pitches

Yeah agree, the intent to score was fine.....Cummins first ball the exception but the premeditated sweep at all costs was ludicrous. Then throw in the reverse sweep as well.

The problem with the reverse is because it's so premeditated there playing it from areas you would never even try a normal sweep never mind with your opposite hands eg a foot outside off turning against the sweep shot.

Also at least with a premediated normal sweep you can opt out once it's left the bowlers hand and play a defensive shot. Once you commit to reverse sweep none of them can change shot if it's not in the right area.

[amber_fluid]

Can’t play Renshaw again, he’s a walking wicket

It's either him or Agar, they thought they had the batting depth covered, they need to fly someone over there otherwise.

I’m no Agar fan but he can’t do any worse than Renshaw and he can at least bowl a few overs.
Why did we take him?

[Lightning McQueen]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

[Lightning McQueen]

Can’t play Renshaw again, he’s a walking wicket

It's either him or Agar, they thought they had the batting depth covered, they need to fly someone over there otherwise.

I’m no Agar fan but he can’t do any worse than Renshaw and he can at least bowl a few overs.
Why did we take him?

He made 5* in the Sydney test, he was in form.

[amber_fluid]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

Yep if we are the best test playing nation then crickets in real strife!
I guess when we return home and beat up on the minnows we will be world beaters once again.

[amber_fluid]

Can’t play Renshaw again, he’s a walking wicket

It's either him or Agar, they thought they had the batting depth covered, they need to fly someone over there otherwise.

I’m no Agar fan but he can’t do any worse than Renshaw and he can at least bowl a few overs.
Why did we take him?

He made 5* in the Sydney test, he was in form.

He’s got Renshaw covered

[gadj1976]

So, like the rest of the nation, I'm stunned by the stupidity of the Aust batting today, and I really cannot fathom the reverse sweep in test scenarios.

IMO, sweeping is high risk, especially on decks like this one. Reverse sweeping is ridiculously high risk, so why would you do it - to get a few runs against the traditional field placings? HUGE risk vs little reward IMO. Slog sweeping, like Cummins did is just plain Z grade cricket tactics. "Let's show em, I'll slog the first one for 6 and that'll teach em." Mate, you're the captain, we're 6/95, pull your head in.

That was the worst batting I've seen from an Australian line up, ever. And I've seen some shockers. But not one player wanted to actually pitch in and keep their wicket. It was real T20 stuff and completely f'd us over.

I watched the Indians use their feet to the spinners in the second dig and I didn't see that once from our batsman. Just terrible technique from our line up.

I wonder if Andrew McDonald will ring Langer for a few hints - cos he looked baffled in the stands. Obviously they'd decided to use the sweep as a tactic before the test. Jadeja after the game said that it was a dumb tactic (not exact words) on that pitch. How can we get it so wrong?

Rant over

I had a laugh at Cummins during the after-match interview saying that they hadn't the 'sweeping' as a plan during meetings. Find that extremely hard to bloody believe that in this day and age where they have a meeting regarding every aspect of the game, that all players came out sweeping yet that wasn't a plan.

Take some responsibility, man up and say we got it wrong.

Head had a fair crack.... Khawaja has shown he can bat on those wickets albeit the reverse sweep also got him, Labuschagne had a crack just got an absolute grubber that was on the stumps. Handscombe is trying. Even Lyon is having a fair crack with the bat.

Warner is done.
Smith.......im not sure what he was trying to do, probably the best player at using his feet and he plays the big slog sweep.
Renshaw.....arguably as bad an innings as you will see at test level.
Carey......the bloke clearly has no brain or is just a stubborn prick. Put the reverse sweep away FFS
Carbon Cummins....yeah sorry mate you're not captain material albeit one hell of a bowler
Kunhemann....you're not winning us the game but geez in your second game, number 10 and you're playing the reverse sweep as well....get fugged.

Kunhemann is 11, which is worse! Try putting bat on ball traditionally, stay within your lane and hang around FFS.
Khawaja got caught doing the dab sweep. Just trying to poke it around the corner.

[Armchair expert]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

Should poach McCullum even if it costs $10,000,000

[Jim05]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

Should poach McCullum even if it costs $10,000,000

Why wouldn’t we try to attract one of the better subcontinent batters to come onboard our coaching ranks?
CA has tons of cash so throw money at a Sangakkara, Laxman or someone just to name a couple

[Armchair expert]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

Should poach McCullum even if it costs $10,000,000

Why wouldn’t we try to attract one of the better subcontinent batters to come onboard our coaching ranks?
CA has tons of cash so throw money at a Sangakkara, Laxman or someone just to name a couple

That would be a good idea also

[amber_fluid]

We're the anko version of the ECC atm

Should poach McCullum even if it costs $10,000,000

Why wouldn’t we try to attract one of the better subcontinent batters to come onboard our coaching ranks?
CA has tons of cash so throw money at a Sangakkara, Laxman or someone just to name a couple

Coz Ronald McDonald would lose his job if we get a real coach with experience

[whufc]

Maxwell returns for Victoria in the shield today......IF he was to ton up today would you get him on the next plane over there or does that just add to the constant sweeping tactic.

[Rik E Boy]

The worst coached side we've ever had.

regards,

REB

[whufc]

The worst coached side we've ever had.

regards,

REB

Are they coached.....

Impression i get is Cummins is the man in charge and McDonald is nothing more than a team manager in essence.