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Wedgie wrote:Poor article IMHO, someone telling Adam how he should act and feel. No one has that right.
The way hes been treated and the things he's been called wouldn't upset me either, but it doesn't give me the right to tell him how to feel and act.

On the whole the article related to how the author feels impacted by Goodes' actions .What's wrong with him offering some advice at the end ?
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Wedgie wrote:Poor article IMHO, someone telling Adam how he should act and feel. No one has that right.
The way hes been treated and the things he's been called wouldn't upset me either, but it doesn't give me the right to tell him how to feel and act.

I actually don't mind the article - a couple of points don't sit particularly well with me and I don't agree with, but not a bad article none the less.
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Wedgie wrote:Poor article IMHO, someone telling Adam how he should act and feel. No one has that right.
The way hes been treated and the things he's been called wouldn't upset me either, but it doesn't give me the right to tell him how to feel and act.


this is a good point too
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No 'spokesperson' speaks for everybody.

There's also no such thing as a perfect activist.
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I might be controversial here, but the AFL and general populous have now determined that boo-ing anyone coloured is racist. I noted too that Harry O (formerly known as) was booed by Collingwood supporters, but yet nothing mentioned. Why?
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gadj1976 wrote:I might be controversial here, but the AFL and general populous have now determined that boo-ing anyone coloured is racist. I noted too that Harry O (formerly known as) was booed by Collingwood supporters, but yet nothing mentioned. Why?



Because it's all about 'Adam Goodes' not race. If it was about race why don't the other 70odd indingious players get booed? Answer because there not Dicks!

Maybe people don't want imaginary spears chucked at them, Just like Adam doesn't want to be booed????

Adam doesn't want to get booed yep, fair call.

Well don't call Australia Day 'invasion day' for a start amount a huge list of 'other' provocative acts. You provoke people they will react.

I've never Booed, I don't see the point in it but, this whole situation should be laughable but it can't be now as the level it has reached.
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Yeah I can't understand why an aboriginal wouldn't celebrate Australia Day and what it celebrates.... :shock:
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Its amazing with the amount of information, explanation and education there's been recently people continue to still make ridiculously ignorant comments on the issue. Its embarrassing.
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Wedgie wrote:Its amazing with the amount of information, explanation and education there's been recently people continue to still make ridiculously ignorant comments on the issue. Its embarrassing.

Well said...
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THE FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE ADAM GOODES 2014 AUSTRALIAN OF THE YEAR ACCEPTANCE SPEECH

“It’s an honour to win an award for doing stuff that you love and that you believe in. For me, I chose that life is all about actions and interactions. I believe that our choices and how we interact with each other creates our relationships and this in turn creates the environment that we live in.

Our environment shapes our communities which then shapes the country that we all live in. Growing up as an indigenous Australian I have experienced my fair share of racism. While it has been difficult a lot of the time, it has also taught me a lot and also shaped my values and what I believe in today. I believe racism is a community issue which we all need to address and that’s why racism stops with me.

There are always two ways we can look at a situation. We can choose to get angry. Or not. We can choose to help others. Or not. Or choose to be offended. Or not. We can keep our silence or educate ourselves and others about racism and minority populations.

It is not just about taking responsibility for your own actions but speaking to your mates when they take out their anger on their loved ones, minority groups or make racist remarks. It means treating people the way you want to be treated, whether that’s your manners, the way you talk to people, whether they are your loved ones or the person serving your dinner. It’s about how you choose to give back and make a difference to those around you, your community or your country that goes outside of just yourself.

I believe we are all connected whether we like it or not. We are all equal and the same in so many ways. My hope is that we as a nation can break down the silos between races, break down those stereotypes of minority populations, indigenous populations and all other minority groups. I hope we can be proud of our heritage regardless of the colour of our skin and be proud to be Australian.

I’m not here to tell you what to think, or how to act to raise your children. All I’m here to do is tell you about my experiences and hope you choose to be aware of your actions and interactions so that together we can eliminate racism.

I’m so grateful for this award and this honour, however the real reward is when everyone is talking to their mates, to their families and their children, having those conversations and educating others about racism. What it looks like, how hurtful and how pointless it is and how we can eliminate it.

The ultimate reward is when all Australians see each other as equals and treat each other as equals. To me, everything is about people and the choices we make. I believe it’s the people and the interactions between us that makes this country so special. Thank you so much and have a great Australia Day.”
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carey wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:I might be controversial here, but the AFL and general populous have now determined that boo-ing anyone coloured is racist. I noted too that Harry O (formerly known as) was booed by Collingwood supporters, but yet nothing mentioned. Why?



Because it's all about 'Adam Goodes' not race. If it was about race why don't the other 70odd indingious players get booed? Answer because there not Dicks!

Maybe people don't want imaginary spears chucked at them, Just like Adam doesn't want to be booed????

Adam doesn't want to get booed yep, fair call.

Well don't call Australia Day 'invasion day' for a start amount a huge list of 'other' provocative acts. You provoke people they will react.

I've never Booed, I don't see the point in it but, this whole situation should be laughable but it can't be now as the level it has reached.


He didn't call Australia Day 'Invasion Day'. I really wish people would go and listen to his Australia Day speech and the subsequent interview when invasion day was mentioned. Context is everything.

Too many sheep following the leader, unable to think for themselves in this debate.
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cennals05 wrote:
carey wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:I might be controversial here, but the AFL and general populous have now determined that boo-ing anyone coloured is racist. I noted too that Harry O (formerly known as) was booed by Collingwood supporters, but yet nothing mentioned. Why?



Because it's all about 'Adam Goodes' not race. If it was about race why don't the other 70odd indingious players get booed? Answer because there not Dicks!

Maybe people don't want imaginary spears chucked at them, Just like Adam doesn't want to be booed????

Adam doesn't want to get booed yep, fair call.

Well don't call Australia Day 'invasion day' for a start amount a huge list of 'other' provocative acts. You provoke people they will react.

I've never Booed, I don't see the point in it but, this whole situation should be laughable but it can't be now as the level it has reached.


He didn't call Australia Day 'Invasion Day'. I really wish people would go and listen to his Australia Day speech and the subsequent interview when invasion day was mentioned. Context is everything.

Too many sheep following the leader, unable to think for themselves in this debate.

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So Sydney fans, did you think it was a boo-tiful win on Saturday night??

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cennals05 wrote:
carey wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:I might be controversial here, but the AFL and general populous have now determined that boo-ing anyone coloured is racist. I noted too that Harry O (formerly known as) was booed by Collingwood supporters, but yet nothing mentioned. Why?



Because it's all about 'Adam Goodes' not race. If it was about race why don't the other 70odd indingious players get booed? Answer because there not Dicks!

Maybe people don't want imaginary spears chucked at them, Just like Adam doesn't want to be booed????

Adam doesn't want to get booed yep, fair call.

Well don't call Australia Day 'invasion day' for a start amount a huge list of 'other' provocative acts. You provoke people they will react.

I've never Booed, I don't see the point in it but, this whole situation should be laughable but it can't be now as the level it has reached.


He didn't call Australia Day 'Invasion Day'. I really wish people would go and listen to his Australia Day speech and the subsequent interview when invasion day was mentioned. Context is everything.

Too many sheep following the leader, unable to think for themselves in this debate.


This is true, it's just as unfortunate that anyone who tries to view this story as having two sides is labelled as having racial undertones.

*EDIT*

It has seemingly been #istandwithadam or you're racist.

Ninemsn are running with a story that Goodes will be back this week, training at least, this is excellent news for him and Sydney.
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am Bays wrote:So Sydney fans, did you think it was a boo-tiful win on Saturday night??

;)

Very good win. Crows never in it...

Hopefully we can get the job done against the cats this week
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woodublieve12 wrote:
am Bays wrote:So Sydney fans, did you think it was a boo-tiful win on Saturday night??

;)

Very good win. Crows never in it...

Hopefully we can get the job done against the cats this week

They were certainly at their best again. Crows couldn't stick tackles or handle the basic skills. Swans on fire. Good signs after a few tough weeks
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Wedgie wrote:Poor article IMHO, someone telling Adam how he should act and feel. No one has that right.
The way hes been treated and the things he's been called wouldn't upset me either, but it doesn't give me the right to tell him how to feel and act.


*apologies, I thought my post was going right in after Wedgie's*

I read that article and it troubled me even more.
To me, his comments are even more damning of white Australia (and certainly shouldn't give the anti-Goodes brigade succour). According to this bloke, not only do the majority of us not give a stuff, but those of us who do only do so out of guilt. How does that make Australia appear?
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You got a link for that article? Obviously a huge Goodes fan and I have NEVER heard him say anything like that..
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Pretty sure he's referring to what Dallas Scott wrote, not anything Goodes said.
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Richard Colless just throwing a grenade into AFL house.... AFL try to break the rules and the swans get punished...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 7470080663
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