1964 - 1990

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Not the only game in ‘68 where Sturt avoided a loss right at the end due to umpiring “decisions”...[/quote]
Was that the goal umpire hit with a bag of sand incident?[/quote]
That was the one I was referring to, yes.
My old man still shakes his when this incident gets mentioned [/quote]

Round 14 July 20 1968

Gl 1.1 6.9 8.10 13.12 (90)
ST 4.6 5.7 12.10 13.13 (91)

Bay players were stunned when the goal umpire said he did not see the ball because he had been hit on the head by a paper bag full of sand as Glenelg Ruckman Doug Long goaled in the second quarter.
The ball was bounced on the kick off line with no score awarded.
The loss summed up a year that could have been for the Bays .

Neil Kerley would be reported in the loss to Central District and be suspended for two games. The Tigers would only win 2 of the last 6 games and finish in 5th place 1 game and .79% out of 4th place.

Prior to Round 14 Glenelg were sitting in third place one game & 7 % behind Port Adelaide and one game in front of 4th place North Adelaide
and 3 games in front West Adelaide, West Torrens & South Adelaide

[mal]

Biggest Attendance at Unley was June 8 1968
22,015

Sturt vs Port Adelaide

Sturt 6.9 (45) def Port Adelaide 5.14 (44)

That 1968 match was the day that the game should have ended in a draw but the field umpire and goal umpire had a misunderstanding after the siren and Sturt were awarded a point that should not have stood.

Not the only game in ‘68 where Sturt avoided a loss right at the end due to umpiring “decisions”...

I didnt get to this game, so can only post what Ive read
1899
3rd June
NW...3-1...5-5...6-7...7-9
NA ...0-0...3-3...5-5...7-8

This game was played at Jubilee Oval with NW winning the match
B
U
T
NW timekeeper George Fisher was embroiled in some controversy
There was an inquiry to the length of the last quarter, George Fisher had to attend the league
Something cynical must have occurred, as the result was changed
The league changed the score and the outcome
NW 7-9
NA 7-9
A drawn match !

[robranisgod]

Fab Fantasy Football
No injuries
Both sides in form
No breeze factor
Track dry
Day match
Played at Football Park

85 GL...5-4...10-6...14-10...21-14 [140]
83 WA..4-0....9-2.....12-6.....17-8 [110]

Pre match Odds
Malsportsbet
GL $1-45
WA $ 2-75

I also think that 85GL team is one of the most talented teams in the last 50 years and would beat 85WA most times
If everything mostly clicked for 83WA they could win , they were a brilliant attacking team

Another great match up would be 1980 PA v 1985 GL

The 1980s was arguably the best standard /style of football played in the SANFL

I would agree with best style of footy if you want high scoring but it is generally agreed by historians that 1963 was the best standard of footy ever played in the SANFL.

[JK]

83' Westies is the best side I've ever seen, certainly the most offensively devastating. With the benefit of hindsight and seeing what their careers amounted to, the Bays 85' side is a hard one to go past for sheer star power.

[robranisgod]

83' Westies is the best side I've ever seen, certainly the most offensively devastating. With the benefit of hindsight and seeing what their careers amounted to, the Bays 85' side is a hard one to go past for sheer star power.

I just didn't think that the West side was as good in the midfield and certainly in defence as other great sides and other than Mark Mickan's injury it was remarkably injury free in 1983.

I would rank it behind Glenelg 1985 and Port 1980 and certainly Sturt circa 1966-67 but as I keep repeating it is all subjective.

[JK]

83' Westies is the best side I've ever seen, certainly the most offensively devastating. With the benefit of hindsight and seeing what their careers amounted to, the Bays 85' side is a hard one to go past for sheer star power.

I just didn't think that the West side was as good in the midfield and certainly in defence as other great sides and other than Mark Mickan's injury it was remarkably injury free in 1983.

I would rank it behind Glenelg 1985 and Port 1980 and certainly Sturt circa 1966-67 but as I keep repeating it is all subjective.

It's probably because I'd always related opponents to my own mob. in 83' Westies were just on another planet compared to us, and we obviously won flags either side of that season. In 85' the Bays were better than us no question, but not as far ahead of us as the Bloods in 83'. Probably not the most subjective way to judge, but I wasn't open minded enough as a teenager to judge our opponents purely on their work for the entire season.

I know all clubs have "what if's" about what might have happened had players hung around instead of heading across the border - But Bay fans perhaps more than most probably feel like they missed out on a dynasty given the mount of quality (some of which was one in a generation level talent) they lost.

[Wedgie]

Which opens up the discussion, even though Norwood won in 82 and 84 I thought they underachieved in the late 80s, early 90s with the talent they had.

[JK]

Which opens up the discussion, even though Norwood won in 82 and 84 I thought they underachieved in the late 80s, early 90s with the talent they had.

So did, but the more Ive reflected over the years Im not so sure. I really felt we were probably the 2nd best side of 87', but as you'd know that North side was pretty special and highly motivated. 1990 is one I reckon we were possibly good enough, 89' too but no others. When you look at our 84' side perhaps we over achieved??

[mal]

GL
448 most games Peter super Carey
884 most goals Fred Phillis
5 GL premierships 1934/1973/1985/1986/2019

Lots of 4s and 8s in the games and goals
5 flags , number 5 being the number Peter Carey wore
5 flags every one included the number 19 , the number Fred Phillis wore

[mal]

Mini League match
September1990
WV 6-4
SA 0-0

This is a press report of the game

Woodville[St Michaels Primary]
S Borich 4
S Osborne 1
C Kluzec 1[this is likely to be Chris Kluzek, with different spelling who later played for WWT]
Best: S Borich, S Osborne, W Lavender, J Barreau

South Adelaide[Pimpala Primary ]
Best: All played well

All i can say is lucky all played well for South ....

[FlyingHigh]

83' Westies is the best side I've ever seen, certainly the most offensively devastating. With the benefit of hindsight and seeing what their careers amounted to, the Bays 85' side is a hard one to go past for sheer star power.

I just didn't think that the West side was as good in the midfield and certainly in defence as other great sides and other than Mark Mickan's injury it was remarkably injury free in 1983.

I would rank it behind Glenelg 1985 and Port 1980 and certainly Sturt circa 1966-67 but as I keep repeating it is all subjective.

It's probably because I'd always related opponents to my own mob. in 83' Westies were just on another planet compared to us, and we obviously won flags either side of that season. In 85' the Bays were better than us no question, but not as far ahead of us as the Bloods in 83'. Probably not the most subjective way to judge, but I wasn't open minded enough as a teenager to judge our opponents purely on their work for the entire season.

I know all clubs have "what if's" about what might have happened had players hung around instead of heading across the border - But Bay fans perhaps more than most probably feel like they missed out on a dynasty given the mount of quality (some of which was one in a generation level talent) they lost.

Not sure who was the poster, if it was you JK or one of the older Legs fans, saying that they thought Norwood played pretty well in teh second semi and still got done by 10 goals.

In that light, what are people's impressions of the Sturt side that year? Watching the AAMI footy highlights of that GF on Youtube recently, Sturt didn't seem to have as many big names as the Norwoods and Ports of the previous few years, West of that year or of the Bays and North to come.
There was the rising champ in Motley, the aging champs in Davies and Graham, and a few other very good players like Spiel, Howard and Derrington. But outside of this, while I recognised the names, they seemed solid contributors, not renowned stars. Or am I underestimating some who may have been there 74-78 and were towards the end of their careers?

[JK]

I didn’t think we played particularly well in any of the finals in 83’. In the Quali Sturt didn’t put us away and we came back through sheer efficiency, 2nd Semi we jumped West with a 5 goal quarter then they just ran rampant to win by about 15 goals. Prelim scores were close to level at halftime then Sturt blew us away in the 3rd quarter and it was game over. All of that from a fairly rusty memory, but confident it’s close to the mark. I expected West to destroy whichever side they met in the GF and whilst they won comfortably, Sturt certainly weren’t embarrassed.

The Bays of 83’ were interesting, and Port for that matter .. Both so strong in 82’ and 84’ but missing the finals in 83’. I know the Bays had their coaching issues, but for their CHF to poll the most Margarey votes with so much quality around him looks more bizarre with every passing year.

North, well they were well on their way to becoming flag contenders for the best part of the next decade and South had plenty of capable players mixed with experience. Geez the 80’s was such a great time in SA footy.

[Spargo]

The Bays of 83’ were interesting, so strong in 82’ and 84’ but missing the finals in 83’. I know the Bays had their coaching issues, but for their CHF to poll the most Margarey votes with so much quality around him looks more bizarre with every passing year.

Losing our first 8 games of the season with that side was unbelievable. Then the board sacked Campbell & the players threatened to strike. He was reappointed the next day. We made a belated run for the finals but lost the last couple of the year.
Arguably 1983 was the strangest season I can recall at Brighton Rd.

[Spargo]

@mal you need to put that post back up.

[JK]

The Bays of 83’ were interesting, so strong in 82’ and 84’ but missing the finals in 83’. I know the Bays had their coaching issues, but for their CHF to poll the most Margarey votes with so much quality around him looks more bizarre with every passing year.

Losing our first 8 games of the season with that side was unbelievable. Then the board sacked Campbell & the players threatened to strike. He was reappointed the next day. We made a belated run for the finals but lost the last couple of the year.
Arguably 1983 was the strangest season I can recall at Brighton Rd.

Do you think if the prodigal son hadn’t been available Campbell would have been there still in 85’ or were his papers stamped? Remembering the Bays weren’t far away in 84’

[Spargo]

The Bays of 83’ were interesting, so strong in 82’ and 84’ but missing the finals in 83’. I know the Bays had their coaching issues, but for their CHF to poll the most Margarey votes with so much quality around him looks more bizarre with every passing year.

Losing our first 8 games of the season with that side was unbelievable. Then the board sacked Campbell & the players threatened to strike. He was reappointed the next day. We made a belated run for the finals but lost the last couple of the year.
Arguably 1983 was the strangest season I can recall at Brighton Rd.

Do you think if the prodigal son hadn’t been available Campbell would have been there still in 85’ or were his papers stamped? Remembering the Bays weren’t far away in 84’

Campbell had the footy gods against him in the ‘84. Super unbelievably getting 2 weeks for attempting to strike in the Qualifying Final followed up with us kicking 1.8 in the 1st qtr then 11.23 for the match in the Prelim. I reckon I’ve posted this before but things could’ve been so different. Port finished 1.2% above us to win the minor premiership. We played the bottom 2 teams the final 2 weeks but only won both games by 12 pts. Port won theirs by 76 & 56 pts. The week off could’ve made the difference.
Campbell did get Gibbs, the Stringers & gave Salisbury his chance in ‘83.
Cornes had done his apprenticeship at South & was always coming home.

[am Bays]

Remember the good old days of FootySA?

I had a conversation with Valleys Virgin about the impact of Campbell on the 85 flag?

I argued GC was under-estimated in his role int eh 85 flag.

Talk to some of the old timer GFC officials and they say Campbell gave us some "starch" to stand up to the aggressive types.

No whether that was due to recruiting the likes of Stringers X @, giving Scooter and Kidney a crack or his coaching style who knows but by cripes in the mid 80s it wasnt us taking short steps or looking sideways at the contest.

[JK]

Two things I remember about those great Bay sides were obviously the talent they had, but they also became the physically hardest side in the comp - was almost like they took it upon themselves to not be the victims but instigators (in simplistic terms). I’ve always said that the premiership team nearly always has to have those two things in their favour - Ability and physicality. They were a seriously tough side.

[am Bays]

Two things I remember about those great Bay sides were obviously the talent they had, but they also became the physically hardest side in the comp - was almost like they took it upon themselves to not be the victims but instigators (in simplistic terms). I’ve always said that the premiership team nearly always has to have those two things in their favour - Ability and physicality. They were a seriously tough side.

Couldn't agree more.

All premierships have skill and talent they also have that essential CF (C*** factor)

[mal]

RD10
1983
NW V ST
Norwood Oval

NW 4-5...9-8....14-10...20-11
ST..4-2...10-6...15-9.....21-12

I was at this match
It looks like a close game with ST up narrowly at each change and winning by 7 points
But it was not in the last quarter
At the time on or close to time on period of the last quarter NW led by about 4 goals
ST kicked an amazing 4-5 goals in close to time on or in time on to win the match
I was stunned how this could happen especially as ST did it without Rick Jumbo Prince Davies who scored an amazing 151 goals in 1983
His replacement was Ian Wilmott who scored 6 goals for the blues

By seasons end there was an incredible 4 players who scored 100+ goals
149 Rick Jumbo Prince Davies
111 Neville Rocky Roberts
109 Grenville Dietrich
101 Roger Luders

RD21 PA V ST 2nds
Ian Wilmott scored 6 goals and had scored 95 goals in the 2nds


RD 22 ST V SA 2nds
Wilmott kicks 2 goals for a minor round finish of 97 goals in the 2nds

2NDS ELIMINATION FINAL
WT...2-4....5-6......14-16...16-18
ST....5-5...11-12...12-12....15-17

ST were leading my 42 points at half time, lost by 7 points, and were eliminated
ST won 3 of the 4 quarters and lost
Ian Wilmotts season finished
Willmott kicked 2 goals in this match
Wilmott finished on 99 goals in the seconds
If only ST had won a match they led by 42 points at half time, then surely Ian Wilmott in the next final scores the goal he needed for a ton
The irony is he scored 105 goals for the season for the ST club