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by am Bays » Wed May 14, 2025 10:04 am
Brodlach wrote: Most inside mids have ordinary disposal efficiency
I'm talking team
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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by woodublieve12 » Wed May 14, 2025 10:08 am
Dutchy wrote: Armchair expert wrote: Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data Champion Data = Pile of horse poo
Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.
I wouldn't have thought
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by Dutchy » Wed May 14, 2025 10:11 am
am Bays wrote: Dutchy wrote: Armchair expert wrote: Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data Champion Data = Pile of horse poo
Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.
Ha I'll remember that the next time a 40 m F50 entry misses the target and is either a LBG or intercept mark to the defending team who then slingshots it out the other side for a sausage down the other end
Really Dutchy???
I get your point about kicking efficiency as a percentage as that can be misleading but there is clear data that shows the absolute number of effectitive kicks/disposals is a key stat that = wins
Happy to show you the article
Its all about context, fans seeing kicking efficiency and get mislead as they dont drill down on it, the clubs/coaches absolutely drill down on it and can see every disposal from a player from a game with a click of a mouse.
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by Trader » Wed May 14, 2025 11:40 am
gadj1976 wrote: Dutchy wrote: Armchair expert wrote: Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data Champion Data = Pile of horse poo
Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.
Hahaa, really? Ok.
Yup, it's true.
ABC did an article on it in 2023.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-01/ ... /102420562 As per Champion Data and the AFL, an effective kick is where the ball finds a teammate, or is kicked to a contest at least 40 metres away.
The article goes into detail on the difference between effective and ball retention, but that line above is all you need to confirm that a long kick is automatically effective, in the afl's eyes anyway.
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by wenchbarwer » Wed May 14, 2025 11:43 am
It's the only reason Andy McGrath has a high % of "effective" kicks
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by whufc » Wed May 14, 2025 11:47 am
Champion Data Term Glossary
Effective Long Kick: A kick of more than 40m to a 50/50 contest or better for the team.
https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/
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by Dutchy » Wed May 14, 2025 5:27 pm
The clubs will also receive detailed stats on up to 4 different kick types, so very easy to identify the efficiency of a player, again something the public dont have access to, as far as Im aware
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by Brodlach » Sat May 17, 2025 7:31 pm
Same thing again, just can’t play 4 quarters Frustrating
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by MW » Sat May 17, 2025 7:59 pm
Sums up where we are at
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by locky801 » Sat May 17, 2025 8:31 pm
Brodlach wrote: Same thing again, just can’t play 4 quarters Frustrating
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by Go for it » Sat May 17, 2025 10:19 pm
Once again a very frustrating lose. Just doing to many basic things wrong. Missed some pretty easy goals for AFL players. Fog and Peatling giving away 50 resulting in goals. Worrell has time fumble in the goal square holding the ball goal. Time on goals is a real issue. Should have given Tex a rest and had another look at Draper. Smith probably not in our best 23 any more but for some reason feel like he would have been really handy today.
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by Brodlach » Tue May 20, 2025 11:26 am
Did this for Port, incoming trades and free agents 2018 McAdam 2019 Frampton 2020 Hinge 2021 Dawson 2022 Rankine 2023 Burgess 2024 Peatling ANB Cumming This decade has been handy
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by Booney » Tue May 20, 2025 11:42 am
Good value from the go home factor there.
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by Brodlach » Tue May 20, 2025 11:48 am
Draft picks have been of high quality mostly too. I was really surprised
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by wenchbarwer » Tue May 20, 2025 11:48 am
Adelaide has almost had the inverse of Port's drafting, their mid range picks are good but the top liners haven't set the world on fire. Thilthorpe and finally Fogarty excluded, and looks like they made the right call with Curtin, so potentially this has been sorted?
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by Booney » Tue May 20, 2025 11:50 am
Brodlach wrote: Draft picks have been of high quality mostly too. I was really surprised
9 first rounders after the bottom out and most have been worth while.
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by Brodlach » Tue May 20, 2025 11:57 am
Draft since 2020 Both free pickups as rookies Borlase Newchurch Thilthorpe* Pedlar* Cook* Berry Rowe N Murray Parnell (mid season) 2021 Rachele* Soligo Taylor Nankervis Turner (mid season) 2022 Michaelanny* Dowling Bond Brown Keane 2023 Curtin* Edwards* Ryan* Gallagher T Murray 2024 Draper* Welsh McAndrew * top 30 pick
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by Dutchy » Wed May 21, 2025 8:56 am
Brodlach wrote: Did this for Port, incoming trades and free agents 2018 McAdam 2019 Frampton 2020 Hinge 2021 Dawson 2022 Rankine 2023 Burgess 2024 Peatling ANB Cumming This decade has been handy
Let one of them go to win a flag elsewhere though
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by Armchair expert » Wed May 21, 2025 9:12 am
Who drafted the best over that period?
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by daysofourlives » Wed May 21, 2025 5:40 pm
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