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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby tigerpie » Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:52 am

MW wrote:The call for reduced penalty because he spoke up "straight away" is rubbish.
Essendon players heard it, called him out on the field and made the umpire aware. He had no choice but to report it to the club at the break.

I did say that in my post.
He knew he was in the shit so fessed up.
Maybe a tiny penalty reduction, maybe?
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby beef » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:08 pm

dedja wrote:Let’s not hang him either.

His wife has terminal cancer FFS, let’s get some perspective.

I’d be amazed if there is a single person on this site who has never said the words uttered by Clarkson or Finlayson.

Let him suffer whatever the court of public opinion will deliver and let it be.

Last time I looked we had freedom of speech. And before some people start having a go at me, I was incessantly racially vilified when I was young, even with racist taunts that had nothing to do with my heritage. :shock:

There shouldn’t be any difference between racial and sexual taunts.

Not sure what difference it makes that his wife has cancer
Im pretty confident "most" of this site have not uttered the words in their work place though
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby dedja » Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:16 pm

My point is that saying things in private then denouncing them publicly is the purest form of a hypocrite.

Most people do it.

We agree to disagree which is more than cool.

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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Jim05 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:08 pm

Suspended for 3 games.
His surname obviously isn’t Clarkson
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Booney » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:11 pm

AFL press release on Jeremy Finlayson
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The AFL wishes to advise that Port Adelaide player Jeremy Finlayson has been found guilty of breaching AFL Rule 2.3(a) (Conduct Unbecoming) in relation to an incident during the third quarter of Friday’s nights match against Essendon.

Finlayson used an unprompted and highly offensive homophobic slur against an Essendon opponent, which demeans and denigrates persons regardless of their sexuality.

Finlayson has received a three-match suspension and is required to attend appropriate Pride in Sport training as approved by the AFL in which Finlayson will pay for personally.

He will not be eligible to play for Port Adelaide during Round 5, 6 and 7, including playing in the SANFL.

In determining the sanction, the AFL took into account Finlayson’s immediate apology and contrition, both privately on the night, publicly the next day and again on Monday.

To be clear, without the full and frank admissions, apologies and contrition that Finlayson showed, the sanction would have included a longer suspension.

“Everyone, including Jeremy understands the word he used is both hurtful and totally unacceptable in any setting, ever,” AFL General Counsel Stephen Meade said.

“The AFL is very clear that homophobia has no place in our game, nor in society. We want all people in LGBTQI+ communities to feel safe playing or attending our games and we know the incident that happened on the weekend does not assist this goal. As a code we will continue to work together to improve our game as a safe and inclusive environment for all.

“The AFL will continue to consider the specific circumstances in each incident in determining appropriate responses. Jeremy’s sanction would have been higher if he didn’t immediately understand and take ownership of his mistake both privately and publicly.”

All AFL and AFLW Players and officials receive yearly education regarding vilification and the effects of such behaviour, and we will continue to build on anti-vilification training across our code at all levels.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:12 pm

Jim05 wrote:Suspended for 3 games.
His surname obviously isn’t Clarkson


The worlds gone mad!
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby MW » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:18 pm

amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Suspended for 3 games.
His surname obviously isn’t Clarkson


The worlds gone mad!


Maybe...just maybe the two incidents between Finlayson and Clarko were not the same?
The fact he got a "discount' for owning up probably means it was heading for the same penalty as Tex.
Quite telling really...
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby stan » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:20 pm

He was always going to get games. The AFL needed to come out and make a stand as they missed the boat with Clarkson. With Dillions comments earlier in the week it was clear he was getting games.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:23 pm

Jim05 wrote:Suspended for 3 games.
His surname obviously isn’t Clarkson


Yeah weird that he gets games Clarkson doesn't.

Not surprised he went because you cant have teams / the league supporting the Yes vote etc and then not punish players but my brain is fried on modern society and where all this sits.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:25 pm

So is this Essendon player actually gay?
So you've seen everything have you?
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Well you haven't seen everything then have you.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:27 pm

MW wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Suspended for 3 games.
His surname obviously isn’t Clarkson


The worlds gone mad!


Maybe...just maybe the two incidents between Finlayson and Clarko were not the same?
The fact he got a "discount' for owning up probably means it was heading for the same penalty as Tex.
Quite telling really...


The AFL should have suspended Clarkson if they wanted to set the tone here.
Not wait til a player said it in the heat of the moment.
The AFL are weak as piss really
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby MW » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:27 pm

Agree Clarko should have been suspended if for nothing more than his history of offences
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby dedja » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:32 pm

Bum Crack wrote:So is this Essendon player actually gay?


The irony of the name of the poster with the post itself. :lol:

NTTAWTT

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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:35 pm

MW wrote:Agree Clarko should have been suspended if for nothing more than his history of offences


Clarkson getting away with it and Finlayson getting suspended makes you think........is there degrees when it comes to racist/homophobic comments?

Whether you direct it at someone who is gay vs someone who isnt?
Whether you use the word Clarkson used versus the word gay?

Their probably isnt...... is there?
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:41 pm

Bum Crack wrote:So is this Essendon player actually gay?

That’s the question that rings in my head!

Is it offensive if the victim isn’t?
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby whufc » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:43 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:So is this Essendon player actually gay?

That’s the question that rings in my head!

Is it offensive if the victim isn’t?


If it's used in a derogatory term it's still going to be deemed offensive as any of those players could be gay but yet to come out.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:44 pm

Dutchy wrote:
dedja wrote:.

I’d be amazed if there is a single person on this site who has never said the words uttered by Clarkson or Finlayson.



Agree however I would be surprised if anyone here has said it in the last 15 years.

Lets not forget footballers live in a different world, absolutely no excuse, but they are miles from a "normal" upbringing.

I would suggest he will get off lighter than Tex as he put his hand up straight away.

It wasn’t that long ago when the term “college poofs” was written on the ammo pages almost daily
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Dutchy » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:44 pm

MW wrote:The call for reduced penalty because he spoke up "straight away" is rubbish.
Essendon players heard it, called him out on the field and made the umpire aware. He had no choice but to report it to the club at the break.


I think it plays a huge part, he could have still denied it, but to his credit he has owned it straight away - that's all you can ask.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:44 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:So is this Essendon player actually gay?

That’s the question that rings in my head!

Is it offensive if the victim isn’t?


Has the player said he was?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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Re: PAFC 2024

Postby Bum Crack » Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:45 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
dedja wrote:.

I’d be amazed if there is a single person on this site who has never said the words uttered by Clarkson or Finlayson.



Agree however I would be surprised if anyone here has said it in the last 15 years.

Lets not forget footballers live in a different world, absolutely no excuse, but they are miles from a "normal" upbringing.

I would suggest he will get off lighter than Tex as he put his hand up straight away.

It wasn’t that long ago when the term “college poofs” was written on the ammo pages almost daily

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