PAFC 2024

[whufc]

Zak Butters signs a 2 year contract extension keeping him at Alberton until the end of 2026.

You surprised it’s not longer?

Maybe a hint Butters will review the 'go home' factor at that point.

You just make shit up?

Prob more that his value will be double in 2026 and can negotiate a better contract.

Either way its more favorable to the player than it is to the club.

By then Port will be out of their 'premiership window', Kenny will be in year 42 at the helm and steering the club in the rebuild and he can get a nice big deal back to a vic club that is set to have a genuine finals crack

Anyway, its obvious his not guaranteeing anything about being a one club player and his keeping his options open. Goodluck to him whatever happens. Port definitely would have wanted to lock him in for one of them 5,6,7 year deals we see so often now.

[Lightning McQueen]

Tredders qualifications for joining the board?

Better than Koch's as President

Here's me thinking there wouldn't be any stupid posts in here today.

Your one just trumped his

[Booney]

Pardon?

[RB]

Tredders qualifications for joining the board?

Better than Koch's as President

Here's me thinking there wouldn't be any stupid posts in here today.

Not necessarily disagreeing but what are Kochie's qualifications? (Beyond having a lower stumble rate than Tredders)

[Booney]

You really need it explained?

[RB]

Humour me

[Booney]

One day.

[stan]

Tredders qualifications for joining the board?

Better than Koch's as President

Here's me thinking there wouldn't be any stupid posts in here today.

Eh what?

Honestly if there wasn't some stupid posts on here, then I'd be worried that the Russians hack the site.

[Booney]

Tredders qualifications for joining the board?

Better than Koch's as President

Here's me thinking there wouldn't be any stupid posts in here today.

Eh what?

Honestly if there wasn't some stupid posts on here, then I'd be worried that the Russians hack the site.

That's true mate. I mean, when Koch took over Port we were on the brink of collapse since then he's reduced debt year on year with his financial nous, he's taken us to China where we engaged with MG who are the most committed major sponsor we've had in years through his business connections but you guys knew all that anyway. Add in the three top 4 finishes in the last 4 years ( yes, yes, I know ) and record membership and he's hardly had any impact.

And despite his numerous foot-in-mouth moments the old saying any publicity is good publicity is true. But again, I don't need to humor you with all that.

[MW]

Would you give most of that up if Kochie made the hard decision with Ken and you won a flag in the last couple of years?
Can't fault his business nous, but his football nous is horrendous.

[Booney]

Would you give most of that up if Kochie made the hard decision with Ken and you won a flag in the last couple of years?
Can't fault his business nous, but his football nous is horrendous.

Chicken / egg. Without the debt reduction we wouldn't be having the debate at all.

At the risk of repeating myself we've been in a position to win one, twice. 2020 and 2021, the players didn't execute and we're here with nothing to show for it and I maintain once it gets to prelim final weekend the coach(es) got you there, it's over to the players to execute and they weren't able too.

[MW]

Would you give most of that up if Kochie made the hard decision with Ken and you won a flag in the last couple of years?
Can't fault his business nous, but his football nous is horrendous.

Chicken / egg. Without the debt reduction we wouldn't be having the debate at all.

At the risk of repeating myself we've been in a position to win one, twice. 2020 and 2021, the players didn't execute and we're here with nothing to show for it and I maintain once it gets to prelim final weekend the coach(es) got you there, it's over to the players to execute and they weren't able too.

Interesting take.
I would think you need a game plan to withstand finals as we all know finals is a much different game than home/away.

[whufc]

Would you give most of that up if Kochie made the hard decision with Ken and you won a flag in the last couple of years?
Can't fault his business nous, but his football nous is horrendous.

Chicken / egg. Without the debt reduction we wouldn't be having the debate at all.

At the risk of repeating myself we've been in a position to win one, twice. 2020 and 2021, the players didn't execute and we're here with nothing to show for it and I maintain once it gets to prelim final weekend the coach(es) got you there, it's over to the players to execute and they weren't able too.

I would say the coaches role is just as important moreso it changes the deeper you get into a finals series.

The coaches focus is less on being a strategical genius (by this stage of the season i doubt your changing structures/systems) with his role more focused on player management, having the players mentally prepared, clear minded, positive, confident etc.

The deeper it goes the communication element of the job would become even more crucial with players being dropped, selected etc which always adds an interesting dynamic to a change room once finals are upon us. Ensuring the leadership group both players and coaches are all on the page would be the coaches main focus at that point i would imagine. Especially keeping in mind despite being professionals there would be a 'human' element to it all eg leadership disagreeing on selections etc.

[Booney]

That's why there's no recipe for success, nobody really knows but I stand by my view that come the last two weeks of the year if you need someone to motivate you to play your role then you're in the wrong game.

Coaches spend the summer drilling down game plans, if those plans work well enough, often enough, you make finals. After that you need to look in the mirror, not for someone to hold your hand.

Interesting take.
I would think you need a game plan to withstand finals as we all know finals is a much different game than home/away.

If your game plan doesn't stand up in the minor round you won't even be there.

[am Bays]

That's why there's no recipe for success, nobody really knows but I stand by my view that come the last two weeks of the year if you need someone to motivate you to play your role then you're in the wrong game.

Coaches spend the summer drilling down game plans, if those plans work well enough, often enough, you make finals. After that you need to look in the mirror, not for someone to hold your hand.

Interesting take.
I would think you need a game plan to withstand finals as we all know finals is a much different game than home/away.

If your game plan doesn't stand up in the minor round you won't even be there.

Genuinely serious attempt at a post

Agree with Booney I think the last three finals do come down to the players. To be so relatively uncompetitive at the contest is on them.

Now, are Port recruiting the wrong blokes - look good in the minor round but cant withstand the heat of finals footy, are they too top heavy with talent and the other players lack finals footy class or they are too comfortable with Kens voice to take the next step are some of the questions.

The off field stuff appears to be in hand to this outsider.

[whufc]

That's why there's no recipe for success, nobody really knows but I stand by my view that come the last two weeks of the year if you need someone to motivate you to play your role then you're in the wrong game.

Coaches spend the summer drilling down game plans, if those plans work well enough, often enough, you make finals. After that you need to look in the mirror, not for someone to hold your hand.

Interesting take.
I would think you need a game plan to withstand finals as we all know finals is a much different game than home/away.

If your game plan doesn't stand up in the minor round you won't even be there.

I 100% agree there is no locked in recipe for success. I'm a Hinkley fan btw.

I don't think its so much about being motivated, I'm sure they are all motivated. It would be more so about having each player in a good mental head space (for them as an individual) and creating an environment that allows for individuals to thrive when the immense pressure hits. At all levels of sport there is blokes who stand up in the big games and blokes that go missing. How do you get the best out of each person under pressure is the trick to coaching in finals imo.

Even as country bumkins playing spud sport you feel the rise in pressure, intensity, importance at our level of sport so could barely imagine what that feels like at the professional level.

I dont watch Port close enough but i will also admit that there is certain styles of football that tend to stand up better under finals pressure. I could accept that a coach may have a style that works well in the minor round but when it comes to finals, the pressure is on, the game is pretty much umpired different etc that a style might not stand up. I think the general consensus and it stood up well was that Collingwood had a style of football that not only will win minor games but was also going to stand up to finals football well.

I guess its what makes the game so fascinating. Thats all before we start to talk about the physically peaking element etc etc.

[amber_fluid]

Ken has no plan B which you need come finals time.
You can fake it in the minor rounds but not when the heats on in finals.
Momentum is hard to stop but you at least need a game plan for when it happens.
You won’t always have the game on your terms.

[MW]

Ken has no plan B which you need come finals time.
You can fake it in the minor rounds but not when the heats on in finals.
Momentum is hard to stop but you at least need a game plan for when it happens.
You won’t always have the game on your terms.

Shhhhh

[Booney]

Ken has no plan B which you need come finals time.
You can fake it in the minor rounds but not when the heats on in finals.
Momentum is hard to stop but you at least need a game plan for when it happens.
You won’t always have the game on your terms.

Fair dinkum.

[amber_fluid]

Ken has no plan B which you need come finals time.
You can fake it in the minor rounds but not when the heats on in finals.
Momentum is hard to stop but you at least need a game plan for when it happens.
You won’t always have the game on your terms.

Fair dinkum.

C’mon mate with a side as good as Ports you can play half rat shit and still make it.