by Jim05 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:52 am
by whufc » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:41 am
Jim05 wrote:All 6 EPL clubs are out and appears the SL has collapsed.
Ed Woodward quits as United Chairman over the backlash from players and fans
by Booney » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:25 am
by Senor Moto Gadili » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:30 am
whufc wrote:Jim05 wrote:All 6 EPL clubs are out and appears the SL has collapsed.
Ed Woodward quits as United Chairman over the backlash from players and fans
Find this weird as I agree with JK in that the ultimate motive was to push for better CL conditions in their favour eg guaranteed spot in the comp.
Surely the owners expected the level of backlash they received , I know there not extremely close to the fans or the traditions but surely their advisors/board members had an idea the feedback was coming.
I'm wondering whether it had UEFA scared enough that some deals have been over the last 24 hours about the future of the CL.
by Wedgie » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:41 am
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by JK » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:52 am
by tigerpie » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:54 am
Jim05 wrote:All 6 EPL clubs are out and appears the SL has collapsed.
Ed Woodward quits as United Chairman over the backlash from players and fans
by RB » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:18 am
tigerpie wrote:Can you imagine the whole of Manchester not being in the premier league.
There'd be riots!
by Jim05 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:45 am
by JK » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:19 am
Jim05 wrote:The big clubs got what they wanted in a way. Champions League increased to a bigger format and with more games and dollars with 4 “invited” clubs per year able to be added on “historical value” so on any given year if any of the big clubs miss out on CL qualification on their own merit they can be added. Rumoured that UEFA has “paid” the EPL clubs to pull out of the SL aswell
by whufc » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:31 pm
JK wrote:Jim05 wrote:The big clubs got what they wanted in a way. Champions League increased to a bigger format and with more games and dollars with 4 “invited” clubs per year able to be added on “historical value” so on any given year if any of the big clubs miss out on CL qualification on their own merit they can be added. Rumoured that UEFA has “paid” the EPL clubs to pull out of the SL aswell
I can't say Im across all the cloak and dagger details, but I thought the "bigger" clubs didn't want to see the number of UCL participants increased? If anything I thought they wanted a reduction?
Either way I don't care too much now .. The setup of football leagues with their promotion/relegation and qualification systems have usually been the envy of other codes (just on Aussie Rules how many times over the years have people discussed and wished for promotion/relegation??) and represent a fairness for all to control their own destiny to a fair degree (obviously $$ can be prohibitive for many).
by whufc » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:33 pm
by Jim05 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:41 pm
According to fan polls, all of the EPL sides had only about a 5-10% of fans who supported the move. The Spanish clubs were up around 20-30% and Juventus was over 50%whufc wrote:Side note, we have heard all about the EPL 6.
Whats happening with the other 6 teams, have they seen the same supporter backlash, were they planning on pulling out before the breakdown?
by RB » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:50 pm
Jim05 wrote:4 “invited” clubs per year able to be added on “historical value” so on any given year if any of the big clubs miss out on CL qualification on their own merit they can be added.
by RB » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:52 pm
by whufc » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:53 pm
Jim05 wrote:According to fan polls, all of the EPL sides had only about a 5-10% of fans who supported the move. The Spanish clubs were up around 20-30% and Juventus was over 50%whufc wrote:Side note, we have heard all about the EPL 6.
Whats happening with the other 6 teams, have they seen the same supporter backlash, were they planning on pulling out before the breakdown?
Real Madrid and Juventus haven’t ruled out pushing for it again down the track
by JK » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:06 pm
whufc wrote:Jim05 wrote:According to fan polls, all of the EPL sides had only about a 5-10% of fans who supported the move. The Spanish clubs were up around 20-30% and Juventus was over 50%whufc wrote:Side note, we have heard all about the EPL 6.
Whats happening with the other 6 teams, have they seen the same supporter backlash, were they planning on pulling out before the breakdown?
Real Madrid and Juventus haven’t ruled out pushing for it again down the track
I'm wondering in Juventus case the support is so high because they have literally taken the piss out of their comp to the point they feel they need a new challenge.
by Jim05 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:32 pm
Clubs only pulled out because they knew the comp was doomed this time around.JK wrote:whufc wrote:Jim05 wrote:According to fan polls, all of the EPL sides had only about a 5-10% of fans who supported the move. The Spanish clubs were up around 20-30% and Juventus was over 50%whufc wrote:Side note, we have heard all about the EPL 6.
Whats happening with the other 6 teams, have they seen the same supporter backlash, were they planning on pulling out before the breakdown?
Real Madrid and Juventus haven’t ruled out pushing for it again down the track
I'm wondering in Juventus case the support is so high because they have literally taken the piss out of their comp to the point they feel they need a new challenge.
I'd guess that like most of the bigger clubs, they have leveraged themselves so heavily (like I said only a guess and Jim would know better) that with the drop in Revenue in the Pandemic era they desperately needed it to go ahead from a financial perspective. To that end, I was surprised Barca pulled out because they appear to be on a seriously financial precipice.
by Senor Moto Gadili » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:26 pm
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