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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:20 pm

Aerie

once again,

Hudson is 29 next Feb, no crows policy present Huddo from obtaining a 3 year deal

the crows policy prevents a player from having more than a 1 year deal once he turns 30

I just wish people, including the media got the facts correct

Yes his age would of come in to consideration, however the club was not restricted by policy
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:23 pm

sydney-dog wrote:the crows policy prevents a player from having more than a 1 year deal once he turns 30


Umm, that's the whole point, he wants a 3 year contract from age 29, ie 2 years from age 30.
The Crows only want him to have 1 year contract from 30 not 2 like he'd get if he got a 3 year contract now.
John Reid even said as much on 5AA tonight.

sydney-dog wrote:I just wish people, including the media got the facts correct


Amen brudda, agreed!
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:32 pm

Wedgie,

the club can offer a 3 year term to a player if his contract is signed before he is 30, however it is unlikely, but it is not restricted by policy

whether we like it or not, the game has changed

today we have seen the retirement of Rowan Jones at the age of 27...

my view, the rule changes to the game, will force players to earlier retirements, very few players drafted now will play until they are 32, this is why, clubs will minimise the potential risks that come with 3 year terms, especially when players are approaching 30.

20 years is a long time in footy, 3 years is an eternity
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Hondo » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:33 pm

Geez, this is a mole-hill thats starting to look like Mt Everest :roll:

Players move on from all clubs every year

The guy clearly wants to go home and luckily for him he has got another offer on the table - good luck to him, we'll get something for him and we'll all get on with life

We have enough options in ruck and more so if we can get Cam Wood

Huddo is turning into Dean Cox as this thread goes on :D
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:36 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Wedgie,

the club can offer a 3 year term to a player if his contract is signed before he is 30, however it is unlikely, but it is not restricted by policy


Don't explain it to me mate, explain it to John Reid, he was the one I was quoting.
If you know more than him, fair enough. :?
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:41 pm

JR is in conflict with Steven Trigg

because when Macca was out of contract at the age of 29, Trggy came out and explained the policy, in specific, their was nothing preventing the crows from offering Macca a 3 year deal
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:45 pm

Anway, hopefully the crows may target Jordan McMahon
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:49 pm

sydney-dog wrote:JR is in conflict with Steven Trigg

because when Macca was out of contract at the age of 29, Trggy came out and explained the policy, in specific, their was nothing preventing the crows from offering Macca a 3 year deal

Christ, everyone's in conflict with everyone down there at the moment. Im glad you're in charge looking after things syd and know more than your General Manager of Football Operations! :lol:

And what would their official site now?

www.afc.com.au wrote:Hudson, who turns 29 in February, sought a three-season deal but was told by the Crows they would not give him more than two, in keeping with their policy of offering only one-year deals to players beyond the age of 30.


You know more than John Reid and the official Crows site and all from little old Sydney!? :roll: :lol:
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:03 pm

Wedgie

As I said, JR's policy statement, is conflicting, to Steven Trigg's policy clarification, 18 months ago

Steve Trigg, clearly explained to members, that age 30 was the trigger point for 1 year terms, and any length of term can be negotiated prior to a player turning 30
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:07 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Wedgie

As I said, JR's policy statement, is conflicting, to Steven Trigg's policy clarification, 18 months ago

Steve Trigg, clearly explained to members, that age 30 was the trigger point for 1 year terms, and any length of term can be negotiated prior to a player turning 30


OK mate, as I said, don't blame me, I think its great that you have the offiicial word but the General Manager of Football Operations and the official Adelaide Football Club website have things completely wrong.

I have no idea why the Crows are imploding when a supporter in Sydney actually has more idea than the the GM of Footblal Operations and the club's official online site! :lol:
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:23 pm

Wedgie

all I have said, that their is a conflict in the communications provided by the club on this subject

in a communication to all members 18 months ago, ST explanation on the policy, this explanation is different to JR's

so cut the crap regarding, I have the official word, or that I know more than the general manager of football

I have never implied that,
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Wedgie » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:26 pm

Mate, I think they would have visited yesterday exactly what their policy is when they leaked the details of the event to the press. My only point is things are a mess down there if they're changing policies or don't know what the hell they are. :?
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:37 pm

no doubt, their is a conflict of communication regarding this matter, however

for argument sake, if their were no policy restrictions, it would not change the outcome

the crows still would of only offered Huddo 2 years, regardless... FULL STOP

I will also add, if the crows had offered Huddo, 3 years, this too would not of changed the outcome, Huddo was hell bent on returning to Melb and to his Weribee mates, further more, if Huddo did not sustain a knee injury, he would of returned earlier if an offer was available

I was be PISSED if the club offered Huddo a 3 year deal, our list has became stagnant, I would of hated to see Huddo and Bigland's share the ruck duties next year, while Griffen and Maric play out another year in the SANFL
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Psyber » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:49 pm

Hudson is not that good - I think the Crows were right to offer what they think he is worth and look for a trade deal if he doesn't like it. Anyone who has to be suspended for indiscipline has to be seen as a dubious future prospect anyway. Give him half a season with a club that lets him dictate terms and his form slump will land him back with Werribee.
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby Stumps » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:07 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Anway, hopefully the crows may target Jordan McMahon

totally agree SD. would be agood swap
i reckon maric is a hudson clone and we wont lose too much if biglands is fit too
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby MatteeG » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:26 pm

Where is everyone getting the idea that Biglands is hard at it?

Soft as shite IMO. Tarzan, Jane etc...
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby haloman » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:58 pm

Wedgie wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:who cares its only Hudson, Rhett Biglands is better then Hudson, Biglands can play all over the ground...

Agreed, and Hudson's only 3rd in the league as far as hard ball gets, I'm sure Rhett will improve on that. :lol:

Who cares if a ruckman is winning hard footies?
Let me see....... Ruckman jumps up.......falls down..........falls on footy..........wrestles smaller oponents for it.........wins it.
All that equals a hard ball get. Yah what a champ. :roll:
Never been a Hudson fan. Sure he tries hard but so what.
The Crows have needed a ruckman who can win a tap to ADVANTAGE this season. Maybe Clarke didn't get much of the footy or use it that well but he sure could send it down the throat of our on ballers whose JOB it was to use it properly. I watched every game this season including 5 or 6 live and I can count on one hand the number of times Hudson beat ANYONE in the tap out count. What was Hudson's stats on taps to advantage? Ruck work is a craft, one that Hudson is simply no good at. Who wants a 6ft 4in Ruckman winning hard footies if he can't perform his primary function. That quality in a ruckman is a BONUS not a must have. With the quality midfield we have we need someone who can give us first use of it, not get it under presure. Good luck to him and who ever picks him up but don't expect him to do to much......he's not capable of it. If we can't trade for a tap ruckman then we need to develop one, plain and simple.
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby RustyCage » Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:04 am

MatteeG wrote:Where is everyone getting the idea that Biglands is hard at it?

Soft as shite IMO. Tarzan, Jane etc...


I remember when Rhett tried to bowl over Pickett and ended up knocking himself out!!
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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby the wonder elephant » Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:12 am

haloman wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:who cares its only Hudson, Rhett Biglands is better then Hudson, Biglands can play all over the ground...

Agreed, and Hudson's only 3rd in the league as far as hard ball gets, I'm sure Rhett will improve on that. :lol:

Who cares if a ruckman is winning hard footies?
Let me see....... Ruckman jumps up.......falls down..........falls on footy..........wrestles smaller oponents for it.........wins it.
All that equals a hard ball get. Yah what a champ. :roll:
Never been a Hudson fan. Sure he tries hard but so what.
The Crows have needed a ruckman who can win a tap to ADVANTAGE this season. Maybe Clarke didn't get much of the footy or use it that well but he sure could send it down the throat of our on ballers whose JOB it was to use it properly. I watched every game this season including 5 or 6 live and I can count on one hand the number of times Hudson beat ANYONE in the tap out count. What was Hudson's stats on taps to advantage? Ruck work is a craft, one that Hudson is simply no good at. Who wants a 6ft 4in Ruckman winning hard footies if he can't perform his primary function. That quality in a ruckman is a BONUS not a must have. With the quality midfield we have we need someone who can give us first use of it, not get it under presure. Good luck to him and who ever picks him up but don't expect him to do to much......he's not capable of it. If we can't trade for a tap ruckman then we need to develop one, plain and simple.

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Re: Hudson quits Crows

Postby sydney-dog » Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:50 am

as reported in the crap-tiser, this would be a good outcome for Adelaide

Adelaide would lose Hudson and McGregor to the Bulldogs - and its No. 10 draft pick to Brisbane.

In return, the Crows get, with these advantages:

ROOKIE ruckman Cameron Wood, 20, who would return home to be part of an inexperienced Adelaide ruck unit working to the lead of Rhett Biglands in his comeback season from a serious knee injury.

DEFENDER Jordan McMahon, 24, who allows Craig to finally release Graham Johncock from Adelaide's back six to play in the midfield rotations.

PACY key position player Stephen Tiller, 20, who offers speed to a team needing it.

DRAFT pick No. 5 from the Bulldogs that advances the Crows five spots from the No. 10 it currently holds and sends to Brisbane in return for Wood. This enhances Adelaide's hopes of claiming Port Adelaide Magpies midfielder-forward and SA under-18 captain Brad Ebert in November's national draft.
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