Booney wrote:The law relating to penalty runs, doesn't it need a warning to be given before a 5 run penalty is awarded?
There were a number of close run outs given not out which were all safe. A caught behind appeal was adjudged not out and a para hills bowler allegedly kicked the stumps down. You dont deserve a warning when you kick the stumps down IMO.
Booney wrote:The law relating to penalty runs, doesn't it need a warning to be given before a 5 run penalty is awarded?
There were a number of close run outs given not out which were all safe. A caught behind appeal was adjudged not out and a para hills bowler allegedly kicked the stumps down. You dont deserve a warning when you kick the stumps down IMO.
If that's what occurred then I have no problem with the penalty.
Take Caleb's comments with a grain of salt, he's originally from the Ramblers and is about as one eyed as they come.
Not saying what he has said is incorrect but generally speaking if a Ramblers player had kicked the stumps, he'd find a way to blame it on the oppositions scorer
Booney wrote:The law relating to penalty runs, doesn't it need a warning to be given before a 5 run penalty is awarded?
There were a number of close run outs given not out which were all safe. A caught behind appeal was adjudged not out and a para hills bowler allegedly kicked the stumps down. You dont deserve a warning when you kick the stumps down IMO.
If that's what occurred then I have no problem with the penalty.
Agree, ironically I was scoring my son's semi final yesterday and a ball hit a helmet that was sitting behind the keeper, umpire correctly gave 5 runs to the batting team, had no idea how to record it in the book other than make a seperate entry under Sundries.
Played nearly 40 years of cricket and still see something you haven't come across before.
The_Observant_One wrote:Take Caleb's comments with a grain of salt, he's originally from the Ramblers and is about as one eyed as they come.
Not saying what he has said is incorrect but generally speaking if a Ramblers player had kicked the stumps, he'd find a way to blame it on the oppositions scorer
Lol. All this hate towards the Ramblers is hilarious. Im just going on what i was told and if you do read the comment I do say "allegedly", hardly one eyed champ.
The_Observant_One wrote:Take Caleb's comments with a grain of salt, he's originally from the Ramblers and is about as one eyed as they come.
Not saying what he has said is incorrect but generally speaking if a Ramblers player had kicked the stumps, he'd find a way to blame it on the oppositions scorer
Lol. All this hate towards the Ramblers is hilarious. Im just going on what i was told and if you do read the comment I do say "allegedly", hardly one eyed champ.
I may well have played against caleb, I wouldn't be doing either Coro side any favors mate.
You say "allegedly" I say "If that's what happened" you cop a whack.
Harry49 wrote:No stumps were kicked down. The 5 run penalty was for swearing at the umpire
Is that a rule?
How do umpires determine what is a runs penalty and what is a report? Would seem dangerously subjective.
Yes, it's a rule in ATCA, but not sure if it applies to SAMCA games. Obviously the umpire thoight it did. In ATCA, the use of the 5 run penalty should be preceded by a first and final warning, which could involve a player being put on report. Any furtber indiscretions would incur a 5 run penalty.
Harry49 wrote:No stumps were kicked down. The 5 run penalty was for swearing at the umpire
Is that a rule?
How do umpires determine what is a runs penalty and what is a report? Would seem dangerously subjective.
Yes, it's a rule in ATCA, but not sure if it applies to SAMCA games. Obviously the umpire thoight it did. In ATCA, the use of the 5 run penalty should be preceded by a first and final warning, which could involve a player being put on report. Any furtber indiscretions would incur a 5 run penalty.
It is a law of cricket, law 42. There are 4 levels, the first is warning for minor unacceptable conduct and any further minor infringement is 5 penalty runs. Level are slightly more serious unacceptable conduct and penalty runs are awarded without any warning. The third is that a player is sent off for a period of time and level 4 is goodbye, no more involvement in the match. Any level can be a report.
Harry49 wrote:No stumps were kicked down. The 5 run penalty was for swearing at the umpire
Is that a rule?
How do umpires determine what is a runs penalty and what is a report? Would seem dangerously subjective.
Yes, it's a rule in ATCA, but not sure if it applies to SAMCA games. Obviously the umpire thoight it did. In ATCA, the use of the 5 run penalty should be preceded by a first and final warning, which could involve a player being put on report. Any furtber indiscretions would incur a 5 run penalty.
It is a law of cricket, law 42. There are 4 levels, the first is warning for minor unacceptable conduct and any further minor infringement is 5 penalty runs. Level are slightly more serious unacceptable conduct and penalty runs are awarded without any warning. The third is that a player is sent off for a period of time and level 4 is goodbye, no more involvement in the match. Any level can be a report.
ATCA have bylaw D32 which acts in lieu of Law 42. Given this was a SAMCA game, you can only assume Law 42 has been applied correctly if the Para Hills player swore at the umpire. Lucky he wasn't sent off.
I'm sure @Harry49 can fill in the blanks for us. Other than that the 5 runs are added to the oppositions score not deducted from the offending team's score