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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:35 am

Dutchy wrote:I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:
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They all come around eventually :)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:35 am

Dutchy wrote:I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:
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They all come around eventually :)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:35 am

bennymacca wrote:Do you think that sort of public comment would be acceptable in a business setting?

And if not why is it appropriate here when Koch's role is purely on the corporate side and not a football role?


Name me a "business" other than football that invokes that type of passion.

I wrote in my match review I wasn't thrilled by Koch's comments and the timing but I couldn't dispute them, other than his quip at selection.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:36 am

Booney wrote: other than his quip at selection.


It's more than a quip imo. That's my point, Hinkley has every right to be seething about that.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:40 am

bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:
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They all come around eventually :)


It took a mutual hate of Port to bring us together.... :D

Now lets find the Crows thread...
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:42 am

At least Kenny still gets to go to China every year :)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby JK » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:42 am

Looks like Sportsbet and Crownbet have taken down their next Port coach markets
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:43 am

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Dutchy wrote:I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:
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They all come around eventually :)


It took a mutual hate of Port to bring us together.... :D

Now lets find the Crows thread...


I honestly don't hate any other team.

Well maybe hawthorn....

(And south gawler and angaston haha)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:44 am

Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
morell wrote:
bennymacca wrote:Well done kochie you dickhead

notsureifsrs.jpg


Definitely serious

Why would Hinkley stay at a club whose chairman publicly undermines him and his selection policies minutes after a heartbreaking loss.

For a man who prides himself on his business acumen trusts either mindblowingly stupid, or maybe it was designed to push him out?


I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:

Koch just needs to let the footy department be the footy department, look at how united the Western Bulldogs President and Beveridge were last year.
You're both posting under the assumption that Port are desperate to keep Hinkley.

Koch is an outcome focused man. As he ought to be. Every Port supporter I know (who isn't a sycophant happy clapper) absolutely supported his comments. Many wanted him to go further. Also, his comments were very much pouring the acid on the players for not following Ken, not Ken himself.

More #fakenews and suckers buying into media beat ups, it seems.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:45 am

JK wrote:Looks like Sportsbet and Crownbet have taken down their next Port coach markets


What do they know then?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:46 am

Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:47 am

Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.


Why wouldn't they?

Developed some kids quickly this year, played finals, looks to have great relationships with the players and is contracted.

Or, go with a rookie coach.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:51 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.


Why wouldn't they?

Developed some kids quickly this year, played finals, looks to have great relationships with the players and is contracted.

Or, go with a rookie coach.

Sometimes a coach can only have a certain level of impact and then they plateau. Hinkley has done a great job in his time, and yes developed some young pups, but maybe the time is right to bring in someone whose going to take that developed group and progress them a little bit further forward.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:52 am

Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.
hahahah cmon Dutchy. What are they going to say? You know you're dead as a coach when the CEO or Chairman comes out with the old "he is our coach and we're fully supportive of him". It's akin to a player saying "they're focused on football and finals" when negotiating a contract.

I could very well be that the truth is in the middle. Port would probably be happy to see Ken coach next year and start negotiations for an extension, but aren't willing to offer anywhere near the term or $$$ Gold Coast are, so they've come to a mutual agreement.

but to blame it all on one Koch members interview is unfathomably daft from you two.

You reckon people negotiate million dollar contracts like this on a whim and within a week or two? Pulease. They would've been speaking for months.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby bennymacca » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:52 am

morell wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
morell wrote:[quote="bennymacca"]Well done kochie you dickhead

notsureifsrs.jpg


Definitely serious

Why would Hinkley stay at a club whose chairman publicly undermines him and his selection policies minutes after a heartbreaking loss.

For a man who prides himself on his business acumen trusts either mindblowingly stupid, or maybe it was designed to push him out?


I can't believe I'm agreeing with Benny :shock: :shock:

Koch just needs to let the footy department be the footy department, look at how united the Western Bulldogs President and Beveridge were last year.
You're both posting under the assumption that Port are desperate to keep Hinkley.

Koch is an outcome focused man. As he ought to be. Every Port supporter I know (who isn't a sycophant happy clapper) absolutely supported his comments. Many wanted him to go further. Also, his comments were very much pouring the acid on the players for not following Ken, not Ken himself.

More #fakenews and suckers buying into media beat ups, it seems.[/quote]

What?

I asked the question whether his comments were designed to push ken out.

And I saw the video of his comments and formed my opinion from that. He was definitely criticising ken too - selection policies has nothing to do with the players
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby morell » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:54 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.


Why wouldn't they?

Developed some kids quickly this year, played finals, looks to have great relationships with the players and is contracted.

Or, go with a rookie coach.
Because unlike you, they can see his inherent flaws and think to take the next step might mean getting someone tactically superior.

To the point that perhaps they're not willing to offer a multi year multi million dollar contract to match GC, anyway.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby JK » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:55 am

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:Looks like Sportsbet and Crownbet have taken down their next Port coach markets


What do they know then?


Actually just been informed the markets were pulled* last Friday
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Dutchy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:56 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.


Why wouldn't they?

Developed some kids quickly this year, played finals, looks to have great relationships with the players and is contracted.

Or, go with a rookie coach.


Agree, just stating for those others that are indicating Port don't want him.

IMO Port should do what the can, within reason, to keep him.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:57 am

bennymacca wrote:He was definitely criticising ken too - selection policies has nothing to do with the players

To be fair, he wouldn't be alone this year in questioning selection policies at PAFC..
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Re: Port Adelaide 2017

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:58 am

The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Can only go on what they have said publicly and Port have said they want Ken to stay.


Why wouldn't they?

Developed some kids quickly this year, played finals, looks to have great relationships with the players and is contracted.

Or, go with a rookie coach.

Sometimes a coach can only have a certain level of impact and then they plateau. Hinkley has done a great job in his time, and yes developed some young pups, but maybe the time is right to bring in someone whose going to take that developed group and progress them a little bit further forward.


Maybe the time is right for Hinkley to take this group to the next level. All "maybe's".
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