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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Spargo » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:36 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
MW wrote:Mob mentality in full flight...
Don't let me stop your hatred clouding facts.


Well, what are the facts?
A West official posted on his page that this situation occurred. That post has since been removed. That's enough to cloud the facts.
So what facts do you know?

Come on DW, you should know you don't need facts to come on here & blindly post :lol:
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:47 am

Hey, you just posted a fact.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby stan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:59 am

Keep it down you lot. Stop picking on crows ;)

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Magellan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:03 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:Hey, you just posted a fact.

Hey, if you don't like it, just return to sender! Alternative facts are just as good these days.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Wedgie » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:22 am

Adelaide Crows may need to dust down their VFL file as they become ’on the nose’ in SANFL circles
Michelangelo Rucci, Chief Football Writer, The Advertiser
July 17, 2017 2:00pm

EVERYONE is confused. Do the SANFL clubs want the Crows in their state league or not?

Adelaide Football Club officials always have said they will take the AFL reserves team elsewhere — the VFL or NEAFL — as soon as they know they are not welcome in the SANFL.

The SA Football Commission is firm.

It wants to retain both the Crows and Power AFL reserves in a 10-team SANFL league competition.

The prospect of the Crows joining the VFL — and setting off the trigger for a national AFL reserves series — should concern the commission.

This would push the SANFL to the third tier of Australian football — and redirect much-needed corporate funding and media attention away from the state league. It could mark the end of SANFL football on free-to-air television.

The SANFL clubs are divided.

They have been since August 2013 when the 6-2 vote — to allow AFL reserves teams — introduced the Crows to the SANFL and formalised the “One Club” model at Port Adelaide.

A vote today among the eight traditional SANFL clubs would be just as divided on many fronts. Do they want to retain a 10-team league competition?

Do they want AFL reserves?

Do they want the Crows and Power to work the same models in the SANFL?

Do they want to put a limit on how many AFL-listed players can be in an SANFL league side?

This last question could be the debate breaker.

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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby CUTTERMAN » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:04 am

First bit of research Gucci has done for quite a while, looked back through his own archives and rehashed one of his own articles. Well done Muppetangelo Gucci you can now add "investigative journalist" to your crayoned resume.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:00 pm

State SANFL u15 championships are on and they have 2 divisions, one called Crows and one called Power. I KID YOU NOT.... :roll:

http://sanfl.com.au/2017-sanfl-state-u1 ... pionships/
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby bennymacca » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:55 pm

Dutchy wrote:State SANFL u15 championships are on and they have 2 divisions, one called Crows and one called Power. I KID YOU NOT.... :roll:

http://sanfl.com.au/2017-sanfl-state-u1 ... pionships/


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby goddy11 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:53 pm

Dutchy wrote:State SANFL u15 championships are on and they have 2 divisions, one called Crows and one called Power. I KID YOU NOT.... :roll:

http://sanfl.com.au/2017-sanfl-state-u1 ... pionships/


Well if we thought the SANFL management were on the payroll I think this confirms it. Total Joke.

As an old Torrens man I resent being associated with Port. Just an old dislike.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:57 pm

I'm not sure this is an issue.
Ultimately, that's where the kids want to head.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby am Bays » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:59 pm

Been called that way for a while now, as I understand it, a few years at least.

Nothing to see here move on.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dutchy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:08 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:I'm not sure this is an issue.
Ultimately, that's where the kids want to head.


16 other teams should get a crack then :D
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:14 am

goddy11 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:State SANFL u15 championships are on and they have 2 divisions, one called Crows and one called Power. I KID YOU NOT.... :roll:

http://sanfl.com.au/2017-sanfl-state-u1 ... pionships/


Well if we thought the SANFL management were on the payroll I think this confirms it. Total Joke.

As an old Torrens man I resent being associated with Port. Just an old dislike.


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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Booney » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:50 pm

THE final siren has sounded on the VFL reserves, the Development League.

Clubs had been campaigning to save the competition, calling it an essential bridge between the TAC Cup and VFL seniors.

They said it gave opportunities to hundreds of aspiring players, many of them graduates of the Under 18s.

But last night AFL Victoria CEO Steve Reaper told presidents and general managers that the VFL executive would be recommending to the AFL Victoria board that the Development League be wound up at the end of the season.

The board will meet tomorrow.

AFL Victoria said last month the competition was under review owing to “cost pressures on clubs, scheduling difficulties, pressure on staff and volunteers given the scheduling difficulties, player recruitment, relationships with community clubs and leagues and how to best ensure the senior team can be competitive’’.

AFL Vic spokesman Anthony Stanguts said this morning it would not comment until after tomorrow’s board meeting.

Port Melbourne, Williamstown, Casey Demons, Sandringham, Northern Blues, Coburg, Box Hill Hawks and Werribee all field DL teams.

Williamstown coach Andy Collins, who has been advocating for the retention of the Development League, said this morning: “Very disappointing. I think it will be one of the worst decisions in Victorian football’s history.

“It’s just so important to have elite pathways there for boys at 18 years of age. It shouldn’t be that dreams finish at 18.

“I’ve said this on numerous occasions, a lot of players at that age just aren’t ready for senior football and so they can mature both physically and mentally in the Development League. We’ve seen a lot of examples of that, not just at our football clubs but right around the VFL.


“We’ve seen that if you give them quality coaching and quality facilities they will improve as footballers and as young men. In fact most mature-age footballers who have been recruited from the VFL will have come through Development League.

“It’s expecting a lot of local football to have to pick up the slack and develop them.’’


Sandringham president Danny Corcoran said he was disappointed with the decision.

He said the ramifications for his club, which is aligned with St Kilda, were “considerable in terms of maintaining a list and how we actually run a football club’’.

Former Port Melbourne coach and AFL recruiter Neil Ross tweeted last night that it was a “very sad day for Victorian football, massive blow to the pathway for TAC Cup kids’’.

And former long-standing Williamstown general manager Brendan Curry called it a “farcical and disgraceful decision’’.

A string of AFL players came through the DL, including premiership players Liam Picken (Williamstown) and Taylor Duryea (Box Hill Hawks).

The demise of the Development League means clubs with alignments will have their representation in the VFL seniors reduced to supplementing numbers for a senior team.

Werribee coach John Lamont said they would take on the form of “a management group for top-up players’’.

Asked if Sandringham would consider ending its alignment with St Kilda and going it alone, Corcoran said: “I wouldn’t like to comment on that. We haven’t had a board meeting but we’ll certainly gather as a board and discuss the ramifications.

“We’ll speak with St Kilda as well, which we have been doing all along. We’ll keep the dialogue going … hopefully we can come up with a solution, and it may well involve us establishing a VFL Women’s team sooner rather than later, because we still have to be a club and maintain our identity. We can cry a river but we’ve got to be creative and explore all options.’’

Speaking earlier this month, Northern Blues coach Josh Fraser said it would be illogical to scrap the Development League.

“I haven’t heard a logical argument as to why it shouldn’t be in place,” Fraser said.

“I don’t understand why it is being considered as something that is going to be taken away.

“It’s a really important step between local football and VFL football.

“I just haven’t heard a compelling argument as to why they are going to get rid of it.”
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Aerie » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:27 pm

Not much point in having a development league for a development league.
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:43 pm

Aerie wrote:Not much point in having a development league for a development league.


Why not we have a reserves team of a reserves team in our league ;)
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:51 pm

Once you take out the AFL players how many spots are left for genuine VFL players?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby tipper » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:58 am

so, if it appears all the clubs are against removing the reserves (well, the article didnt quote any club representative in favour of it at least, which i realise is a different thing) why is the league apparently going against its clubs in going ahead with it?
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby oldfella » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:41 am

I have been saying for several years that if the afl has its way the sanfl and what was the wafl will end up being an u/21 feeder type competions with no reserves rather backup players being from u/18 academies. Sadly, when talking to various senior sanfl club officials at several clubs they all seem to agree with this potential-- scarey

The vfl move to me is the first step in this direction and given that the afl now effectively owns the wafl they will be next.

Nothing shown to date by the sanfl commision employees or commision gives me great hope
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

Postby zipzap » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:42 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:First bit of research Gucci has done for quite a while, looked back through his own archives and rehashed one of his own articles. Well done Muppetangelo Gucci you can now add "investigative journalist" to your crayoned resume.


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