bennymacca wrote:HH3 wrote:Zartan wrote:bennymacca wrote:cant be denied that women are sometimes overlooked for promotions because of conscious or unconscious biases, or treated differently in other ways. Saying there is no such thing is ill informed.
Can you provide any examples? These days diversity is key, especially in senior roles.. women quite often are sought out for promotions or executive roles etc.
Careful, he might find one on Wikipedia.
im glad all it takes is your opinion to refute all of the research that is done into this areaHH3 wrote:This is from the Australian Governments Workplace Gender Equality Agency website.It is important to remember that the national gender pay gap is a high-level figure that shows general differences in earnings between women and men across the board. It is not a like-for-like analysis of women and men doing the same job and therefore, it doesn’t mean that women are earning 18.8% less than men in the same role,” Dr Harris said.
Pretty much means the figures are not representative of anything.
Just think of the families where the male works and earns enough for the female to stay home with the kids by choice. Their gender pay gap is 100%.
this is clearly a factor but cannot explain away the full difference.HH3 wrote:The law is equal.
If a woman thinks she is being discriminated against, she should take legal action. The same as a male should. Equal.
lets say there were two people going for a promotion who were both equally qualified. One person gets the job.
How does the other person know they were discriminated against?
In a lot of industries I think the problem is all but gone. At least thats my perception in my field. But to just explain away the differences in a single sentence is ridiculous
1) My opinion is formed after reading things that aren't on Wikipedia. There's a reason every education institution tells you not to use that site as a research tool.
2) It's a factor that skews the percentage so much that it makes it redundant. There's no way to measure prejudices, and deciding someones employment status or pay rate based entirely on gender is illegal. Equality is in effect, legally speaking.
3) If you don't know if you've been discriminated against, how can you cry discrimination? Just a hunch? Maybe the other person spoke better. Or maybe we should award the job to a woman over a man who suits the role better, just so people (female and male) don't bitch and moan.