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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 1:17 pm

Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.

Leppitsch is, in some ways, just under manned, both what he has at his disposal with a full list and what he actually has now with injuries. They won't sack him....yet.

Buckley and Hardwick getting contract extensions this year is just puzzling.

I don't see any coach getting sacked this year.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby The Bedge » Mon May 23, 2016 1:20 pm

Booney wrote:Buckley and Hardwick getting contract extensions this year is just puzzling.

Is Hardwick really that bad? He gets results just not consistently.. his list isn't awesome by any means either.. I think maybe he's not too bad - but Richmond need more consistency.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Corona Man » Mon May 23, 2016 1:25 pm

Booney wrote:Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.


That's not stopped a few clubs in the past tho.

I think Hinkley is safe enough for now.....

Eade on the other hand, even if he had everyone at his disposal, it looks like the game "tactically" has past him buy. As a casual observer, the Suns look to be totally directionless, and even uninterested.

Full list or not, that's the coach (and his assistant's) role to arrest.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:26 pm

Zartan wrote:
Booney wrote:Buckley and Hardwick getting contract extensions this year is just puzzling.

Is Hardwick really that bad? He gets results just not consistently.. his list isn't awesome by any means either.. I think maybe he's not too bad - but Richmond need more consistency.

Richmond's window has been open for some time and now it's closing, his list is far better than what they've produced over the past few years. There is something wrong there, they are giant killers and then can be very meek the following week.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:28 pm

Corona Man wrote:
Booney wrote:Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.


That's not stopped a few clubs in the past tho.

I think Hinkley is safe enough for now.....

Eade on the other hand, even if he had everyone at his disposal, it looks like the game "tactically" has past him buy. As a casual observer, the Suns look to be totally directionless, and even uninterested.

Full list or not, that's the coach (and his assistant's) role to arrest.


Hinkley is a one trick Pony, Port's recruiting has been woeful and they need to get rid of him and Voss, Port have become like an Italian army tank's gearbox, 1 gear forward and 9 reverse.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:30 pm

Eade has the poisonous challis, I don't thing the Gold Coast needed his style at the time he took over the mantle but it's a tough assignment with his injury list, it has plagued him pretty much during his whole tenure.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Corona Man » Mon May 23, 2016 1:34 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Eade has the poisonous challis, I don't thing the Gold Coast needed his style at the time he took over the mantle but it's a tough assignment with his injury list, it has plagued him pretty much during his whole tenure.
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That's an extensive list - granted. I tend to agree with you first comment..... Eade was an odd appointment, that didn't look like a fit with that playing group.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:35 pm

Jim05 wrote:Leppa has to be the first to go this year. Brisbane going backwards rapidly


Another one that's a victim of injury, cleaning up a mess that was left before him and a bad stigma of players wanting to stay there. A 25% win ratio isn't exactly gleaming though, he wont see the season out, round 20 will be his last game.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 1:39 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
Booney wrote:Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.


That's not stopped a few clubs in the past tho.

I think Hinkley is safe enough for now.....

Eade on the other hand, even if he had everyone at his disposal, it looks like the game "tactically" has past him buy. As a casual observer, the Suns look to be totally directionless, and even uninterested.

Full list or not, that's the coach (and his assistant's) role to arrest.


Hinkley is a one trick Pony, Port's recruiting has been woeful and they need to get rid of him and Voss, Port have become like an Italian army tank's gearbox, 1 gear forward and 9 reverse.


Please, elaborate on that.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:40 pm

Corona Man wrote:
That's an extensive list - granted. I tend to agree with you first comment..... Eade was an odd appointment, that didn't look like a fit with that playing group.

O'Meara was going to be the best thing we've seen for some time but has hardly set foot on the ground, Stanley, Swallow, Rischa, McKenzie, Ablett, Malceski, Sexton and generally having their first and second choice ruckmen unavailable for most of the past 12 months haven't made life easy for Rocket but yeah, I'll stand by my initial statement, I thought they were becoming stagnant with Bluey but there was a hardly a need to go balls deep with Eade.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 1:42 pm

Zartan wrote:
Booney wrote:Buckley and Hardwick getting contract extensions this year is just puzzling.

Is Hardwick really that bad? He gets results just not consistently.. his list isn't awesome by any means either.. I think maybe he's not too bad - but Richmond need more consistency.


Might not be that bad, but can he take this group any further? No, he can't. So it's start over, don't let the last two weeks fool you, they're in for some pain. Will it be list clogging hacks or kids? They have to go through the draft and get kids in, they won't load up on mid-20 list cloggers again, surely!

So, it's a new group to come in and that takes at best, 3-4 years, yes? Is he their coach in 5-6 years when they have rebuilt? No.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 1:44 pm

Corona Man wrote:
Booney wrote:Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.


That's not stopped a few clubs in the past tho.

I think Hinkley is safe enough for now.....

Eade on the other hand, even if he had everyone at his disposal, it looks like the game "tactically" has past him buy. As a casual observer, the Suns look to be totally directionless, and even uninterested.

Full list or not, that's the coach (and his assistant's) role to arrest.


The Gold Coast though they had the playing group to be there or thereabouts and a hard nosed coach who knew about September action would be the icing on the cake. Not so, injury and his man-on-man game plan coupled with his hard arse front are not working with the young list.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby carey » Mon May 23, 2016 1:45 pm

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Corona Man wrote:
Booney wrote:Eade and Hinkley are missing too many key personnel to be judged to the point of being sacked.


That's not stopped a few clubs in the past tho.

I think Hinkley is safe enough for now.....

Eade on the other hand, even if he had everyone at his disposal, it looks like the game "tactically" has past him buy. As a casual observer, the Suns look to be totally directionless, and even uninterested.

Full list or not, that's the coach (and his assistant's) role to arrest.


Hinkley is a one trick Pony, Port's recruiting has been woeful and they need to get rid of him and Voss, Port have become like an Italian army tank's gearbox, 1 gear forward and 9 reverse.


Please, elaborate on that.


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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Corona Man » Mon May 23, 2016 1:46 pm

Someone once told me the best thing about a 5 year plan.... was you don't have to do anything for 3 years.... sound familiar - like the tigers of old...
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 1:47 pm

With White and Monfries available Toumpas wouldn't be in the side, if he was back up and played 6 games a year when we needed him it would be some depth we needed. If he's in the "best" 22, we're screwed.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon May 23, 2016 1:50 pm

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Hinkley is a one trick Pony, Port's recruiting has been woeful and they need to get rid of him and Voss, Port have become like an Italian army tank's gearbox, 1 gear forward and 9 reverse.


Please, elaborate on that.

Trying so hard to get Ryder when we already had Monfries with the Essendon saga still alive, poor choice.

It's of my opinion that if you listed every clubs players in order from their best player to their worst, Port's 16th to 30th best players would be the weakest of anyone's.
Their top 10 to 15 are as good as anyone's though, it just falls away very quickly, the bottom end of the list is exactly that but ours isn't much worse than our middle tier.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Booney » Mon May 23, 2016 2:00 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Hinkley is a one trick Pony, Port's recruiting has been woeful and they need to get rid of him and Voss, Port have become like an Italian army tank's gearbox, 1 gear forward and 9 reverse.


Please, elaborate on that.

Trying so hard to get Ryder when we already had Monfries with the Essendon saga still alive, poor choice.

It's of my opinion that if you listed every clubs players in order from their best player to their worst, Port's 16th to 30th best players would be the weakest of anyone's.
Their top 10 to 15 are as good as anyone's though, it just falls away very quickly, the bottom end of the list is exactly that but ours isn't much worse than our middle tier.


I'm pretty sure they thought we'd get some compensation for getting Monfries on board prior to the scandal breaking, not so.

So if you're highlighting our middle tier ( Amon, Ah Chee, Neade, Impey, Colquhoun etc ) then is that the recruiting or the development? I'm pretty sure we all see glimpses of quality from all of the ones I've mentioned above yet not anything consistent.

More about the coaching and where they're played than recruiting IMO.
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby bennymacca » Mon May 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Booney wrote:
Please, elaborate on that.


Bonner Johnson impey Harvey wines clurey shaw are the top 50 picks over the past 4 years.

Pretty average other than wines
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby Corona Man » Mon May 23, 2016 2:07 pm

bennymacca wrote:
Booney wrote:
Please, elaborate on that.


Bonner Johnson impey Harvey wines clurey shaw are the top 50 picks over the past 4 years.

Pretty average other than wines


Tough on Bonner. Kid drafted Oct 2015, straight out of U/18's yet to play a game.... lets not judge him just yet.

I am sure Boon will elaborate on the rest....
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Re: 2016 Coaches - Who is the first to get sacked?

Postby bennymacca » Mon May 23, 2016 2:08 pm

Yeah fair about bonner.
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