Round 4 discussion

[bennymacca]

Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.

Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood

I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO

I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.

Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game

[Corona Man]

Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.

Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood

I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO

I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.

Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game

He is trying to change his game plan without question. Freo actually kicked 100 pts today but still lost. Which is at least more entertaining than watching them kick 70pts and try to suffocate the opposition. The change will take time to gel... Will the Freo hierarchy stick by him though is the question.

[bennymacca]

Managed 8 in my tips this week, but there won't be too many getting 9 this week

[Corona Man]

Managed 8 in my tips this week, but there won't be too many getting 9 this week

Snap... I don't think many would have tipped Brisbane

[Jim05]

Bounce was the first gf...toe poke was that the replay. If so it's one premiership... Either way the score is still zero.

Toe poke was v Geelong in '09, bounce was '10 v Collingwood

I don't specifically recall the toe poke. Just had a quick look though... St.Kilda scored 68 pts for the day... That's the problem with Lyon coached teams IMO

I think the biggest problem with Ross Lyon coached teams is he doesn't blood youth. So they drop off the cliff.

Given he has a 5 year contract now is the time we will see whether he can blood kids and change his game style to keep up with the modern game

Yeah like he will blood kids.
Why do you think he is throwing money at every KPP player going around. He will try to trade/buy his way out of it

[bennymacca]

They will need more than say McCarthy and hooker

[Grahaml]

I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.

Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.

[Jim05]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

[Corona Man]

I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.

Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.

Ok so maybe I have marked Ross Lyon a little hard. There can only be one premiership coach per year, it's just not been his year....yet. For me the difference between Blight & Lyon is this. Blight would attack to kick a higher score than the opposition, Lyon defends to restrict the opposition to a lower score than his blokes can kick. Blight eventually got the attack/defense balance correct at the crows. Lyon (it appears) this season is trying to get that balance right. Either way, without the cattle, you can't win the big prize. So does the coach make the players, or do the players make the coach?

Question:- If you could replace your current coach with Ross Lyon today, without any fall-out, do you do it?

[daysofourlives]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?

[carey]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?

The trade for Treloar I assume he his talking about

[Jim05]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?

They gave up next years first rounder for Treloar so if the Pies finish near the bottom happy days for GWS

[stan]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

Youve lost me, havnt seen anything talking about this. Are you referring to Daicos?

They gave up next years first rounder for Treloar so if the Pies finish near the bottom happy days for GWS

Its interesting Jim isnt it. The GWS when they come up against Collingwood will no doubt try and smash then harder lol.

[Q.]

Collingwood doing their best to get a top 5 pick, GWS rubbing their hands together.
Always thought future trading would come back to bite someone on the arse

The proverbial salt in the wound

[BoundaryRider84]

Managed 8 in my tips this week, but there won't be too many getting 9 this week

Snap... I don't think many would have tipped Brisbane

Ditto bloody gold coast

[Grahaml]

The more I see it and the more I think about it, the stronger the penalty I think May needs. I think 8 weeks as a minimum, but I'd be giving him 10. Those hits are so far in the past, in an era when blokes jogged and weighed 75 kilos. The danger seems to be constantly underestimated amongst football pundits and it needs to end.

[bennymacca]

Graded as severe impact but only careless and not intentional conduct. Went straight to the tribunal though so they can disagree with the match review panel

Thought the three port lads were very lucky not to get a week. Thought they were cowardly cheap shots and worse than lycett because at least they were at each other

[gadj1976]

The more I see it and the more I think about it, the stronger the penalty I think May needs. I think 8 weeks as a minimum, but I'd be giving him 10. Those hits are so far in the past, in an era when blokes jogged and weighed 75 kilos. The danger seems to be constantly underestimated amongst football pundits and it needs to end.

Try telling Jezza and Keith Greig that! See the opening moments of this;



Seriously though, I agree. if he'd kept his feet and hit him on the sternum he'd get a week or maybe 2. Because he jumped off the ground, 6-8.

[Spargo]

Thought the three port lads were very lucky not to get a week. Thought they were cowardly cheap shots and worse than lycett because at least they were at each other

Couldn't agree more. All three were snipes when their opponents weren't looking.

[westozfalcon]

I think if a guy is good enough to keep getting teams into grand finals then he must be pretty darn good. On that day, it's always two darn good sides going at it and the result largely is just up to the players. Malcolm Blight had a reputation for not being good enough to win grand finals at one point. If his sides regularly coughed up finals where they finished higher I'd say there might be something in it.

Ultimately, Fremantle have Nat Fyfe. He's probably not yet reached his peak. Give a coach a midfielder like that to build around and there's always hope.

Ok so maybe I have marked Ross Lyon a little hard. There can only be one premiership coach per year, it's just not been his year....yet. For me the difference between Blight & Lyon is this. Blight would attack to kick a higher score than the opposition, Lyon defends to restrict the opposition to a lower score than his blokes can kick. Blight eventually got the attack/defense balance correct at the crows. Lyon (it appears) this season is trying to get that balance right. Either way, without the cattle, you can't win the big prize. So does the coach make the players, or do the players make the coach?

Question:- If you could replace your current coach with Ross Lyon today, without any fall-out, do you do it?

Most definitely!