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Re: South Africa v England

Postby stampy » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:49 pm

unbelievable test match batting, the saffers are terrible
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby stampy » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:50 pm

stokes 202 off 163, 26x4 and 7x6 equates to 146 in boundaries
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:51 pm

stampy wrote:unbelievable test match batting, the saffers are terrible

Great stuff, long may it continue
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:32 pm

Morkel brings up his ton, the 4th Saffer to reach it this innings
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby batmanbegins » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:43 pm

Geez stokes is a talent! Really excited by this New England side for the future, I know SA are really struggling and Steyn out is huge but there is a lot of good young players in this England side. I think the Aussies, England and India will be the top 3 in test cricket for a while other than the Pakis playing in the UAE where they are very good.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby norwood8 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:03 pm

stampy wrote:unbelievable test match batting, the saffers are terrible


A gutless team of frontrunners that have hidden behind AB and Steyn for some time, definitely on a downwards slide.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:16 pm

Stokes and Bairstow are gonna break the record partnership in SA
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:19 pm

64 boundaries
10 sixes
5/557
121 overs
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby wristwatcher » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:23 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:64 boundaries
10 sixes
5/557
121 overs



How's the partnership 335 :shock:

I assume Stokes broke the record for the fastest ever double ton as well seems as he has 232 off 186.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby batmanbegins » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:25 pm

norwood8 wrote:
stampy wrote:unbelievable test match batting, the saffers are terrible


A gutless team of frontrunners that have hidden behind AB and Steyn for some time, definitely on a downwards slide.


Disagree with that, they were an outstanding team for a lot of years. To beat the Aussies twice in Australia, beat India in India, smoke the poms 3 times in England and to not to lose any were overseas for 9 years shows this team was very good. Smith, kallis, Amla, AB, Steyn and Morkel have all been great over the years and now a few of have gone they are struggling. There biggest issue is the racial policy as it doesn't allow them to select their best 11 and there has been a lot of discontent with a few players about it.

Other than Rabada and De Kock they have no real promising players coming through which is dangerous and it does feel a bit like the windies when they began sliding.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:38 pm

Saffers have had some of the most talented teams we have seen in the last 20 years. Not once have they been the undisputed kings of world cricket. Every time they look like completely taking over they **** up royally. It's a culture issue and if you're going to be arrogant you need to back it up. The Saffers have never done this.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:42 pm

batmanbegins wrote:
norwood8 wrote:
stampy wrote:unbelievable test match batting, the saffers are terrible


A gutless team of frontrunners that have hidden behind AB and Steyn for some time, definitely on a downwards slide.


Disagree with that, they were an outstanding team for a lot of years. To beat the Aussies twice in Australia, beat India in India, smoke the poms 3 times in England and to not to lose any were overseas for 9 years shows this team was very good. Smith, kallis, Amla, AB, Steyn and Morkel have all been great over the years and now a few of have gone they are struggling. There biggest issue is the racial policy as it doesn't allow them to select their best 11 and there has been a lot of discontent with a few players about it.

Other than Rabada and De Kock they have no real promising players coming through which is dangerous and it does feel a bit like the windies when they began sliding.

Only beat us once over here and the weak pricks havnt beat us over there. Agree that they have been hiding behind a couple of guns for years. The Aussies were so dominant against them because they are mentally soft and even at their peak 3 or 4 guys carried them and the rest would struggle to play Shield cricket. They havnt produced a half decent spinner and churn out a lot of all rounder types that are really pretty ordinary. As soon as Kallis finished up you knew they would struggle and once AB and Steyn finish up they will plummet down the rankings, what they have coming through is ordinary at best. Don't think anyone would shed a tear if they went the way of the Windies
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:42 pm

That dropped catch from Morkel pretty much describes South African cricket. When put under pressure they eventually find a way to **** it up....
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby wristwatcher » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:48 pm

Here's a stat for you.

Stokes and Bairstow now hold the world record in all forms of cricket for any wicket by a pair of Rangas :lol:

This would be bitter sweet for Sean Pollock.

Gone for 259 after another Saffer calamity.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:49 pm

Stokes brings up his 250 with a six. And next ball another six which is huge. Then Stokes goes again, the ball goes straight up in the air De Villiers drops the catch but still manages to run Stokes out. Comical!

Stokes 259 off 198, he smoked them!!
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:52 pm

England declare at 6/629
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:19 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:England declare at 6/629

And a run out for the first Saffer wicket, 1/7
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby wristwatcher » Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:22 pm

Jim05 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:England declare at 6/629

And a run out for the first Saffer wicket, 1/7



It's good TV :D
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:08 am

Jim05 wrote: As soon as Kallis finished up you knew they would struggle and once AB and Steyn finish up they will plummet down the rankings, what they have coming through is ordinary at best. Don't think anyone would shed a tear if they went the way of the Windies



Given the state of Test cricket, particularly due to the Windies, this is a pretty short-sighted statement.
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Re: South Africa v England

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:04 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
Jim05 wrote: As soon as Kallis finished up you knew they would struggle and once AB and Steyn finish up they will plummet down the rankings, what they have coming through is ordinary at best. Don't think anyone would shed a tear if they went the way of the Windies



Given the state of Test cricket, particularly due to the Windies, this is a pretty short-sighted statement.


Agree DW. I don't want to see South Africa be No 1 with the way they play Test cricket, but they are an integral part of the strength of the overall game, probably replacing the Windies in that regard over the last 20 years. Some great cricketers who have been enjoyable to watch since their readmission, but what I don't get is they've seen us beat them so many times in competitive games, often coming down to attitude and seizing key moments but they don't seem to learn.
With Zimbabwe and Windies the way they are, and NZ and Sri Lanka mostly reaching mid-range at best (always lacking one bowler and one batsman) we need a strong South Africa, but agree with Jim that they might struggle the next few years. But their problems lie far deeper than just attitude to cricket, where their country goes in the next 10-20 years.
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