Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:21 pm

am Bays wrote:As discussed on here two days ago they can afford it now but they are not going to do it

from this new TV deal the money will go to:

AFL players - as percent sharing as part of their EBA
The clubs - which will be used to hire more staff for their elite players, retire debt, expand footy programs.
Expand the game in the Northern markets - SA, WA and VIC are already hooked so no need to spend the same amount of money there.
Retire AFL debt
A national womens competition
Infrastructure grants
Increasing the payroll at AFL house

The AFl has no need for a reserves competition when it's 2nds teams are playing in good state league competitions which is far cheaper than running an AFL Reserves competition.

It will not happen in the foreseeable future i.e. the life of this TV ddeal.

it will br brought up though, to keep the soverign SANFL, AFL Victoria, WAFL clubs in line as a stick to keep the state league competitions favourable to the AFL clubs.

Get excited about the rumours of a national reserves competition if you wish though


That's not true. The NEAFL is rubbish. One of the major criticisms is the wide gap between playing AFL and NEAFL in Qld. Having a standardised comp would benefit all IMO.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby UK Fan » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:21 pm

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Wont happen.

Especially when clueless/spinless SA football administrators killing its own is so cheap and readily available.


I think you mean spineless, mate.
There's been plenty of spin.


Cant argue.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby Apachebulldog » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:51 pm

No they cannot afford to fund a AFL RESERVES competition the money now goes to establish a womens national competition!!

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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby VALE PARK » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:01 pm

I guess while leagues like the SANFL are prepared to put up with AFL reserve teams
for a pittance, and say how good it is to assist them,
why would the AFL even bother to consider changing anything.
Which SANFL teams will be the first to consider amalgamation as crowds continue to dwindle?
Ground rationalisation could also be an option sometime down the track.
exit say Unley, Glenelg and Prospect?
We love 'em all but,
just a thought!
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby UK Fan » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:46 pm

Hopefully we can all realise now that the "we can't afford afl reserves" was just another bs excuse.

It has nothing to do with cost
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby human_torpedo » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:52 pm

It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.. Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc

Take funding from grassroots to establish a reserves competition makes no sense.. In a perfect world we wouldn't have to put up with reserves sides in our local leagues, but why would the AFL waste money on a reserves comp when they currently have there own sides in established competitions already.. It achieves nothing other than pouring millions into a venture that makes them nothing back..

I'd like to see it, but it wont happen unless something drastic changes, and I don't think the AFL are willing to pour money into a wasted venture..
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby JK » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:24 pm

human_torpedo wrote: Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


Thats questionable, with the amount being pumped into Sydney in the hope that one day it will translate to a bigger audience and thus $$. Let's not even start on the money spent chasing the next Jim Stynes or Mike Pike rather than traditional footballer producing states.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby human_torpedo » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:24 am

JK wrote:
human_torpedo wrote: Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


Thats questionable, with the amount being pumped into Sydney in the hope that one day it will translate to a bigger audience and thus $$. Let's not even start on the money spent chasing the next Jim Stynes or Mike Pike rather than traditional footballer producing states.


Yeh the Sydney venture is an attempt at growth to produce $$, again, a reserves comp wouldn't be growth or produce $$, it would be down the drain.. Agree on the second part, but cant blame clubs for trying to find a diamond in the rough outside of the playing list.. That's a club issue, the AFL want to try and promote the game globally but im not sure it will gain traction tbh
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:43 am

human_torpedo wrote:It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.. Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


The AFL has said it's about being able to afford it.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby the big bang » Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:59 am

a bit of laziness on mt behalf, couldn't be bothered reading all the posts.....

but as much uproar from old school SANFL supporters are having about the crows and power(magpies) in the SANFL, I assume the old VFL blokes are exactly the same when it comes to whats happened to their league with most of the AFL clubs having their own standalone teams in the VFL?
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby am Bays » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:03 am

Dogwatcher wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.. Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


The AFL has said it's about being able to afford it.


As Jeanie Bueller would say, "Dry that out and you can fertilize the lawn....."
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby Wedgie » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:25 am

the big bang wrote:a bit of laziness on mt behalf, couldn't be bothered reading all the posts.....

but as much uproar from old school SANFL supporters are having about the crows and power(magpies) in the SANFL, I assume the old VFL blokes are exactly the same when it comes to whats happened to their league with most of the AFL clubs having their own standalone teams in the VFL?

Different kettle of fish.
The old VFA was disbanded and teams were invited by the AFL to join their comp.
Quite the opposite if anything, it'd be like if the 8 SANFL clubs joined a comp run by the AFL.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby human_torpedo » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:00 pm

am Bays wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.. Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


The AFL has said it's about being able to afford it.


As Jeanie Bueller would say, "Dry that out and you can fertilize the lawn....."


Im sure the AFL could afford it. It wouldn't send them broke and have the creditors knocking on the door.. Just wouldn't be willing to spend money for no potential return
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby RB » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:28 pm

the big bang wrote:a bit of laziness on mt behalf, couldn't be bothered reading all the posts.....

but as much uproar from old school SANFL supporters are having about the crows and power(magpies) in the SANFL, I assume the old VFL blokes are exactly the same when it comes to whats happened to their league with most of the AFL clubs having their own standalone teams in the VFL?

I obviously can't speak for the Victorians, but I think they may be a bit more blasé about it given the circumstances Wedgie mentioned.

Either way, I would be ropable if I had been a supporter of one of the VFL clubs still in it. Reserves leagues suck.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:19 pm

The old VFA clubs, unaffiliated ones, anyway, are getting grumpier about the circumstances.
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby StrayDog » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:15 pm

Dogwatcher wrote:
human_torpedo wrote:It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.. Its about using the money more wisely ie. Grassroots football etc


The AFL has said it's about being able to afford it.

Interesting, given we're talking about entities with multi-million dollar playing rosters, and an organisation with a 10 digit television arrangement. For what it's worth, there seem to be no issues flying suburban Sydney, Queensland suburban clubs, and the Thunder, in and out of Darwin in the NEAFL.

Melbourne to Perth is favourable, or comparable, in distance in compared to Darwin to Sydney or Brisbane.

Surely a Western and Eastern conference style setup, splitting the Melbourne reserves sides into one or the other, isn't that inconceivable? Some games planned as traditional "double headers" with AFL league games to reduce some doubling up of support staff. More sides and a more complicated arrangement I realise.

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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby MatteeG » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:23 pm

Using this round as an example, and the ressies to be curtain raisers- the following sides would have to travel:

Port (to Melbourne)
Essendon (to Gold Coast)
Crows (to Brissy)
Freo (to Melb)
Dogs (to West coast)

Hardly an absolute bank breaker I would have thought. Would keeps squads together on the road etc etc.

The clincher is the lack of return on the ressies. But surely if the ressies play before the league there would be a few who'd venture in early, possibly buying beverages etc? Maybe the home teams could encourage early birds with prizes/activities for the kids ...
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Re: Surely the AFL can now afford a Reserves Comp

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Aug 21, 2015 7:21 pm

the big bang wrote:a bit of laziness on mt behalf, couldn't be bothered reading all the posts.....

but as much uproar from old school SANFL supporters are having about the crows and power(magpies) in the SANFL, I assume the old VFL blokes are exactly the same when it comes to whats happened to their league with most of the AFL clubs having their own standalone teams in the VFL?


umm the old VFL clubs are in the AFL are they not?
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