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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:10 pm

Of course Essendon and Hird will appeal ... they have never accepted that they did anything wrong.
It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:32 pm

dedja wrote:Of course Essendon and Hird will appeal ... they have never accepted that they did anything wrong.

Doubtful, have no chance of winning and it wont achieve anything. Wont waste anymore money, need it to pay Hird out. Big push at board level now for Bomber to take over.
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby JK » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:45 pm

Jim05 wrote:
dedja wrote:Of course Essendon and Hird will appeal ... they have never accepted that they did anything wrong.

Doubtful, have no chance of winning and it wont achieve anything. Wont waste anymore money, need it to pay Hird out. Big push at board level now for Bomber to take over.


Would imagine that's what they've been keeping him around for anyway
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby RustyCage » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:55 pm

Ryder officially gone
I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:07 pm

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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Booney » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:59 am

In the James Hird Court of Appeal is James Hird still innocent?

I'd imagine so.
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:48 am

Booney wrote:In the James Hird Court of Appeal is James Hird still innocent?

I'd imagine so.

No, losing support of the board and members. Apparantly there will be a rival ticket at the AGM, dont think it will get up but members just want this over one way or another.
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Hondo » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:29 am

I wonder if in hindsight this will be end up another example of why clubs shouldn't rush favourite sons into coaching positions before they are ready, or even at all.

If the coach involved was most people other than Essendon's golden child I reckon this saga would be over by now. Essendon would have moved on and blamed the former coach. Hird has created a massive conflict of interest for the club. They are working too hard to save Hird. Honestly he's not that important in the scheme of things and Hird himself should have let his club off the hook by now.
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:28 am

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:In the James Hird Court of Appeal is James Hird still innocent?

I'd imagine so.

No, losing support of the board and members. Apparantly there will be a rival ticket at the AGM, dont think it will get up but members just want this over one way or another.


The Board should save everyone the trouble and just resign.
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Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:31 am

dedja wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:In the James Hird Court of Appeal is James Hird still innocent?

I'd imagine so.

No, losing support of the board and members. Apparantly there will be a rival ticket at the AGM, dont think it will get up but members just want this over one way or another.


The Board should save everyone the trouble and just resign.

We will get to have our say at the AGM.
Couple of nominees I dont want near the club and a few of the current board that need to go.
Have to remember the majority of the current board were not there in 2012 and most of those involved have been moved on
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:37 am

Little has cross hairs all over him ...
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:48 am

dedja wrote:Little has cross hairs all over him ...

Reckon he will survive. Has tipped in millions and unless another wealthy backer appears id imagine he stays.
Also depends on the other candidates aswell, if some of the rumoured tickets nominate it will make for an interesting night.
Havnt been for a few years now but reckon I might have to go and have a look this year
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:54 am

Joe Gutnick also poured millions into Melbourne, didn't help him either ...
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:57 am

dedja wrote:Joe Gutnick also poured millions into Melbourne, didn't help him either ...

Yeah true.
As I said, depends on the quality of rivals.
Might be the best of a bad lot
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:00 pm

All he has to do is sack Hird and all will be forgiven ...
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:11 pm

dedja wrote:All he has to do is sack Hird and all will be forgiven ...

I dont think that decision will be made until we find out what happens to the players. Any player gets suspended for even 1 day and they will pull the trigger.
Anyway thats all out of the clubs hands at the moment, the AFLPA has now stepped in and have said no players will accept a deal and they will fight to clear their names.
Guess all we can do is sit and wait.
Hopefully the board and Hird dont appeal the court hearing and that will let the players look at ADADA's evidence
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:12 pm

Of course Hird will appeal ... dunno about the club though.
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:17 pm

dedja wrote:Of course Hird will appeal ... dunno about the club though.

Will be a club decision to appeal, the majority of the board dont want to appeal as it could mean this drags on for up to 2 years.
We would be much better off putting time and resources into fighting the SC notices.
If we go about that correctly we could see a resolution within the next 3-6 months
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby kickinit » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:43 pm

Jim05 wrote:
dedja wrote:All he has to do is sack Hird and all will be forgiven ...

I dont think that decision will be made until we find out what happens to the players. Any player gets suspended for even 1 day and they will pull the trigger.
Anyway thats all out of the clubs hands at the moment, the AFLPA has now stepped in and have said no players will accept a deal and they will fight to clear their names.
Guess all we can do is sit and wait.
Hopefully the board and Hird dont appeal the court hearing and that will let the players look at ADADA's evidence


AFLPA said the players won't take a deal until they see the evidence ASADA has. ASADA have also said in the new sc notices they will get the evidence. If the players don't accept a deal they will be looking at 2years if they take a deal it will be 3-6months, I know what I'll be taking
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Re: Essendon 2014

Postby Jim05 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:57 pm

kickinit wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
dedja wrote:All he has to do is sack Hird and all will be forgiven ...

I dont think that decision will be made until we find out what happens to the players. Any player gets suspended for even 1 day and they will pull the trigger.
Anyway thats all out of the clubs hands at the moment, the AFLPA has now stepped in and have said no players will accept a deal and they will fight to clear their names.
Guess all we can do is sit and wait.
Hopefully the board and Hird dont appeal the court hearing and that will let the players look at ADADA's evidence


AFLPA said the players won't take a deal until they see the evidence ASADA has. ASADA have also said in the new sc notices they will get the evidence. If the players don't accept a deal they will be looking at 2years if they take a deal it will be 3-6months, I know what I'll be taking

The players may also think the evidence is circumstancial at best and choose to fight it.
Only the individual players can decide which way they go now and there are probably some that will take a deal. Its out of the clubs hands now and the players now get to choose their fate
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