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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:56 pm
by Brodlach
Apachebulldog wrote:Wheres my mate Daisy he has been quite today ?????

You’re logged in so he can’t ;)

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:00 pm
by am Bays
Brodlach wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Wheres my mate Daisy he has been quite today ?????

You’re logged in so he can’t ;)


I want to know what UK fan thinks of all this....

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:00 pm
by Brodlach
am Bays wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Wheres my mate Daisy he has been quite today ?????

You’re logged in so he can’t ;)


I want to know what UK fan thinks of all this....


He’s too busy counting people

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:01 pm
by amber_fluid
am Bays wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
Apachebulldog wrote:Wheres my mate Daisy he has been quite today ?????

You’re logged in so he can’t ;)


I want to know what UK fan thinks of all this....


He deals in crowd numbers not Covid numbers.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:02 pm
by Eagles2014
DOC wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:who was the dopey journo who mentioned nappies to Stevens??


Andrew Hough


He is an absolute tool apparently :shock: Definitely sounds like one!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:06 pm
by Eagles2014
The Bedge wrote:Reckon you could play press conference bingo every day..

Tick off when you hear:
Dealing with the Delta variant
Highly Transmissible
Proud of everyone in SA
Only one opportunity to tackle this


The "only one opportunity to tackle this" is the one that does my head in :evil:

We are certain to get another outbreak at some stage, and we start the process all over again :shock:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:08 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Apachebulldog wrote:Wheres my mate Daisy he has been quite today ?????

medi-hotel.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:21 pm
by whufc
If the government came out tomorrow and said we are going to continue to lockdown at every breakout until 70% of the country is vaccinated. What would your response be:

1/ Go get vaccinated ASAP
2/ March down King William Street in protest
3/ Call their bluff and 'see' how it pans out
4/ Do nothing and hope 70% of people get vaccinated without you being one.

I'm just struggling to see how we ever get back to a life without lockdowns becoming the 'new norm'

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:28 pm
by Psyber
The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png
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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:37 pm
by Eagles2014
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


Classic, love it :D

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:48 pm
by mots02
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


I'm assuming that this answers the question of 'where's Daisy'... volunteering his time to stick it to the sheeple and doing something positive to solve the problem.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:50 pm
by Apachebulldog
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


Mate you got the wrong sign it should read Delta 21.

So for Delta 21 i will volunteer there ya all happy :D

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:00 pm
by Groover
Line at pt adelaide is down to about 1.5hr wait


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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:14 pm
by Trader
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


While that's just a meme meant as a bit of light entertainment, I'll bite.

While there are some that don't believe Covid 19 exists, there are many who know it exists, but believe the current method for dealing with it is not rational.

Look at our current outbreak, 15 cases, all whom attended/work at The Greek or the Winery.
SA Health have identified 210 people from these sites.

So who should be isolating?

The 15 infected - obviously.
The 210 close contacts - Yes.
The 3800 contacts of close contacts - ok.
The 1.5million South Australians? - I don't think so.

So because I question if it is proportional for the 4th ring of the ven diagram to be thrust into lockdown does that mean I don't believe in Covid?

Covid exists, and the delta variant kills 0.2% of people that catch it. 98% of those that die have other factors that contribute to their death.

For young healthy individuals, you're a 24,999 in 25,000 chance of surviving if you catch it.

With 3 rings of isolation ahead of me, then a 99.996% chance of surviving even if it makes it through to the 4th ring, I'm very comfortable to say putting me in a lockdown for 7 days is unreasonable.

Allow people to get vaccinated.
Have your contract tracing.
Isolate people who get it, their close contacts, or even contacts of close contacts.
Allow anyone else who wants to isolate themselves to live their lives in solitude.

Don't force the rest of us to shut down our lives 'out of an abundance of caution'.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:33 pm
by Apachebulldog
Trader wrote:
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


While that's just a meme meant as a bit of light entertainment, I'll bite.

While there are some that don't believe Covid 19 exists, there are many who know it exists, but believe the current method for dealing with it is not rational.

Look at our current outbreak, 15 cases, all whom attended/work at The Greek or the Winery.
SA Health have identified 210 people from these sites.

So who should be isolating?

The 15 infected - obviously.
The 210 close contacts - Yes.
The 3800 contacts of close contacts - ok.
The 1.5million South Australians? - I don't think so.

So because I question if it is proportional for the 4th ring of the ven diagram to be thrust into lockdown does that mean I don't believe in Covid?

Covid exists, and the delta variant kills 0.2% of people that catch it. 98% of those that die have other factors that contribute to their death.

For young healthy individuals, you're a 24,999 in 25,000 chance of surviving if you catch it.

With 3 rings of isolation ahead of me, then a 99.996% chance of surviving even if it makes it through to the 4th ring, I'm very comfortable to say putting me in a lockdown for 7 days is unreasonable.

Allow people to get vaccinated.
Have your contract tracing.
Isolate people who get it, their close contacts, or even contacts of close contacts.
Allow anyone else who wants to isolate themselves to live their lives in solitude.

Don't force the rest of us to shut down our lives 'out of an abundance of caution'.


Nice bite Trader ^:)^ you are spot on my friend.

You are one of a handful that really gets it.

These viruses that we have all been living with for 18 months plus but still after all this time these so called experts have not got a damn clue :rolleyes:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:39 pm
by am Bays
Trader wrote:
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


While that's just a meme meant as a bit of light entertainment, I'll bite.

While there are some that don't believe Covid 19 exists, there are many who know it exists, but believe the current method for dealing with it is not rational.

Look at our current outbreak, 15 cases, all whom attended/work at The Greek or the Winery.
SA Health have identified 210 people from these sites.

So who should be isolating?

The 15 infected - obviously.
The 210 close contacts - Yes.
The 3800 contacts of close contacts - ok.
The 1.5million South Australians? - I don't think so.

So because I question if it is proportional for the 4th ring of the ven diagram to be thrust into lockdown does that mean I don't believe in Covid?

Covid exists, and the delta variant kills 0.2% of people that catch it. 98% of those that die have other factors that contribute to their death.

For young healthy individuals, you're a 24,999 in 25,000 chance of surviving if you catch it.

With 3 rings of isolation ahead of me, then a 99.996% chance of surviving even if it makes it through to the 4th ring, I'm very comfortable to say putting me in a lockdown for 7 days is unreasonable.

Allow people to get vaccinated.
Have your contract tracing.
Isolate people who get it, their close contacts, or even contacts of close contacts.
Allow anyone else who wants to isolate themselves to live their lives in solitude.

Don't force the rest of us to shut down our lives 'out of an abundance of caution'.

That's basically what NSW tried. it's the emergence of the, 3rd and 4th generation of spreaders (close contacts of generation one and two) of who aren't in isolation or having limitation on on their movements because their infection was unknown at the time is what is allowing to spread.

The quick hard lockdown helps gets it contained initially then you can start lifting in a controlled manner which is what Stevens and Marshall implied they would like to be able to announce on Tuesday

Trader you know that there are going to be negative tests on day one who on day five are possibly going to come back positive this may create more sites of concern.

Restrictions (preferred)/lockdowns help control the spread initially. The known unknowns out in the community when it first emerges.

As you said 100 pages back probably, the testing is only accurate to the to 48-72 hours before the swab, hence why the testing of contacts needs to occur several times over 14 days.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:42 pm
by gazzamagoo
Trader wrote:
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


While that's just a meme meant as a bit of light entertainment, I'll bite.

While there are some that don't believe Covid 19 exists, there are many who know it exists, but believe the current method for dealing with it is not rational.

Look at our current outbreak, 15 cases, all whom attended/work at The Greek or the Winery.
SA Health have identified 210 people from these sites.

So who should be isolating?

The 15 infected - obviously.
The 210 close contacts - Yes.
The 3800 contacts of close contacts - ok.
The 1.5million South Australians? - I don't think so.

So because I question if it is proportional for the 4th ring of the ven diagram to be thrust into lockdown does that mean I don't believe in Covid?

Covid exists, and the delta variant kills 0.2% of people that catch it. 98% of those that die have other factors that contribute to their death.

For young healthy individuals, you're a 24,999 in 25,000 chance of surviving if you catch it.

With 3 rings of isolation ahead of me, then a 99.996% chance of surviving even if it makes it through to the 4th ring, I'm very comfortable to say putting me in a lockdown for 7 days is unreasonable.

Allow people to get vaccinated.
Have your contract tracing.
Isolate people who get it, their close contacts, or even contacts of close contacts.
Allow anyone else who wants to isolate themselves to live their lives in solitude.

Don't force the rest of us to shut down our lives 'out of an abundance of caution'.

Brilliant!
The only problem is we can't trust the ones that need to isolate, to isolate, therefore the lockdown happens.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:57 pm
by Trader
am Bays wrote:That's basically what NSW tried. it's the emergence of the, 3rd and 4th generation of spreaders (close contacts of generation one and two) of who aren't in isolation or having limitation on on their movements because their infection was unknown at the time is what is allowing to spread.

The quick hard lockdown helps gets it contained initially then you can start lifting in a controlled manner which is what Stevens and Marshall implied they would like to be able to announce on Tuesday

Trader you know that there are going to be negative tests on day one who on day five are possibly going to come back positive this may create more sites of concern.

Restrictions (preferred)/lockdowns help control the spread initially. The known unknowns out in the community when it first emerges.

As you said 100 pages back probably, the testing is only accurate to the to 48-72 hours before the swab, hence why the testing of contacts needs to occur several times over 14 days.


NSW lost control as they didn't chase down the close contacts. They blurred the line between contacts of close contacts and the general public. They haven't isolated rings 2 and 3.

We are different. As I said in my post, isolate rings 2 and 3, lock them up for 14 days and you'll get no complaints from me. But that's 4,000 people, not 1.5million.

Sure, if we lose control of the contact tracing and then can't be confident we have rings 2 and 3 under control, sure, look for some restrictions (like stage 2, 3 or 4) at that point in time.

We have the initial rings under control yet have still imposed stage 5 lockdowns on everyone.

Agreed, there will be more +ve cases come out who were -ve on day 1 and +ve on day 5 or even 13. But these are people from ring 2, at worst ring 3. None of them will come from ring 4, so why is ring 4 in stage 5 lockdown?

Ring 1, 2 and 3 can go into 14 day iso, ring 4 should have level 2 restrictions if they want added protection, not level 5.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:00 pm
by amber_fluid
Trader for Premier!
Or you can have Spurrier’s job.

Take ya pick.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:06 pm
by stan
Trader wrote:
Psyber wrote:The solution?

CV19 volunteers.png


While that's just a meme meant as a bit of light entertainment, I'll bite.

While there are some that don't believe Covid 19 exists, there are many who know it exists, but believe the current method for dealing with it is not rational.

Look at our current outbreak, 15 cases, all whom attended/work at The Greek or the Winery.
SA Health have identified 210 people from these sites.

So who should be isolating?

The 15 infected - obviously.
The 210 close contacts - Yes.
The 3800 contacts of close contacts - ok.
The 1.5million South Australians? - I don't think so.

So because I question if it is proportional for the 4th ring of the ven diagram to be thrust into lockdown does that mean I don't believe in Covid?

Covid exists, and the delta variant kills 0.2% of people that catch it. 98% of those that die have other factors that contribute to their death.

For young healthy individuals, you're a 24,999 in 25,000 chance of surviving if you catch it.

With 3 rings of isolation ahead of me, then a 99.996% chance of surviving even if it makes it through to the 4th ring, I'm very comfortable to say putting me in a lockdown for 7 days is unreasonable.

Allow people to get vaccinated.
Have your contract tracing.
Isolate people who get it, their close contacts, or even contacts of close contacts.
Allow anyone else who wants to isolate themselves to live their lives in solitude.

Don't force the rest of us to shut down our lives 'out of an abundance of caution'.
Spot on.