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Should mull be legalized for medicinal use?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:29 pm
by JK
As per a couple of articles on Adelaidenow (http://adelaidenow.com.au/news/my-eight ... 6849148721)

Re: Should mull be legalized for medicinal use?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:54 pm
by Psyber
Yes under strict criteria for use where other products are ineffective. There should also be more research into extracting components or synthesising variants that have medical use without impairing driving or other mental functions.

I'd also like to see research into low potency variants of the plant as I need some new hemp shirts to replace the ones I bought 12 years ago which are wearing out, and I am old enough to remember how much better hempen rope was to handle and use than the modern polypropylene ropes. ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:59 pm
by westcoastpanther
Yes, imagine TSG on here without it, oh the stress!!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:04 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Watch how fast I develop an ailment that needs a prescription. Ooowww......... my ovaries.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:06 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
And of course it should. And not just for medicinal reasons.

Free the green.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:23 am
by Booney
Mull.....nice on JK. Will it be provided to patients in sticks?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:04 am
by JK
Booney wrote:Mull.....nice on JK. Will it be provided to patients in sticks?


I don't know what you're talking about mate

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:24 am
by bennymacca
Seems like a no brainier, especially in its form where there are no psychoactive effects

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:44 am
by The Sleeping Giant
Why do doctors want laboratory manufactured synthetic cannabis? So they can get more kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry.

This father in the article obviously cares for his daughter. But why hasn't he just purchased some illegally? These other drugs his daughter is on sound awful. Dope won't hurt her.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:53 am
by Psyber
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Why do doctors want laboratory manufactured synthetic cannabis? So they can get more kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry.

This father in the article obviously cares for his daughter. But why hasn't he just purchased some illegally? These other drugs his daughter is on sound awful. Dope won't hurt her.

Synthetic versions offer the chance to achieve the medical benefits without the psycho-active complications and without making muddle headed users of the natural stuff a danger on the roads.

It has been an issue with herbal source derived treatments before...

For example, the early treatment of heart failure with the tincture (alcohol dissolved extract) of Digitalis was effective in treating heart failure but caused hallucinations and confusion, restricting theose who needed its from safely driving. The later separation of the tinctures components into what were named Digoxin and Digitoxin made this less risky by using Digoxin only. Later synthetic variants had even less side-effects.

Similarly, we could just munch the natural Penicillin mould off pieces of stale bread, but that has toxic effects too and could be fatal if you ate a similar looking but not the same mould. Extracting pure Penicillin worked better, and new synthetic variants provided effective antibiotics as bacteria became resistant to the basic form of Penicillin.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:54 am
by Q.
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Why do doctors want laboratory manufactured synthetic cannabis? So they can get more kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry.

This father in the article obviously cares for his daughter. But why hasn't he just purchased some illegally? These other drugs his daughter is on sound awful. Dope won't hurt her.


She's taking cannibidol extract. Where would you even get that illegally?

Re: Should mull be legalized for medicinal use?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:04 am
by The Sleeping Giant
It's in cannabis mate. Geesh.

Did you read the article? The part about the Victorian mum who's daughter suffers the same thing?

Love how you are all for Roids but anti cannabis.

Also not sure why you would want to manufacture cannabis synthetically when it is cheaper and much more beneficial natural.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:12 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
From the CNN website. Amazing.

For Psyber. You can't take one chemical out of marijuana, you need the whole plant for it to be effective. Does this change your mind?

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/health/2014/03/10/orig-brain-on-weed-sanjay-jr-jt.cnn.html

Re: Should mull be legalized for medicinal use?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:18 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Longer, but a lot more informative.

Sad that ignorance keeps people suffering.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:18 am
by shoe boy
Who are the no's?
Do they drink alcohol ?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:43 am
by Q.
The Sleeping Giant wrote:It's in cannabis mate. Geesh.

Did you read the article? The part about the Victorian mum who's daughter suffers the same thing?

Love how you are all for Roids but anti cannabis.

Also not sure why you would want to manufacture cannabis synthetically when it is cheaper and much more beneficial natural.


Lol, I'm definitely not anti cannabis :D

My point is that they only want and need the cannibidol. Not the rest.

Re: Should mull be legalized for medicinal use?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:08 am
by Psyber
The Sleeping Giant wrote:From the CNN website. Amazing.

For Psyber. You can't take one chemical out of marijuana, you need the whole plant for it to be effective. Does this change your mind?

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/health/2014/03/10/orig-brain-on-weed-sanjay-jr-jt.cnn.html

That was once the claim for Digitalis too - that it wouldn't work without all the components.
All herbal products have multiple components and it is usually possible to determine which ones have which effects and be selective.

The last thing we need is more stoned people driving cars.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:15 am
by Booney
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:17 pm
by The Sleeping Giant

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:11 am
by Psyber
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Another vote for cannabis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24614667

Well, on careful reading, another vote for research into compounds contained in Cannabis, not necessarily for open slather for commercial interests.

I enjoyed my once only small taste of "Coke" some years ago in Sarawak, and felt energised, but I wouldn't advocate an open go for its marketing.
(Unless of course I had the sole franchise... ;) )