Australian Car Industry

[Booney]

Maybe the government could invest money in a company that develops innovative cars that have world wide popularity and economical.

Labour are shouting out about foreign investment in Qantas being increased yet are happy to pump money into a foreign company to keep an unsustainable company in Australia that they know will run at a loss.

Commodores are very popular and not everyone looks at how economical the car they drive is, if we did we'd all be driving hybrids or diesels.

It's simply about profitability.

[BIG SEXY]

Maybe the government could invest money in a company that develops innovative cars that have world wide popularity and economical.
Labour are shouting out about foreign investment in Qantas being increased yet are happy to pump money into a foreign company to keep an unsustainable company in Australia that they know will run at a loss.

i will take their money, im currently developing a vehicle for my wife and i to drive.
550 HP 6 litre V8 (out of a commodore if that helps the current situation) extra cab colorado with 50 cm of wheel travel on each corner.

[Booney]

Maybe the government could invest money in a company that develops innovative cars that have world wide popularity and economical.
Labour are shouting out about foreign investment in Qantas being increased yet are happy to pump money into a foreign company to keep an unsustainable company in Australia that they know will run at a loss.

i will take their money, im currently developing a vehicle for my wife and i to drive.
550 HP 6 litre V8 (out of a commodore if that helps the current situation) extra cab colorado with 50 cm of wheel travel on each corner.

That will be popular and economical!

[scoob]

Maybe the government could invest money in a company that develops innovative cars that have world wide popularity and economical.

Labour are shouting out about foreign investment in Qantas being increased yet are happy to pump money into a foreign company to keep an unsustainable company in Australia that they know will run at a loss.

Commodores are very popular and not everyone looks at how economical the car they drive is, if we did we'd all be driving hybrids or diesels.

It's simply about profitability.

Can someone tell me where commodores are on the world wide scale of popularity???

[Jimmy_041]

Maybe the government could invest money in a company that develops innovative cars that have world wide popularity and economical.

Labour are shouting out about foreign investment in Qantas being increased yet are happy to pump money into a foreign company to keep an unsustainable company in Australia that they know will run at a loss.

Commodores are very popular and not everyone looks at how economical the car they drive is, if we did we'd all be driving hybrids or diesels.

It's simply about profitability.

Can someone tell me where commodores are on the world wide scale of popularity???

Better than a Falcon is all I know

[Squids]

I read somewhere that Commodore sales have dropped from 80k to 30k within 5 or so years. The commodore had been taken over by the Cruze in sales, I think that is built in Thailand.

[scoob]

I read somewhere that Commodore sales have dropped from 80k to 30k within 5 or so years. The commodore had been taken over by the Cruze in sales, I think that is built in Thailand.

How can that be when no ones really cares about economy of a car?

[Booney]

I read somewhere that Commodore sales have dropped from 80k to 30k within 5 or so years. The commodore had been taken over by the Cruze in sales, I think that is built in Thailand.

How can that be when no ones really cares about economy of a car?

No, I said not everyone looks at economy.

[Bully]

The cruze is made in Australia , not Thailand

[scoob]

I read somewhere that Commodore sales have dropped from 80k to 30k within 5 or so years. The commodore had been taken over by the Cruze in sales, I think that is built in Thailand.

How can that be when no ones really cares about economy of a car?

No, I said not everyone looks at economy.

I would think the economy of fuel usage would be high up there on the majority of new vechile purchasers. Hence the 50K drop in sales.

Again I go back to my original point that the government would be better suited in investing in a company that gives the consumer what is wants.

[Bully]

I read somewhere that Commodore sales have dropped from 80k to 30k within 5 or so years. The commodore had been taken over by the Cruze in sales, I think that is built in Thailand.

How can that be when no ones really cares about economy of a car?

you sure on this?

I know plenty of people who buy cars because of how much fuel is used

[Pseudo]

Sorry to throw the political element in but I don't get how Abbott is responsible for this though. The industry has been unsustainable for ages.
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Now if he'll just reduce funding on the arts and defence!

Got to pull you up on that one. With manufacturing about to die in the arse in SA, it becomes imperative to maintain (if not increase) funding for defence. The defence sector employs a proportionally massive amount of people in SA; if that were to go as well, Adelaide would become another Detroit. Furthermore one significant chunk of defence is manufacturing (subs, boats etc); this arm of defence has demand for the skills of workers about to be discarded by Holdens.

You're making a rather large assumption that the money given to Defence is spent effectively.

Throwing money at things doesn't fix them (see GMH for example).

And your assumption that defence is on par with the arts is how large, exactly?

[am Bays]

We ll there is one bright side to this whole Holden debarcle, no more Holden 78

[Bully]

We ll there is one bright side to this whole Holden debarcle, no more Holden 78

what is holden 78??

[norwood8]

Manufacturing in this country is going to continue on a downward spiral because of the ridiculous salaries these workers receive. The unions are to blame just as much as anyone, how can an industry that's struggling so much afford to continually increase wages and better working conditions. I'm all for people working hard and making a decent salary, but many of these workers who won't have the ability or skill-sets to work in different environments are getting paid too much. People who choose to gain a trade or undertake academic training/study should be rewarded for the hard work they have to put in, rather than see those who take the simpler (and somewhat easier) option often earning as much as they do.

[Pseudo]

Manufacturing in this country is going to continue on a downward spiral because of the ridiculous salaries these workers receive. The unions are to blame just as much as anyone, how can an industry that's struggling so much afford to continually increase wages and better working conditions. I'm all for people working hard and making a decent salary, but many of these workers who won't have the ability or skill-sets to work in different environments are getting paid too much. People who choose to gain a trade or undertake academic training/study should be rewarded for the hard work they have to put in, rather than see those who take the simpler (and somewhat easier) option often earning as much as they do.

So if I complete a doctorate degree on the anthropological impact of the Syrian tree frog migration upon the native art of Bedouin tribes then I should earn more than somebody doing menial but useful work, simply because I worked hard to get that qualification?

Riiiiiiiight....

[Q.]

Manufacturing in this country is going to continue on a downward spiral because of the ridiculous salaries these workers receive. The unions are to blame just as much as anyone, how can an industry that's struggling so much afford to continually increase wages and better working conditions. I'm all for people working hard and making a decent salary, but many of these workers who won't have the ability or skill-sets to work in different environments are getting paid too much. People who choose to gain a trade or undertake academic training/study should be rewarded for the hard work they have to put in, rather than see those who take the simpler (and somewhat easier) option often earning as much as they do.

Maybe the big wigs earning the huge dollars should do their job and make sure the company is innovative and ahead of the curve.

The failure was an inability to create demand for their product. This is not the factory worker's fault.

[dedja]

So far off the mark its not funny Michael Aish ...

[Bully]

yet no one sees its the Australian public who decides what cars they buy or have bought. If the Australian public didn't buy make believe 4Wds, mazdaz, hyundais etc then holdens would still be here for many years.

If holdens decided to build small cars in the country then they would still be here for many years.

[dedja]

Exactly. Look at the sales of Japanese made cars in Australia, don't tell me the Jap workers aren't getting paid decent coin.