bennymacca wrote:Teachers and farmers are the only two types of workers that continually try and tell everyone else how hard their job is, like if they say it enough times it must come true
Incredibly ignorant comment.
by Spargo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
bennymacca wrote:Teachers and farmers are the only two types of workers that continually try and tell everyone else how hard their job is, like if they say it enough times it must come true
by bennymacca » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:01 pm
Spargo wrote:bennymacca wrote:Teachers and farmers are the only two types of workers that continually try and tell everyone else how hard their job is, like if they say it enough times it must come true
Incredibly ignorant comment.
by LMA » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:05 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Im tipping Pag works alot harder than most of us who post daily on here.
**** if I’d ever be a teacher in this day and age.............
by Dutchy » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:10 pm
Pag wrote:There are poor and lazy teachers out there, as there are in every profession/trade, but for the majority, six is a more realistic number.
by Spargo » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:59 pm
bennymacca wrote:Spargo wrote:bennymacca wrote:Teachers and farmers are the only two types of workers that continually try and tell everyone else how hard their job is, like if they say it enough times it must come true
Incredibly ignorant comment.
I lived in a farming town and 5 of my immediate family are teachers, and I used to work in the public service
I’m not for a second saying they don’t earn their money but I’ve met more self righteous teachers than any other profession
So thanks for your input
by bennymacca » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:09 pm
Dutchy wrote:Pag wrote:There are poor and lazy teachers out there, as there are in every profession/trade, but for the majority, six is a more realistic number.
This bit frustrates me, and Im sure it frustrates the good teachers, why are they not made accountable?
If you don't mind me asking Pag, do you have regular performance discussions with the principal? Do they grade each teacher?
by Pag » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:27 pm
Dutchy wrote:Pag wrote:There are poor and lazy teachers out there, as there are in every profession/trade, but for the majority, six is a more realistic number.
This bit frustrates me, and Im sure it frustrates the good teachers, why are they not made accountable?
If you don't mind me asking Pag, do you have regular performance discussions with the principal? Do they grade each teacher?
by Corona Man » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:52 am
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:59 am
Off to FlemingtonCorona Man wrote:All games of cricket called off today..... FFS
by Corona Man » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:09 am
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Off to FlemingtonCorona Man wrote:All games of cricket called off today..... FFS
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by PatowalongaPirate » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 am
Corona Man wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Off to FlemingtonCorona Man wrote:All games of cricket called off today..... FFS
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by LMA » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:56 am
by Dutchy » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:07 pm
Pag wrote:Dutchy wrote:Pag wrote:There are poor and lazy teachers out there, as there are in every profession/trade, but for the majority, six is a more realistic number.
This bit frustrates me, and Im sure it frustrates the good teachers, why are they not made accountable?
If you don't mind me asking Pag, do you have regular performance discussions with the principal? Do they grade each teacher?
Can't speak for every site but we have semi-annual Performance Management meetings with our line manager (either Principal, Deputy or Assistant Principal), usually after we've been observed in the classroom.
It does frustrate the good teachers, especially as it reflects on the majority in the public eye. People tend to remember the bad ones more than the good ones IMO, as I believe they are the minority, they tend to stand out more. The point you make around poor teachers is correct, and Principals have asked for more power in selecting their staff. Some teachers may have won a permanent position at their site in the 80s or 90s and not changed their pedagogies or practices since, and it is incredibly hard for principals to move these staff members on who are locked to their school. There are plenty of enthusiastic teachers who are stuck in a term-by-term or year-by-year contract situations who would like to see this changed as well.
by locky801 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:39 pm
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:25 pm
locky801 wrote:The driver of the BMW that hit the koala on Main North Road Gepps Cross and didnt stop and left it lying injured in the middle of the road, sending heaps of karma your way you POS, thankfully a few of us stopped and collected the injured koala and got him to a vet
by Footy Chick » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:16 pm
locky801 wrote:The driver of the BMW that hit the koala on Main North Road Gepps Cross and didnt stop and left it lying injured in the middle of the road, sending heaps of karma your way you POS, thankfully a few of us stopped and collected the injured koala and got him to a vet
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by Pag » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:02 am
Dutchy wrote:Pag wrote:Dutchy wrote:Pag wrote:There are poor and lazy teachers out there, as there are in every profession/trade, but for the majority, six is a more realistic number.
This bit frustrates me, and Im sure it frustrates the good teachers, why are they not made accountable?
If you don't mind me asking Pag, do you have regular performance discussions with the principal? Do they grade each teacher?
Can't speak for every site but we have semi-annual Performance Management meetings with our line manager (either Principal, Deputy or Assistant Principal), usually after we've been observed in the classroom.
It does frustrate the good teachers, especially as it reflects on the majority in the public eye. People tend to remember the bad ones more than the good ones IMO, as I believe they are the minority, they tend to stand out more. The point you make around poor teachers is correct, and Principals have asked for more power in selecting their staff. Some teachers may have won a permanent position at their site in the 80s or 90s and not changed their pedagogies or practices since, and it is incredibly hard for principals to move these staff members on who are locked to their school. There are plenty of enthusiastic teachers who are stuck in a term-by-term or year-by-year contract situations who would like to see this changed as well.
Thanks Pag some great insight, sounds like it needs an overhaul, should be some more performance based metrics IMO, pay for performance and weed out the poor ones, not just wait for natural attrition. Im sure there are some great young teachers who can't get a permanent role cause of the dead wood holding these roles.
by DOC » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:48 pm
locky801 wrote:The driver of the BMW that hit the koala on Main North Road Gepps Cross and didnt stop and left it lying injured in the middle of the road, sending heaps of karma your way you POS, thankfully a few of us stopped and collected the injured koala and got him to a vet
by Dutchy » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:07 pm
Pag wrote:
Short answer, I don't know how you'd measure it across the board, besides maybe a principal rating each teacher's value to the individual site.
by Booney » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:25 am
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