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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:43 am
by LaughingKookaburra
The Bedge wrote:I heard last night that the NRL (and possibly the AFL) are exploring resuming their seasons in May.

NRL are planning on having the comp split into two conferences essentially - half the clubs will be based and play out of Penrith leagues club and the other half out of Olympic Park


Professional comps seems a bit more realistic. At least you can quarantine players and officials - That’s based on absolutely no setbacks.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:44 am
by football tragic
There are 2 ways out of this virus
1.Vaccine which is 18 months away best case scenario or they don't find one or
2. Herd immunity
Do you honestly think the country can sustain and economy under current restrictions ???
answer is NO.
So herd immunity only way through.

Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:49 am
by RustyCage
football tragic wrote:Herd immunity imminent in SA starting first week May and then trickle feeding sport etc.
First week June big possibility amateur football recommencing.
That would be completely moronic. Just look at Sweden

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:50 am
by RustyCage
football tragic wrote:There are 2 ways out of this virus
1.Vaccine which is 18 months away best case scenario or they don't find one or
2. Herd immunity
Do you honestly think the country can sustain and economy under current restrictions ???
answer is NO.
So herd immunity only way through.
So how do you envision herd immunity working?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:56 am
by LaughingKookaburra
football tragic wrote:There are 2 ways out of this virus
1.Vaccine which is 18 months away best case scenario or they don't find one or
2. Herd immunity
Do you honestly think the country can sustain and economy under current restrictions ???
answer is NO.
So herd immunity only way through.


Or you control cases within your own country without completely blowing up the economy and then from there control what comes in and then manage flare ups in the community. From there rewind things back slowly and maintain social distancing. Pretty much what SA, WA and Tasmania have done now.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:12 am
by football tragic
herd immunity would mean starting in may
opening up cafes and pubs to lower capacities as we did at the start of this before we knew the spread.
watching for levels of increase over a 2 -3 week period knowing that there will be an increase but managing for health departments.
If working well after 2 weeks then move onto sporting groups at a senior level and again watching for potential spikes.
Whilst all elderly or high risk groups adhere to the current restrictions and only go out for essential health and food requirements.
With SA at such a low rate of community transmission this could work really well here and WA.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:19 am
by Lightning McQueen
I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:22 am
by Q.
football tragic wrote:herd immunity would mean starting in may
opening up cafes and pubs to lower capacities as we did at the start of this before we knew the spread.
watching for levels of increase over a 2 -3 week period knowing that there will be an increase but managing for health departments.
If working well after 2 weeks then move onto sporting groups at a senior level and again watching for potential spikes.
Whilst all elderly or high risk groups adhere to the current restrictions and only go out for essential health and food requirements.
With SA at such a low rate of community transmission this could work really well here and WA.


Not going to happen by May.

SA would need to widen testing criteria and go at least 4 weeks with ZERO new cases.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:23 am
by MW
Lightning McQueen wrote:I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.


that's not ignorance thats desperation.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:26 am
by am Bays
Herd immunity (a theory that isn't proven yet) relies on 60% of the population to be have been infected, obviously increasing the percentage of those infected increases the effectiveness of the "herd immunity.

Currently SA only at 0.0003% infected.

Bit of a while to go yet before the herd immunity theory becomes effective...

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:27 am
by Q.
Some cool economic data coming through, showing impact of lockdown on business categories and impact of stimulus package:

https://www.alphabeta.com/illiontracking

Check out the 'consumer spending by category' changes :shock:

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:27 am
by Brodlach
MW wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.


that's not ignorance thats desperation.


And sad

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:27 am
by Pag
Dutchy wrote:No where did I say teachers aren't doing a great job, but it is undeniable they pushed the government to the point where they agreed to close this week.

Despite low attendence rates prior to this week you didn't see kids everywhere as the parents who kept them home made sure they did exactly that.

This week is considered by the kids as an additional week of holidays so are out and about everywhere.

How is what kids do in their school holidays the responsibility of teachers? I doubt your boss is coming to your house during your annual leave instructing you to stay home, while having zero authority over you during that time.

I'll repeat, parents gotta parent.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:30 am
by amber_fluid
MW wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.


that's not ignorance thats desperation.


Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:32 am
by Lightning McQueen
amber_fluid wrote:
Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.


I seen a few doley's I know flashing their $750 on FB yesterday or showing how much piss they bought, I refrained from comment.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:34 am
by Booney
amber_fluid wrote:
MW wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.


that's not ignorance thats desperation.


Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.


It'll be a lot longer but I don't care, we have to look after the here and now and worry about what impact it has later, we can't have people losing their homes or going to sleep hungry. That's not how our country works.

You can expect a rise in the GST and luxury items like cigarettes and grog are bound to sky rocket.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:37 am
by amber_fluid
Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.


I seen a few doley's I know flashing their $750 on FB yesterday or showing how much piss they bought, I refrained from comment.


I don’t get the payment to long term doley’s.
That’s another story though.

But any payments or funds to keep people employed or business afloat, I’m happy to wear the cost for years to come.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:38 am
by woodublieve12
unbelievable we are nearing 90k deaths world wide!!! :(

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:39 am
by amber_fluid
Booney wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
MW wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I witnessed new level ignorance this morning, I had to do a quick trip to the bank at Northpark shopping centre this morning, while I was driving through the carpark I noticed a bloke rummaging through a bin, he pulled out a coffee cup with a lid on it, shook it around for a sec and then drank the remnants from it tilting his head as far back as he could, absolutely appaling.


that's not ignorance thats desperation.


Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.


It'll be a lot longer but I don't care, we have to look after the here and now and worry about what impact it has later, we can't have people losing their homes or going to sleep hungry. That's not how our country works.

You can expect a rise in the GST and luxury items like cigarettes and grog are bound to sky rocket.


I think you might be right with more than 15 years unfortunately.

I’m happy to pay extra tax in any form to assist moving forward though.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:43 am
by Lightning McQueen
amber_fluid wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Unfortunately there will be a lot more of this as well.

I think the government are doing a great job currently with government assistance and I hope they continue to do so.

If we have to pay for this for the next 10-15 years then so be it.


I seen a few doley's I know flashing their $750 on FB yesterday or showing how much piss they bought, I refrained from comment.


I don’t get the payment to long term doley’s.
That’s another story though.

But any payments or funds to keep people employed or business afloat, I’m happy to wear the cost for years to come.


That's my only gripe, they aren't being disadvantaged.

I'm actually using this time to be smarter with my money and not take things for granted, I haven't been disadvantaged, I haven't stockpiled, I did buy an extra slab on two different visits to put away just incase the bottle shops close for any length of time but as a whole I'm trying to distinguish how much money I actually used to waste each month.

I like a beer, I like a punt and I love going to the pub, it's going to be interesting to see the difference now as whenever I had a win I'd take the missus out for dinner, go to the shop the next day to buy her a dress or some perfume, some shit for the house and a couple of things for myself, I can't do any of them anymore.