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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:16 am
by Q.
Zartan wrote:How is it that something like discussing a date being changed, or Mundine saying he wont stand for the anthem can create such venomous attacks/discussion/hatred.. but yet things like legalising marijuana, increased interest rates, higher cost of living expenses, statewide power outages, murders, pedophile attacks etc etc all just go past everyone without a second look and very little discussing/interest?!


Because shame commonly mutates into anger.

"What you see in others is what you see in yourself" - all I see on social media is a lot of people who hate themselves, and thus hate others

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:21 am
by therisingblues
Zartan wrote:How is it that something like discussing a date being changed, or Mundine saying he wont stand for the anthem can create such venomous attacks/discussion/hatred.. but yet things like legalising marijuana, increased interest rates, higher cost of living expenses, statewide power outages, murders, pedophile attacks etc etc all just go past everyone without a second look and very little discussing/interest?!

Honestly, the media has so much to answer for, i really feel like they're trying to build this hatred and divide in this country.. they know removing a snippet of conversation from a controversial person, then manipulate it as a "breaking headline" and plaster it all over the place.

Seems to me they only ever publish articles that they know are going to cause friction - articles about outspoken athletes, misbehaviour from athletes, articles about minority groups and articles about religions such as Muslim.

What ever happened to just reporting the news? Like actual proper news?

Infotainment.
I don't know what the answer is, but I agree with you. Blurring the line between what should be factual information on which people form opinion, with fictional storylines and imaginative editing designed to evoke an emotional response is doing great harm to our society IMO.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:28 am
by Magellan
MatteeG wrote:
Magellan wrote: Or "wardrobe malfunction".


Useless without pics...

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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:40 am
by Footy Chick
:YMAPPLAUSE: :YMAPPLAUSE: :YMAPPLAUSE:

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:09 pm
by Dog_ger2
If you don't like it, Live somewhere else.

Invasion day, Bull shit.

So who you guys stole it from.

Kangaroo day..

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:50 pm
by Spargo
This'll be good...

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:19 pm
by Wedgie
Spargo wrote:This'll be good...

Its just Dog_ger being Dog_ger. At least I know Im on the sane side of the discussion. ;)

It is ironic though that he tells a lot of us to live elsewhere as I'd probably be living overseas at the moment if it wasnt for a Pom, well a Pom up to Jan 26, an Aussie now :lol:

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:28 am
by stan
Q. wrote:
Zartan wrote:How is it that something like discussing a date being changed, or Mundine saying he wont stand for the anthem can create such venomous attacks/discussion/hatred.. but yet things like legalising marijuana, increased interest rates, higher cost of living expenses, statewide power outages, murders, pedophile attacks etc etc all just go past everyone without a second look and very little discussing/interest?!


Because shame commonly mutates into anger.

"What you see in others is what you see in yourself" - all I see on social media is a lot of people who hate themselves, and thus hate others

Social media is a angry place at times.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:47 am
by stan
The onus is on the individual really. News.com has less credibility than the tiser at times and that says alot. The key is to get information from more than one source. Sure hitting up the age or Hsun are ok for some local stuff but if you really want to know more about whats happeneing overseas like in Syria for example, then do a it of research and you will find even on facebook pages and sites which are about this and out of the region.

Again its on the individual to do this and if you just want to watch sunrise and thats your news source well then thats on you.

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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:26 am
by Magellan
Dog_ger2 wrote:If you don't like it, Live somewhere else.

Invasion day, Bull shit.

So who you guys stole it from.

Kangaroo day..

And here's one of the infamous invaders in action, abducting a young hapless kangaroo and paving the way for our national holiday.

Image

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:30 am
by Booney
Magellan wrote:
Dog_ger2 wrote:If you don't like it, Live somewhere else.

Invasion day, Bull shit.

So who you guys stole it from.

Kangaroo day..

And here's one of the infamous invaders in action, abducting a young hapless kangaroo and paving the way for our national holiday.

Image


"A broken leg? Down by the boat shed?"

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:56 am
by JK
Magellan wrote:
Dog_ger2 wrote:If you don't like it, Live somewhere else.

Invasion day, Bull shit.

So who you guys stole it from.

Kangaroo day..

And here's one of the infamous invaders in action, abducting a young hapless kangaroo and paving the way for our national holiday.

Image


Don't worry, Clarence will fix it

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:57 am
by therisingblues
stan wrote:The onus is on the individual really. News.com has less credibility than the tiser at times and that says alot. The key is to get information from more than one source. Sure hitting up the age or Hsun are ok for some local stuff but if you really want to know more about whats happeneing overseas like in Syria for example, then do a it of research and you will find even on facebook pages and sites which are about this and out of the region.

Again its on the individual to do this and if you just want to watch sunrise and thats your news source well then thats on you.

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This is true.
However, the tendency for alot of people is to believe what's put in front of them, especially if it's juicy.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:03 am
by bennymacca
The difference in the social media age is that there is no longer an accepted basis of "facts"

In the past both sides would read roughly the same news and then make their own conclusions. But in the social media age people typically follow pages that agree with their worldview and then the "facts" diverge so that people are no longer arguing about the same thing

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:04 am
by Magellan
stan wrote:The onus is on the individual really. News.com has less credibility than the tiser at times and that says alot. The key is to get information from more than one source. Sure hitting up the age or Hsun are ok for some local stuff but if you really want to know more about whats happeneing overseas like in Syria for example, then do a it of research and you will find even on facebook pages and sites which are about this and out of the region.

Again its on the individual to do this and if you just want to watch sunrise and thats your news source well then thats on you.

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This is why everyone should pay for a subscription to the news source of their choice, whether its lefty socialists at Fairfax, or the right wingers at Murdoch, or whoever. Like everything else on life, you pay for what you get. Quality journalism and criticism and analysis it brings doesn't come free. Unfortunately in the internet era we've become accustomed to free news, but this has clearly been shown as unsustainable, and if it continues to its logical conclusion the only news you'll get is from Facebook, or adverts disguised as news during a reality TV show.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:09 am
by bennymacca
Subscription services are also part of the problem unfortunately. I used to read quite a few articles from the Australian, as well as the guardian, abc and tiser.

Now what's left is the guardian which is mostly too left leaning for me (Stan and Grenville may laugh hearing that), and you only get the click bait from the tiser rather than the meaty articles.

Right wingers may disagree but I think this places more importance on the abc. Probably why the right have tried so hard to discredit it

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:29 am
by HH3
I tend to research, more than be fed news from a single source.

Usually, if I have heard of something I find interesting, I'll google it, and find a link to the most local source. (e.g I'll read things from the Houston news if it happened in Houston, etc).

After reading the first article, I'll move on to another one about the same topic, to see how that compares. A lot of the time, the articles are completely different, so I make up my mind which one I agree with.

I also do this whenever I see something, or someone I find interesting. Actors, sports people, noteworthy people. I read a lot more than I watch TV. I know a lot of useless shit.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:39 am
by mighty_tiger_79
I come on here for my news facts.
I read differing views and decide which one suits me.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:27 am
by Spargo
HH3 wrote:I post a lot of useless shit.

EFA ;)

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:35 am
by HH3
Spargo wrote:
HH3 wrote:I post a lot of useless shit.

EFA ;)


Im in good company