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Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:06 pm
by Wedgie
Footy Chick wrote:
jakovasaurus wrote:Change the date.

There's no pride in genocide.


No genocide happened on Jan 26, 1788 though

Is was the day it was kick started.
A very shameful day in our country's history, probably the worst.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:42 pm
by Jack
Shift it to 26/2 ?
Thats when Willem Janszoon and crew lobbed in Australia in 1606

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:09 pm
by RB
^Why would we do that? That has even less significance than 26th January.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:50 pm
by bennymacca
Footy Chick wrote:
jakovasaurus wrote:Change the date.

There's no pride in genocide.


No genocide happened on Jan 26, 1788 though

After seeing all the carry on about today and all the wankers, i'm for getting rid of it because it turns people into either pissed idiots or know it all lefty ****


The camp at Auschwitz wasnt around on September 1 1939 either.

At least have a coherent argument

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 pm
by Mr Beefy
First tuesday in november..

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:39 pm
by Jimmy_041
I saw this today

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:51 pm
by bennymacca
Protests that cause disruption do nothing to help the cause, and just get people who otherwise might support the cause to turn against it

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opin ... 2a3ac266c5

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:53 pm
by whufc
As I sit here drinking a baileys, playing back yard cricket while listening to AC/DC in my Barossa Rams rugby union singlet it's hard to argue that whether we like it or not the first fleet landing has had a major significance on all of our lives and has shaped every single one of us. For a lot us we would not be talking on SAFooty if it wasn't for the immigration of many countries to Australia

Whether we celebrate that on this day or not is an ongoing debate to which I'm really unsure of but the first fleet arriving is arguably the most significant and defining day in this countries history for good or bad

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:15 pm
by David Brent
RB wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Jim05 wrote:No biggie on the date but I'm dead against a flag change


Not quite sure why we have to have a union jack on our flag these days. But I like the blue and the southern cross

I love the current flag. Like it or not the Brits are a huge part of our history

Australians are an even bigger part of Australian history.

I think it's the ultimate act of subservience to have another country's flag on your own flag. We can remember the influence of the UK (and indeed of the many other nations from whom our antecedents migrated) without having another country's flag on top of ours.


Change the flag if/when we become a republic. No need to do it before hand.

I'm sure if we did become a republic 90% if the population would be in favour of removing the Union Jack. Leave it as is till then.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:29 pm
by Footy Chick
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/nt-aboriginal-leader-defends-january-26-australia-day-20170126-gtzd74.html

This lady has it right.

Concentrate on what we can and should be doing now and in the future instead of living in the past and blaming the people of today for something that happened hundreds of years ago - because it's not going to fix a bloody thing by moving it. Jan 26 will still come around every year and every year it'll continue to be remembered for the same reason, whether it's a recognised by a public holiday or not.

It makes you question the integrity of all these so called protesters against Australia Day - resorting to violence, in some cases, over something that has nothing to do with anybody living today but clearly don't care enough to fight or protest for equal rights, or to stop domestic violence in indigenous communities that still happens today.

Perhaps we should actually follow the Yanks for once - the holiday known as Columbus Day (the day he founded America) has been re-named to recognise Native Americans in a lot of states.

Indigenous Commemoration Day anyone?

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:38 pm
by Footy Chick
David Brent wrote:Change the flag if/when we become a republic. No need to do it before hand.

I'm sure if we did become a republic 90% if the population would be in favour of removing the Union Jack. Leave it as is till then.


Whatever we change it to, it will still have to have the southern cross on it or all the bogans will have to get their tatts lasered ;)

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:34 am
by Dogwatcher
Jimmy_041 wrote:I saw this today


That's an interesting poster.
Why that date on it?

It was 1936 when Australia Day was first mooted, wasn't it?

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:00 am
by am Bays
I saw this yesterday on bookface

Australia day should be May 8

May eight, Mayeight, Mayate,

MATE......

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:22 am
by whufc
am Bays wrote:I saw this yesterday on bookface

Australia day should be May 8

May eight, Mayeight, Mayate,

MATE......


I wouldn't have a problem with that if it did mean ALL Australians would embrace the day

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:01 am
by Pseudo
am Bays wrote:I saw this yesterday on bookface

Australia day should be May 8

May eight, Mayeight, Mayate,

MATE......


Four days after International Star Wars day 8)

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:02 am
by Pseudo
Jimmy_041 wrote:I saw this today


July 30 works; we need a holiday round about then to break up the monotony of winter.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:06 am
by Pseudo
bennymacca wrote:Ian McFarlane has suggested march 1st, as apparently that was the first date Australia began functioning under a national government.

Seems as good a day as any to me.

As long as we keep the Jan 26th public holiday too haha

^ yes. If Oz day gets moved, then retain Jan 26 as Invasion Day. The hand-wringers will have a rallying day for their cause, leaving Oz day free to be enjoyed by all.

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:24 am
by therisingblues
Footy Chick wrote:http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/nt-aboriginal-leader-defends-january-26-australia-day-20170126-gtzd74.html

This lady has it right.

Concentrate on what we can and should be doing now and in the future instead of living in the past and blaming the people of today for something that happened hundreds of years ago - because it's not going to fix a bloody thing by moving it. Jan 26 will still come around every year and every year it'll continue to be remembered for the same reason, whether it's a recognised by a public holiday or not.

It makes you question the integrity of all these so called protesters against Australia Day - resorting to violence, in some cases, over something that has nothing to do with anybody living today but clearly don't care enough to fight or protest for equal rights, or to stop domestic violence in indigenous communities that still happens today.

Perhaps we should actually follow the Yanks for once - the holiday known as Columbus Day (the day he founded America) has been re-named to recognise Native Americans in a lot of states.

Indigenous Commemoration Day anyone?

Interesting. There's an indigenous leader involved in politics in Fremantle who was saying similar things.
My feelings on the matter are guided by how the indigenous population feels about it. It doesn't affect me personally, but I can understand the argument they put forward.
If we were to poll just the indigenous population, I would say they'd return a majority sentiment that the date should be changed.
How would people feel about such a process being used to decide if we should change the date or not?

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:41 pm
by amber_fluid
whufc wrote:As I sit here drinking a baileys, playing back yard cricket while listening to AC/DC in my Barossa Rams rugby union singlet it's hard to argue that whether we like it or not the first fleet landing has had a major significance on all of our lives and has shaped every single one of us. For a lot us we would not be talking on SAFooty if it wasn't for the immigration of many countries to Australia

Whether we celebrate that on this day or not is an ongoing debate to which I'm really unsure of but the first fleet arriving is arguably the most significant and defining day in this countries history for good or bad


Real AC/DC fans don't drink bailey's. ;)

Re: Should Australia Day date be changed?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:58 pm
by Jimmy_041
Someone saying there should be a referendum on changing the date for Australia Day. I agree
But will we have to put up with the lefty protests afterwards when they get smashed by the normal people of Australia?