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I'm not arguing with you about excessive eating. I am simply pointing out that even if you stay under your calorie limit by eating crap, you are eventually going to binge as your body needs certain nutrients. This is what leads to overeating in most cases anyway. Not eating the right food in the first place.

But what would I know I'm only halfway through a Bachelor of Science in Nutrition.

whufc wrote:Please, please, please, please, please don't take this as an attack on your post but me personally (work in a facility that has a health club, not a personal trainer though but does a lot of membership sales, tours etc as part of my role, was 30kg heavier and have now dropped 16% of my body fat and a lot of that is thanks to kickinits advice on lifting, now uses a gym 4 days a week religiously)

Dropping 16% body fat is a huge effort. Well done and i'm glad i've in some way.

cennals05 wrote:I'm not arguing with you about excessive eating. I am simply pointing out that even if you stay under your calorie limit by eating crap, you are eventually going to binge as your body needs certain nutrients. This is what leads to overeating in most cases anyway. Not eating the right food in the first place.

But what would I know I'm only halfway through a Bachelor of Science in Nutrition.

People don't care much for Science around here

kickinit wrote:

whufc wrote:Please, please, please, please, please don't take this as an attack on your post but me personally (work in a facility that has a health club, not a personal trainer though but does a lot of membership sales, tours etc as part of my role, was 30kg heavier and have now dropped 16% of my body fat and a lot of that is thanks to kickinits advice on lifting, now uses a gym 4 days a week religiously)

Dropping 16% body fat is a huge effort. Well done and i'm glad i've in some way.

went from 25% body fat to now reading at 9% body fat.

have stuck with your muscles groupings such as chest and bi's and have got results brilliantly.

you were one of the first people i had heard of that combined chest and bi's rather than bi and tri or chest and tri and the more i read and learn about it the combo of chest and bi's is by far the most effective.

my weekly combo if everything goes fine is

Mon- triceps and shoulders
Tues- legs
Wed- chest and biceps
Thurs- day off work spend with kids at home.
Fri- back and abs
Sat- play cricket so count that as my cardio provided i hit runs lol.
Sun- rest

cennals05 wrote:I'm not arguing with you about excessive eating. I am simply pointing out that even if you stay under your calorie limit by eating crap, you are eventually going to binge as your body needs certain nutrients. This is what leads to overeating in most cases anyway. Not eating the right food in the first place.

But what would I know I'm only halfway through a Bachelor of Science in Nutrition.

I'm not arguing against eating crap i'm definitely a advocate for eating a healthy well balanced diet, or some will say bro science diet, I couldn't even tell you the last time I eat fast food. But I will argue against binge eating because your not getting certain nutrients. Yes your body needs different nutrients and not having some could very bad for the body. Binge eating is all in the mind. Do a little experiment of going to the shops hungry and then do go again another time but eat before you go. I guarantee you will be more inclined to buy chips and lollies when your hungry over when your not. Eating six meals a day at the same time is one of the biggest things to stop being hungry.

That's good that your doing a degree in nutrition, but my knowledge hasn't come from a text book it's come from actually doing it. And out of all the people I've helped out with there diet and exercise have all achieved their goals.

whufc wrote:went from 25% body fat to now reading at 9% body fat.

Bish, you shredded now.

Q. wrote:

whufc wrote:went from 25% body fat to now reading at 9% body fat.

Bish, you shredded now.

Not there just yet. Just got a tiny layer of fat on the abs and obleeks I needs to get rid of lol

But im to scared of eating less than i currently am and losing some of the new found muscle i have.

Damn i hate the balance.

whufc wrote:

Q. wrote:

whufc wrote:went from 25% body fat to now reading at 9% body fat.

Bish, you shredded now.

Not there just yet. Just got a tiny layer of fat on the abs and obleeks I needs to get rid of lol

But im to scared of eating less than i currently am and losing some of the new found muscle i have.

Damn i hate the balance.

Add another ab session to tuesday and if at all possible do a fasted cardio session once a week, should be able to burn off that little bit extra fat with out having to adjust calories. With the 2 ab session set different rep ranges say one session look to hit around 6 raps per exercise and the other session look to hit 12 reps.

kickinit wrote:

whufc wrote:

Q. wrote:

whufc wrote:went from 25% body fat to now reading at 9% body fat.

Bish, you shredded now.

Not there just yet. Just got a tiny layer of fat on the abs and obleeks I needs to get rid of lol

But im to scared of eating less than i currently am and losing some of the new found muscle i have.

Damn i hate the balance.

Add another ab session to tuesday and if at all possible do a fasted cardio session once a week, should be able to burn off that little bit extra fat with out having to adjust calories. With the 2 ab session set different rep ranges say one session look to hit around 6 raps per exercise and the other session look to hit 12 reps.

Awesome ill give that a crack, roughly how many ab exercise do u do in an AB workout

about 3-4 but i'll usually do about 6 sets per exercise

Interesting: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 150057.htm

Mutations within the gene FTO have been implicated as the strongest genetic determinant of obesity risk in humans, but the mechanism behind this link remained unknown. Now, an international team of scientists has discovered that the obesity-associated elements within FTO interact with IRX3, a distant gene on the genome that appears to be the functional obesity gene. The FTO gene itself appears to have only a peripheral effect on obesity.

Now all you need is the one for muscle hypertrophy which we know exists in some cattle breeds.

Psyber wrote:
Now all you need is the one for muscle hypertrophy which we know exists in some cattle breeds.

Mutated MSTN gene reduces myostatin production. Will be the basis of the new generation of PEDs.

A quote from Gary Player

Eat breakfast like a king

Lunch like a prince

Dinner like a pauper