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Bray Wyatt the new wwe champion.

woodublieve12 wrote:Bray Wyatt the new wwe champion.

My house cheered when bland boring Cena got pinned

Mickyj wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:Bray Wyatt the new wwe champion.

My house cheered when bland boring Cena got pinned

I am happy he won it! But how can you say Cena is bland and boring he has been part of possibly some of the best matches recently. I can't recall the last bad one. He's getting better with age!

woodublieve12 wrote:

Mickyj wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:Bray Wyatt the new wwe champion.

My house cheered when bland boring Cena got pinned

I am happy he won it! But how can you say Cena is bland and boring he has been part of possibly some of the best matches recently. I can't recall the last bad one. He's getting better with age!

I think his opponents deserve the credit for this more than Cena does.

Looks like Wrestlemania might be looking something like:
Wyatt vs Orton
Owens vs Jericho
Lesnar vs Goldberg
HHH vs Rollins (if Seth recovers in time)
Big Show vs Shaq
Reigns vs Undertaker
Bayley vs Charlotte vs Banks vs Jax
Cena & Bella vs The Miz & Maryse
Andre the Giant Battle Royal
Intercontinental title ladder match

I would think AJ and Balor would have a match on the card too, maybe against each other in Raw vs S/D match.

Mic wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:

Mickyj wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:Bray Wyatt the new wwe champion.

My house cheered when bland boring Cena got pinned

I am happy he won it! But how can you say Cena is bland and boring he has been part of possibly some of the best matches recently. I can't recall the last bad one. He's getting better with age!

I think his opponents deserve the credit for this more than Cena does.

Looks like Wrestlemania might be looking something like:
Wyatt vs Orton
Owens vs Jericho
Lesnar vs Goldberg
HHH vs Rollins (if Seth recovers in time)
Big Show vs Shaq
Reigns vs Undertaker
Bayley vs Charlotte vs Banks vs Jax
Cena & Bella vs The Miz & Maryse
Andre the Giant Battle Royal
Intercontinental title ladder match

I would think AJ and Balor would have a match on the card too, maybe against each other in Raw vs S/D match.

Actually, Joe vs Balor and Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles are rumoured match ups.

This years Mania will take a big steaming pile of Reigns all over last years Mania.

Card looks good and still plenty of potential for a few surprises.

wristwatcher wrote:This years Mania will take a big steaming pile of Reigns all over last years Mania.

Card looks good and still plenty of potential for a few surprises.

Yeah mania is looking pretty good. The orton vs bray feud looks good, but I feel they rushed it on smack down this week... it was awesome too

Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

woodublieve12 wrote:

wristwatcher wrote:This years Mania will take a big steaming pile of Reigns all over last years Mania.

Card looks good and still plenty of potential for a few surprises.

Yeah mania is looking pretty good. The orton vs bray feud looks good, but I feel they rushed it on smack down this week... it was awesome too

Someone said to me today that Mania could be >5 hours.

Surely too long. Particularly when 4 of the main 5 matches each match contains a worker who is yet to work a full singles match in 2017
Oldberg
Taker
H3
Shane

KO v Jericho I have no doubt will steal the show

wristwatcher wrote:Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

GOLDBERG GOLDBERG GOLDBERG

Cash 123 wrote:

wristwatcher wrote:Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

GOLDBERG GOLDBERG GOLDBERG

That chant took longer than one of his one dimensional matches

Cash man always pushing my buttons

wristwatcher wrote:Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

What makes it even worse is that many of those "Goldberg" chants are coming from the PA system, not the crowd. If only WWE spent less effort on their audio tampering with guys like Goldberg, Cena and Reigns and more on their booking!

Assuming Goldberg vs Lesnar is the main event, it would mean that the headliner is a match between a guy who has had 3 matches in about 10 years (and appears blown up as soon as his entrance is finished), against a guy who has had 3 matches in the past year (most of which have last under 3 minutes). Not good.

The rest of the (rumoured 6 & a half hours long ) card looks fine. Hopefully, the show will produce the goods, will be watching as soon as I get home from work on Monday!

Mic wrote:

wristwatcher wrote:Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

What makes it even worse is that many of those "Goldberg" chants are coming from the PA system, not the crowd. If only WWE spent less effort on their audio tampering with guys like Goldberg, Cena and Reigns and more on their booking!

Assuming Goldberg vs Lesnar is the main event, it would mean that the headliner is a match between a guy who has had 3 matches in about 10 years (and appears blown up as soon as his entrance is finished), against a guy who has had 3 matches in the past year (most of which have last under 3 minutes). Not good.

The rest of the (rumoured 6 & a half hours long ) card looks fine. Hopefully, the show will produce the goods, will be watching as soon as I get home from work on Monday!

If someone posts the card post Smackdown I would mind having a crack at the results. Feels predictable to me but time will tell

The other night I watched the first hbk vs undertaker match at WM25. It was a masterpiece.

Also if someone is looking for a good YouTube wrestling channel get on whatculture. Really good stuff on there

woodublieve12 wrote:The other night I watched the first hbk vs undertaker match at WM25. It was a masterpiece.

Also if someone is looking for a good YouTube wrestling channel get on whatculture. Really good stuff on there

Definitely one of the top 5 best matches in Wrestlemania history.

Mic wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:The other night I watched the first hbk vs undertaker match at WM25. It was a masterpiece.

Also if someone is looking for a good YouTube wrestling channel get on whatculture. Really good stuff on there

Definitely one of the top 5 best matches in Wrestlemania history.

Steamboat v Savage at 3 still the best of the lot. I would have watched that match over 100 times in the last 30 years.

Throw in Gorilla and Jesse on commentary, Elizabeth, George the Animal and the amazing ring announcing of the Fink in front of 93K after the sun went down it truly was the GOAT Mania match.

Interesting to hear The Dragons take on it. He said he enjoyed some of his classics with Flair more as they would just call it instinctively and work the hour. Savage actually flew Steamboat out to Sarasota to practice and train together preparing for the match and was meticulous in putting the match together. He was OCD before it was a thing as he knew doing the job would propel him to super stardom. How right he was.

If you look at Machos early work he really was the original Mr. Wrestle mania always putting on amazing performances. 5 v Hogan, 7 v Warrior and 8 v Flair where all excellent.

In horrific news Taker is out to $4 to win at Mania. I will be disgusted if Reigns pins him with his little footy tackle.

wristwatcher wrote:

Mic wrote:

wristwatcher wrote:Insert comic book guy from the Simpsons "Worst PPV ever"

A 21 second main event piece of crap and a big FU to the people who pay the money to watch the product.

I have spent my last cent on the WWE unless they miraculously undo this travesty. Not sure how they can.

A 50 year washed up hack with limited skill set will now headline Mania against another guy who wrestles maybe 5 matches a year. It's a gimmick match and it didn't need the strap. Fair chance one of them will get injured and the whole thing could be a flop.

Whilst we are destroying and burying our talent let's have our two monster heels we have built for half a year job and lose clean the PPV before Mania.

Vince you really are the sh$ts

What makes it even worse is that many of those "Goldberg" chants are coming from the PA system, not the crowd. If only WWE spent less effort on their audio tampering with guys like Goldberg, Cena and Reigns and more on their booking!

Assuming Goldberg vs Lesnar is the main event, it would mean that the headliner is a match between a guy who has had 3 matches in about 10 years (and appears blown up as soon as his entrance is finished), against a guy who has had 3 matches in the past year (most of which have last under 3 minutes). Not good.

The rest of the (rumoured 6 & a half hours long ) card looks fine. Hopefully, the show will produce the goods, will be watching as soon as I get home from work on Monday!

If someone posts the card post Smackdown I would mind having a crack at the results. Feels predictable to me but time will tell

Well we all know the only 2 matches anyone cares about so lets start with them;

Goldberg v Lesnar - will go down in history as 2 icons face off for the title; lesnar to win

John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse; what a fued this has been very riveting viewing on smackdown in weeks gone bye. Cena to win but he wont propose to nikki

Very good match between Styles and Shane O

Late entry for Tag Team ladder match

Cena vs miz dead set waste of time should have been on pre show.