The Hogg Shield Promotion/Relegation Thread

[Rik E Boy]

Greetings Hoggers. This thread is for all things relegation and promotion for the 2011 Hogg Shield. With the relegation finals a mere three weeks away hopefully this information will help you devise your promotion or survival strategy for next season.

Promotion Rules: Hogg Division I to Hogg Division III

In Round 19 of the AFL season, the SuperCoach finals begin. For coaches in the Divisions above if you can make it to the Grand Final of your league you will be offered a promotion into the next highest grade.

Relegation Rules: Hogg Premier to Hogg Division II

In Round 19 of the AFL season, a 'finals' series is held for the bottom eight of your league. If you are in an 'Elimination' final that means you are in the drop zone and up for relegation. If you lose your Relegation final you will be playing in a lower Division next season (a drop of one grade).

Relegation Rules: Hogg Division III

If you lose your Relegation final (see above) you will drop into the Pool rather than be relegated to Division IV. All of the grades lower than Division III are in a pool with positions in Division IV offered by rankings points.

Promotion Rules: Hogg Division IV

The two highest ranking eligble sides (i.e. sides not already playing in a higher division) will be offered places in Hogg Division III next season.


regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

The Pool

The Pool is for all coaches who are not currently in Hogg Premier to Hogg Division IV, i.e. All Division V and VI coaches and first time Hogg coaches for season 2011.

Promotion Rules: Hogg Division V and VI

The top sixteen sides in order of rankings points will be invited to play in Hogg Division IV next season. Standings will be posted in this thread. If the Hogg Division IV coaches do not elect to be premoted (as we're pretty casual in the Piglet!) then the top two ranked sides would then be promoted to Division III.

If any coach in a higher grade elects not to play in 2011 then teams from the Pool may get shifted into Division III in this way as well.

New coaches 2011

Precedence is given to existing Hogg coaches. All new coaches must produce proof of their overall ranking points to be seeded higher in their first Hogg season. New coaches will not be offered a place in Hogg Premier or Hogg Divisions I or II regardless of how good they were this season.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Promotion Race Round 13

Please note that the Promotion Race runs until Round 22 of the AFL season. Leisa's Lovelies, BenjisBeasts and THEBLOODS are not eligble as they are already in higher grades.

Division IV candidates

1 Longwood Lions 34458
2 Loathsome 34179
3 Delicious 34053
4 Straycat Strut 34044
5 Jim's TigerRoos 33977
6 Omg I got RKO'd 33807
7 cdfcdevils 33557
8 wonder elephants 33479
9 Stats Enough 33449
10 Nutkickers 33359
11 whufc 33324
12 Killer Wombats! 32774
13 Toomenny Beers 32643
14 BloodnTars 32632
15 Baron Greenbacks 32358
16 Knuckle Sandwich 31882

Division V candidates

17 Ankles United 31481
18 The Goonies 31413
19 TEAM_FISH 31339
20 Prestige Worldwide 30453
21 Sean's Knights 29813
22 The Glory Shed 29640
23 Uncle Tin 29421
24 HorsePlay 28644
25 Heater's Hotshots 28153
26 Thiele Crows 27285
27 Radelaide 26305
28 Mumma's Boys 25858
29 Far West 25640
30 Strawbsberries 24977
31 TheWorstThereIs 19603

regards,

REB

[fish]

Thanks REB that is good info. A few questions:

Will the pool system for Divisions lower than III apply again at the end of 2011 or will Div IV, Div V and Div VI revert to a promotion/relegation system like the upper four Divisions?

Have you considered the notion of promoting/relegating four teams from each Division rather than just two - it would see more teams moving up and down each year and would make things more interesting for more teams.

What is the story with coaches (such as yourself) who have teams in several Divisions? Can these teams ever be placed in the same Division so they are effectively playing against themselves?

[Rik E Boy]

Thanks REB that is good info. A few questions:

Will the pool system for Divisions lower than III apply again at the end of 2011 or will Div IV, Div V and Div VI revert to a promotion/relegation system like the upper four Divisions?

Have you considered the notion of promoting/relegating four teams from each Division rather than just two - it would see more teams moving up and down each year and would make things more interesting for more teams.

What is the story with coaches (such as yourself) who have teams in several Divisions? Can these teams ever be placed in the same Division so they are effectively playing against themselves?

I reckon relegating four teams is a bit harsh. In English Premier League they relegate three out of 20 so four out of 16 is a bit rude. The current system allows for an off season. Another thing to remember is that a lot of coaches quit every year. So that means seeding can be a difficult thing to arrange and it would get a lot harder with four going in and out each year.

In answer to your second question, the only coach who has two teams is myself. Everyone else (eg THE BLOODS, Boontime) it's the same side in different Hogg Leagues. Straycat Strut has been created to help me manage the leagues. If I could find a 'captain' in each league I wouldn't need to create the Strutties. Straycat Strut will never play against REBCats.

As for the pool next year. Haven't thought that far ahead.

regards,

REB

[fish]

Straycat Strut will never play against REBCats.

Thanks REB

[Ingall]

If I could find a 'captain' in each league I wouldn't need to create the Strutties.

I'm happy to captain Div IV next year

[Rik E Boy]

If I could find a 'captain' in each league I wouldn't need to create the Strutties.

I'm happy to captain Div IV next year

Cheers mate I'll remember that.

regards,

REB

[Baron Greenback]

If I could find a 'captain' in each league I wouldn't need to create the Strutties.

I'm happy to captain Div IV next year

I really hope your name isn't based on Russell Ingall! I hate that guy!

[Ingall]

If I could find a 'captain' in each league I wouldn't need to create the Strutties.

I'm happy to captain Div IV next year

I really hope your name isn't based on Russell Ingall! I hate that guy!

It's not, but I kinda wish it was now

[Rik E Boy]

Promotion Race Round 14

Division IV candidates

1 Longwood Lions 36529
2 Jim's TigerRoos 36486
3 Loathsome 36222
4 Delicious 36088
5 Straycat Strut 35894
6 Omg I got RKO'd 35886
7 Stats Enough 35560
8 wonder elephants 35516
9 cdfcdevils 35439
10 Nutkickers 35395
11 whufc 35313
12 Killer Wombats! 34995
13 BloodnTars 34759
14 Toomenny Beers 34735
15 Baron Greenbacks 34461
16 Knuckle Sandwich 33866

Division V candidates

17 Ankles United 33417
18 The Goonies 33389
19 TEAM_FISH 33116
20 Prestige Worldwide 32393
21 Sean's Knights 31542
22 The Glory Shed 31410
23 Uncle Tin 31204
24 HorsePlay 30374
25 Heater's Hotshots 30072
26 Thiele Crows 28974
27 Mumma's Boys 27689
28 Radelaide 27636
29 Far West 26941
30 Strawbsberries 26761
31 TheWorstThereIs 20907

regards,

REB

[Baron Greenback]

I really hope your name isn't based on Russell Ingall! I hate that guy!

It's not, but I kinda wish it was now

Bwahaha!

[Rik E Boy]

Promotion Race Round 15

Division IV candidates

1 Longwood Lions 38,680
2 Jim's TigerRoos 38,542
3 Loathsome 38,235
4 Delicious 38,106
5 Straycat Strut 37,948
6 Omg I got RKO'd 37,940
7 Stats Enough 37,601
8 wonder elephants 37,535
9 Nutkickers 37,518
10 whufc 37,441
11 cdfcdevils 37,369
12 Killer Wombats! 37,186
13 BloodnTars 36,845
14 Toomenny Beers 36,763
15 Baron Greenbacks 36,548
16 Knuckle Sandwich 35,706

Division V candidates

17 Ankles United 35,475
18 The Goonies 35,419
19 TEAM_FISH 34,734
20 Prestige Worldwide 34,244
21 The Glory Shed 33,274
22 Sean's Knights 33,245
23 Uncle Tin 32,977
24 HorsePlay 32,049
25 Heater's Hotshots 31,895
26 Thiele Crows 30,661
27 Mumma's Boys 29,490
28 Radelaide 28,654
29 Far West 28,315
30 Strawbsberries 28,280
31 TheWorstThereIs 22,015

Ankles a fair way behind Knuckle Sandwich so this looks done and dusted. If the Piglet teams don't accept their promotion then Longwood Lions and Jim's TigerRoos would go into Division III and Ankles and Goonies would go into Division IV.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Relegation Finals 2010

Losers of all matches relegated to the grade below it.

Hogg Premier

Brown nosed Fev vs. chardy socialists
Squeakeroos vs. Buddy&TheBoys

Brown nosed Fev will go into their second relegation final in a row but even though they are in form they face a tough test against chardy socialists. Squeakeroos won Division I last year but could go straight back down if they can't beat Buddy who was playing Hogg Premier finals this time last year.

Hogg Division I

LKIF vs. Pickles PA
Blue Boy vs. cobras

Pickles PA and cobras have been dragging the chain all year and both are likely to face the drop.

Hogg Division II

My Name's not Norm vs. Boontime
Copper Handfull vs. Raging Hooligans

Bum Crack was talking it up early in the year and has had a shocker this season but still he should have Booney covered. Permstance should take out the Raging Hooligans to earn a second shot at Division II.

Hogg Division III

Year of the Tiger vs. TheWorstThereIs
Onegameatatimers vs. Strawbsberries

Year of the Tiger and the Onegameatatimers should both stay 'out of the pool' with wins this week.

regards,

REB

[Hondo]

Bye bye Pickles thanks for not doing anything this year other than picking a starting team and messing with Div 1's ranking. Don't think he logged in since March

[CoverKing]

Bye bye Pickles thanks for not doing anything this year other than picking a starting team and messing with Div 1's ranking. Don't think he logged in since March

Hondo, have u looked at where i ranking would be if we had another person instead of Pickles, say averaging the same as 15th placed?

Would we be close to Hogg Premier? Damn pickles!

[Hondo]

Div 1 averages 2043 per player per round and is ranked 2761

If you assume Pickles averaged 1400 per round then the rest of us averaged 2086

Had we all averaged 2086 we'd be a lot higher but don't know how much. Surely closer to the top 1000?

[Rik E Boy]

Bye bye Pickles thanks for not doing anything this year other than picking a starting team and messing with Div 1's ranking. Don't think he logged in since March

My brother in law Dale hasn't done much either but he's been overseas for work and play and has at least looked at his side from time to time.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Bye bye Pickles thanks for not doing anything this year other than picking a starting team and messing with Div 1's ranking. Don't think he logged in since March

Hondo, have u looked at where i ranking would be if we had another person instead of Pickles, say averaging the same as 15th placed?

Would we be close to Hogg Premier? Damn pickles!

You''ll be one of us next year anyway CoverKing. Not sure who will be joining you though. Captain Who has firmed but several contenders up for promotion.

regards,

REB

[White Line Fever]

Promotion Race Round 15

Division IV candidates

1 Longwood Lions 38,680
2 Jim's TigerRoos 38,542
3 Loathsome 38,235
4 Delicious 38,106
5 Straycat Strut 37,948
6 Omg I got RKO'd 37,940
7 Stats Enough 37,601
8 wonder elephants 37,535
9 Nutkickers 37,518
10 whufc 37,441
11 cdfcdevils 37,369
12 Killer Wombats! 37,186
13 BloodnTars 36,845
14 Toomenny Beers 36,763
15 Baron Greenbacks 36,548
16 Knuckle Sandwich 35,706

Division V candidates

17 Ankles United 35,475
18 The Goonies 35,419
19 TEAM_FISH 34,734
20 Prestige Worldwide 34,244
21 The Glory Shed 33,274
22 Sean's Knights 33,245
23 Uncle Tin 32,977
24 HorsePlay 32,049
25 Heater's Hotshots 31,895
26 Thiele Crows 30,661
27 Mumma's Boys 29,490
28 Radelaide 28,654
29 Far West 28,315
30 Strawbsberries 28,280
31 TheWorstThereIs 22,015

Ankles a fair way behind Knuckle Sandwich so this looks done and dusted. If the Piglet teams don't accept their promotion then Longwood Lions and Jim's TigerRoos would go into Division III and Ankles and Goonies would go into Division IV.

regards,

REB

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