by Dutchy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:36 pm
by MatteeG » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:06 pm
Dutchy wrote:
Makes you wonder if it is worth volunteering your time when operating in a league like this.
helicopterking wrote:Flaggies will choke. Always have.
by vics01 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:08 pm
by Dutchy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:14 pm
by Straight Line » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:19 pm
by Dutchy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:47 pm
by vics01 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:52 pm
by Dutchy » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:32 pm
by Straight Line » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:12 pm
Dutchy wrote:Would only leave 5 clubs sadly. SFL advise that 9 of the 14 clubs have had to front them over incidents this year.
by vics01 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:35 pm
by afc9798 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:53 am
vics01 wrote:I reckon I might tell my sons and their mates to goto Flaggies. No glass house over there.
No club is immune from stupid parental behaviour.
by WHEELS&DEALS » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:07 am
vics01 wrote:Not always a fan of SFL decisions, however in this case I have to agree. Travelling around mini league games this year with a young son and a mate who umpire I have been appalled by the behaviour of parents, coaches and supporters. Whether we have games for points or not, mini football is about teaching the basics of our great game not thrashing other kids into submission which does nothing to develop the kids who are winning or the kids getting thrashed. It appears that some parents and coaches are living out their failed careers through the kids.
Example: A unnamed club v Hackham few weeks ago. unnamed club 18 players on field Hackham 16 on field. Hackham no score unnamed plenty. Coach rather than teaching structure to unnamed kids was all about kicking as many goals as possible. nearly all kids in forward 50. Maybe if unnamed had handed a few kids over unamed may be better for it by learning about finding a man, having a man behind the ball etc.
Let alone the coach smoking on the bench, parents screaming for more goals free doesn't go their eway umpire is at fault. What parents need to remember is that the umpires are learning the game with very minimal supervision.
Another Unnamed club coach in conversation with junior umpires coach. "we should get all the senior umpires, we should not have kids who don't know what they are doing"
Where does this person think the next generation of umpire will come from?
No club is immune from bad behaviour of parents and officials including mine.
As SFL have said Mini's is supposed to be about fun and learning not winning at all costs.
by shoe boy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:13 am
by Snaparazzi » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:33 am
by Dutchy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:13 am
Snaparazzi wrote:Very disappointing to hear about the cancellation, some good points raised and the right way to handle this is to deal with the clubs/individuals at hand rather than penalize the kids, carnival days are great, minimum 3 games and the kids have a great time, my clubs U/10's have been on the receiving end of some 10+ goal loses recently but the kids are still smiling and enjoying themselves at the end of the game, they love it, win/lose or draw, they are all going to be bitterly disappointed they won't get to play in the carnival and to be honest wouldn't have been going there with a win at all cost attitude, it's not something that is discussed, not sure about other coaches but it's hard enough to get them to focus on a couple basics like manning up etc let alone trying to bring a win at all cost attitude to the table.
Offenders SHould be punished by the clubs either financially (best deterant) as well as suspension from games, take the hard line and I'm certain this will limit incidents rather than pull the carnival in what seems to be a knee jerk reaction.
by Waterboy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:55 am
Dutchy wrote:Snaparazzi wrote:Very disappointing to hear about the cancellation, some good points raised and the right way to handle this is to deal with the clubs/individuals at hand rather than penalize the kids, carnival days are great, minimum 3 games and the kids have a great time, my clubs U/10's have been on the receiving end of some 10+ goal loses recently but the kids are still smiling and enjoying themselves at the end of the game, they love it, win/lose or draw, they are all going to be bitterly disappointed they won't get to play in the carnival and to be honest wouldn't have been going there with a win at all cost attitude, it's not something that is discussed, not sure about other coaches but it's hard enough to get them to focus on a couple basics like manning up etc let alone trying to bring a win at all cost attitude to the table.
Offenders SHould be punished by the clubs either financially (best deterant) as well as suspension from games, take the hard line and I'm certain this will limit incidents rather than pull the carnival in what seems to be a knee jerk reaction.
Well said, the kids love playing in a carnival, its like a footy festival for them. I would be surprised if many clubs go into it with an aim to win the day.
The opposition coaches I have dealt with this season in under 10's have all been great and in the position for the right reasons. I suspect maybe the main problem is parents which is really hard to control unless you have someone in each part of the ground.
For people to say the coaches have a win at all costs attitude is just wrong from what I have experienced.
My lad was shattered last night when I told him.
Do we really think that not having the carnival will hurt the individuals that have transgressed this year? If they act like that Im guessing they wouldnt give a shit.
by afc9798 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:45 am
by tigerpie » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:45 pm
by asert » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:28 pm
by afc9798 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:41 pm
asert wrote:If its an umpiring thing can't we just get each club to supply one adult to umpire and the carnival can still go ahead. Get each umpire to do a neutral game and the kids aren't the ones who suffer. After all they aren't the ones who are the problem
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