Re: Australian International Summer 2020/21
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:35 pm
heater31 wrote:V India at Adelaide Oval 5 or so years ago???
Beat me to it.
heater31 wrote:V India at Adelaide Oval 5 or so years ago???
Trader wrote:I can't stand all this T20 bashing that's going on in this thread!!!
The Bedge wrote:heater31 wrote:V India at Adelaide Oval 5 or so years ago???
Beat me to it.
The Bedge wrote:Trader wrote:I can't stand all this T20 bashing that's going on in this thread!!!
T20 has a place in the game, but Australia have got it wrong IMO. I can't think of any other Nation that has compromised their domestic competition in favor of T20.
India run the IPL at the end of the Ranji Trophy.. Australia plonked BBL smack bang in the middle of summer, and took up most of it.
Dutchy wrote:The Bedge wrote:Trader wrote:I can't stand all this T20 bashing that's going on in this thread!!!
T20 has a place in the game, but Australia have got it wrong IMO. I can't think of any other Nation that has compromised their domestic competition in favor of T20.
India run the IPL at the end of the Ranji Trophy.. Australia plonked BBL smack bang in the middle of summer, and took up most of it.
To be fair, Aussie Rules stuffs up cricket more than anything, BBL is here to stay in its current form, its more likely to expand than contract. They could still play more double headers and fit it into 4-5 weeks from xmas to end of Jan, due to TV you aren't moving it from this period.
Shield cricket should start in early September in the Northern states/WA, play 80% of it before the tests start in mid Nov and finish up in Sydney for the NY's test. Get the test players playing most of the BBL. Feb/March left for international white ball cricket.
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northerner wrote:The Dark Knight wrote:Played 100 tests and has taken more test wickets than anyone since he made his debut in 2011.northerner wrote:Nathan Lyon is the most ordinary average player to have played 100 Tests. Seriously... he has a consistent stock ball, and then...?
So many times we fail to bowl teams out in 4th innings on 5th days. When spinners should be licking their lips, Lyon has nothing to offer.
100 tests and 400 wkts at 31 ave. That pans out to an average of 2 for 62 per innings. Not gunna win many matches with that.
I can completely understand people's frustrations with Lyon and his bowling average and strike rate arent anything super but he's easily the best we got and have had since Stuart MacGill retired and there has been really no other spinner in domestic cricket that's looked like taking his spot as our number 1 spinner.
This summer has been his worst since 14/15.
Looking at his 4th innings bowling, his average, strike rate and RPO are all slightly better than his overall career numbers but has less wickets than in the other 3 innings so I can understand why people question why he can't spin us to victory in the forth innings.
I've just come to really appreciate what Lyon has done for Australia over the last 10 years and accepted that's he's the best we have, whether that be for better or for worse, depending on what side of the fence you sit on.
Great work dk...
Lyon has the worst SR of any in the Top 20.
And the only one in the top 20 with a worse average is Moen Ali who cannot hold a regular spot.
think to me, those figures tell a greater story than he having taken more wkts than any other plater. Simply he has bowled far more than any other player.
Lets take a serious look at Swepson I reckon... opposition know Lyon has no Plan B or C.
MW wrote:For me, the problem with the bowling unit was solely with Starc. He looked distracted, disinterested and bowled pathetically all series.
amber_fluid wrote:MW wrote:For me, the problem with the bowling unit was solely with Starc. He looked distracted, disinterested and bowled pathetically all series.
Starc and Lyon were both poor this series.
Can’t bowl teams out when 2 of your 4 main bowlers are down on form.
amber_fluid wrote:shoe boy wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Lyon just never looks like bowling us to victory.
Great record but he’s no match winner.
I think he only plays now when the pitch suits as he shouldn’t be an automatic inclusion anymore.
I know it is hypothetical but do you believe we would of won if Shane Warne bowled yesterday?
Against any other team I’d say yes but given it was India who play spin well I’m not sure.
Has Lyon ever bowled us to victory on a 4th or 5th day?
Like a 5 fa?
TDK will know.
MW wrote:For me, the problem with the bowling unit was solely with Starc. He looked distracted, disinterested and bowled pathetically all series.
Dinglinga75 wrote:MW wrote:For me, the problem with the bowling unit was solely with Starc. He looked distracted, disinterested and bowled pathetically all series.
Would Starc be the only cricketer in the Australian squad were he isn't the best player in his house
The Bedge wrote:Rams52 wrote:The Bedge wrote:Maybe they could go back to state based T20 comp and play a round of shield, ODD and T20 back to back against opposition.
This is the way to go I feel, although CA will never do it.
Imagine having Shield Mon - Wed.. Friday recover, Saturday night T20 and Sunday ODD - those who don't make the cut for the shorter format are back playing Grade cricket Saturday.
Have a week or so break between rounds and repeat.. 12 rounds over the season culminating in finals at the end.
Grade cricket would be strengthened, families could get along to Saturday night T20's for their fix and those who play community cricket could still get along on a Sunday and enjoy ODD.
I'd also tweak the SS points format - currently weighted towards aggressive cricket and results (which I don't mind), but needs to be an incentive for sides in both innings to gain points, and incentive for batting long periods of time not just scoring heavily.
Corona Man wrote:Understand Tex Walker has tweeted in support of Tim Paine... yep, that’ll help!
amber_fluid wrote:Corona Man wrote:Understand Tex Walker has tweeted in support of Tim Paine... yep, that’ll help!
They should both retire and catch up for a beer!
Corona Man wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Corona Man wrote:Understand Tex Walker has tweeted in support of Tim Paine... yep, that’ll help!
They should both retire and catch up for a beer!
Reckon they’d both fumble and spill it!