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Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:16 pm
by amber_fluid
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
MW wrote:I think its the right way to go
I hear Starc and Hazelwood are in the leadership group also...i hope it wasnt their idea...


I would be dead set flabbergasted if any of the bowlers were involved.


C'mon mate you don't seem the naive type to me.
Of course they were involved, unfortunately!

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:25 pm
by PatowalongaPirate
amber_fluid wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
MW wrote:I think its the right way to go
I hear Starc and Hazelwood are in the leadership group also...i hope it wasnt their idea...


I would be dead set flabbergasted if any of the bowlers were involved.


C'mon mate you don't seem the naive type to me.
Of course they were involved, unfortunately!


I don't see 5 or 6 players having a secret conversation away from the other 5 or 6 players in the same dressing room.

What I do envisage is Smith and Warner having a conversation that Bancroft was in earshot of and became complicit in.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:28 pm
by Grenville
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
Grenville wrote:If players do get suspended and Sayers or anyone else ends up making their debut next Test what a letdown it will be. You bust a gut to earn a spot in the Test team and you are picked largely because some filth has besmirched the game and has been banned. It would be a horrible environment to debut in.


Take your chance however you get it. On face value Bancroft will miss at least the next Test, but i'm not so sure anyone else will. We will have a change of Captain though.


I'm not saying don't play but any potential excitement at making your debut is completely eradicated by the scandal. The damage these blokes have done to the game is potentially catastrophic.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:29 pm
by amber_fluid
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
PatowalongaPirate wrote:
MW wrote:I think its the right way to go
I hear Starc and Hazelwood are in the leadership group also...i hope it wasnt their idea...


I would be dead set flabbergasted if any of the bowlers were involved.


C'mon mate you don't seem the naive type to me.
Of course they were involved, unfortunately!


I don't see 5 or 6 players having a secret conversation away from the other 5 or 6 players in the same dressing room.

What I do envisage is Smith and Warner having a conversation that Bancroft was in earshot of and became complicit in.


I don't believe Smith and what he said at the press conference.
This was discusssed at length with the team(or at least the bowlers) IMO prior to this game.

It's hard too believe anything Smith says now..............

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:34 pm
by Grenville
Interesting watching FoxSports News with Simon Doull mentioning the Poms and South Africans using their zips to rough up the ball. Everyone does it, we have been stupid enough to get caught, and we deserve every bit of punishment coming.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:47 pm
by locky801
Grenville wrote:Interesting watching FoxSports News with Simon Doull mentioning the Poms and South Africans using their zips to rough up the ball. Everyone does it, we have been stupid enough to get caught, and we deserve every bit of punishment coming.


Yes has been going on for decades but somehow this seems a hell of a lot different, not sure if it is because it is Australia involved or not, this seems alot worse

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:54 pm
by amber_fluid
Anyone believe the BS comment from Smith about it being the only time they have done it?
How did they get reverse swing in the first Test??????? Hmmmmmmm

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:06 pm
by whufc
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone believe the BS comment from Smith about it being the only time they have done it?
How did they get reverse swing in the first Test??????? Hmmmmmmm


I actually believe it looking at how bad they tried to attempt it in this test

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:16 pm
by locky801
Didnt take the Barmy Army Long

Steve Smith is an Aussie
He wears a baggy cap
And when he saw some sticky tape
He said I'm having that...
He gave it Cameron Bancroft
Who rubbed it on the ball
Those cheating Aussie convicts
They'll never change at all!

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:22 pm
by amber_fluid
whufc wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone believe the BS comment from Smith about it being the only time they have done it?
How did they get reverse swing in the first Test??????? Hmmmmmmm


I actually believe it looking at how bad they tried to attempt it in this test


I bet the ICC are looking closer at footage now from the first test.

I can't believe they thought they'd get away with it.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:23 pm
by am Bays
locky801 wrote:Didnt take the Barmy Army Long

Steve Smith is an Aussie
He wears a baggy cap
And when he saw some sticky tape
He said I'm having that...
He gave it Cameron Bancroft
Who rubbed it on the ball
Those cheating Aussie convicts
They'll never change at all!


Innovative, not hard to cahnge a few words...

“Mark Waugh is an Aussie
“He wears a baggy cap
“And when he saw the bookie’s cash
“He said ‘Im having that’
“He shared it out with Warnie
“They went and had some beers
“And when the ACB found out
“The covered it up for years.”

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:27 pm
by Sheik Yerbouti
Just don't get it.
At the end of the day, after all the hullabaloo doesn't the team manager, media liaison or even coach have a pow wow about the media post match conference ? Surely the smart thing to do would be to send out Smith & Lehman, tell the press they'll wait for the decision from the match referee, ICC, Cricket Australia or whoever before they comment ? Smith & Bancroft came out as two 8yo school boys busted taking a piss behind the bike shed.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:30 pm
by amber_fluid
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:Just don't get it.
At the end of the day, after all the hullabaloo doesn't the team manager, media liaison or even coach have a pow wow about the media post match conference ? Surely the smart thing to do would be to send out Smith & Lehman, tell the press they'll wait for the decision from the match referee, ICC, Cricket Australia or whoever before they comment ? Smith & Bancroft came out as two 8yo school boys busted taking a piss behind the bike shed.


Agree.
Whether Lehman was involved or not he should of fronted the media as well.

Why the delay in the media conference?
Collaborating stories perhaps?

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:32 pm
by whufc
amber_fluid wrote:
whufc wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Anyone believe the BS comment from Smith about it being the only time they have done it?
How did they get reverse swing in the first Test??????? Hmmmmmmm


I actually believe it looking at how bad they tried to attempt it in this test


I bet the ICC are looking closer at footage now from the first test.

I can't believe they thought they'd get away with it.


Just like Lyon dropping the ball on AB who is now batting brilliantly this Aussie side is just plain 'dumb and stupid'

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:09 pm
by carey
You forgot arrogant, pig headed flat track bully hypocrites.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:43 pm
by Grenville
carey wrote:You forgot arrogant, pig headed flat track bully hypocrites.


The fact that we're having terms used about us (correctly) that we previously reserved for the South Africans gives one a fair idea how low we've sunk.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:48 pm
by Corona Man
Grenville wrote:
carey wrote:You forgot arrogant, pig headed flat track bully hypocrites.


The fact that we're having terms used about us (correctly) that we previously reserved for the South Africans gives one a fair idea how low we've sunk.

I’ve dealt with my share of South Africans over the years in business and generally they are arrogant pigs... boots on the other foot now.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:05 pm
by DoublebluTiger
The Pom and Kiwi radio commentators at the England v NZ test match sinking the boot into us with regularity, with glee and with justification.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:13 pm
by Booney
Smith dropping the leadership group in it. Nice way to drag everyone down with you. You ARE the leader.

Re: Australian Tour of South Africa

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:43 pm
by whufc
Just tried to watch the pre game show but couldn't do it!!

Happy to take our wack for what we did but listening to South African commentators dig the knife in is hard. There captain has been twice for tampering and they were the country who produced Hansie Cronje

Think I might watch the Aussie rules instead